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Kia Sedona

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  • Even though I have only heard that the new Sedona will offer seating for seven, I would be really happy if the 2006 Sedona offered seating for eight like the Odyssey and the Sienna. Looking at the 11 seat Carnival, I can see how they could achieve that by eliminating the third row of seats in the Carnival.The other thing that I am hoping for is 27 Hwy MPG or better. Other than seating and gas mileage, the 2006 Sedona looks like a possibility for me in the future.
  • quigquig Posts: 16
    Called dealership 9-23-05 they don't even know so they said.
  • Hi there. This is my first post here, but I have been checking in every now and then, looking for new info on the 2006 Sedona. We own a 2002 Sedona Ex and have been eagerly awaiting the 2006 (mostly for the fold in floor third row). Way back in the early pages of this forum there was a link to kiamedia.com. It said " To log in there, you are supposed to be a 'journalist.' Turns out the ID is kiamedia and password is optima." I have been checking there occasionally for new info on the 06. Today I discovered that they have added to the specs and now have a features and options section on the 06.

    Though the EPA gas milage isn't as good as I had hoped (17 city/25 hwy/20 combined), everything else looks promising to me. I did not, however, see anything mentioned about a NAV system, which I know many of you would like. I also didn't see any mention of two-tone paint on the EX (which I would like).

    Just thought some of you might like to take a look. Sorry if this has already been posted.
  • Thanks for the kiamedia info. Very interesting.

    Regarding the EPA estimates, it wouldn't surprise me if the actual mileage for highway driving turns out to be a bit higher. That seems to be a pattern for Kias, if I remember correctly.
  • I went back and looked at the Kia media website after huffkiamom's post (#309). I note that it lists "Split-double folding, removable third row" rather than the fold-into-the-floor third row seat that the Sedona model had at the Chicago auto show, and which the published pictures show. Now I know that the Dodge Caravan short wheel base does not have a foldable third row seat, but the first Sedona on the market is supposed to be a long wheel base with the short wheel base to follow. But according to odysomeday (#296) the 11 passenger Grand Carnival/Sedona will be available mid-year 2006 per Kia customer service. Pretty obviously, the short wheelbase is not going to be the 11 seater--the two concepts don't go together. But Paul Butterfield, in a September 22, 2005 news conference said that the long wheel base will be at the dealers in the first quarter of 2006 with the short wheel base to follow later in the year. Meanwhile, at the unveiling of the Grand Carnival in Korea, the press was being told that it would be exported in September of this year. :sick:

    So, is the seven seater the short or long wheelbase? Will the short wheelbase only have a removable third row seat? Will we get the 11 seater? Is that the long wheel base? Which is coming out first? Etc, Etc.

    By the way, if you haven't looked at the website listed by odysomeday in #296, you should. It shows the Grand Carnival. For someone who likes to get his cars pretty fully loaded (since I will keep them for a while and I want to enjoy them), I can only hope that they sell a Sedona in the US that has all of the goodies available on that Grand Carnival. That is one fancy minivan.

    Anybody have any insight into the long wheelbase/short wheelbase, 11 seater/seven seater, which comes first confusion?
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    Isn't is possible that the long and short wheelbase versions of the 2006 Sedona both will have 7-person capacity?

    If Kia introduced a version of its 2006 Sedona that was not available with a foldaway 3rd row seat, they would be nuts. I think all manufacturers know better than that nowadays. That feature is fast-becoming a necessity in the minds of many/most new minivan buyers these days. I haven't been following the press releases and other web info, but I would expect short and long wheelbase models to have the 3rd row foldaway available, if not standard.
  • navyairnavyair Posts: 202
    BD,

    Concur, but then all auto manufacturers still introduce cars with only one sunvisor per side and the Ford style with two each has been out for how many years? Ditto the nav system.

    Amazing that they would offer a system like power doors and lift gate (nightmares as they age) but no nav system as options.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Get a Garmin. We love ours. Use it in all 3 cars, too.

    -juice
  • I agree about the foldaway third row seat being a necessity and a given. But, as I say, when last I checked, the short wheel base Caravan did not have a foldable third row seat (apparently there is no place to fold it down into). So might the short wheelbase Sedona (based on the quoted language from the Kia media website) be the same way?

    If the Sedona at the Chicago auto show was one of the long wheelbase models(foldable third row seat), are you thinking that they will just shoe horn in a fourth row of seats in that same wheelbase?

    In regard to the nav system, it would seem like it would be available at some point since the Grand Carnival has such a system (including back up cameras like the fully equipped Ody), and we are supposed to get the Grand Carnival (as a Sedona Limited, perhaps?) sometime in 2006, according to a prior post.

    Finally, if you go to http://grandcarnival.kia.co.kr/showroom/grandcarnival.html and leave off the "showroom/grandcarnival.html" part, it shows a "video" of the various configurations of the 11 seat model (although it goes so fast it is hard to keep up), and it appears that maybe the fourth row can be taken out and the second and third row can then be moved back on tracks and the third row folded into the floor.

    I wish Kia would get on with it and give us the information on all of the models and configurations planned.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I'd be interested in the possibility of an 11 seater, even if that means its a little cramped back there.

    I could be expecting a sudden surge of relatives in the next 2 years...

    Which means I'll need another minivan. 11 seats would be nice. Sort of a just in case thing.

    I have my eyes on an Odyssey EX-L though. But the Sedona is very compelling. Lower price. Longer warranty. Most of the features.

    Gimme eleven seats, a NAV systen, and parking sonars, and I'm sold. :D
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    this guy seems to love the Sedona.

    And he does have a point. Why dump $36,000 on an Odyssey EX-L RES-NAV or Sienna XLE when a Sedona EX may do the same thing for $28,000? (minus the NAV of course)

    I'll wait and see though. The Odyssey is still first on my list because of 28 MPG and available Navigation.
  • artgpoartgpo Posts: 483
    I had planned on waiting for the 2006 Sedona to arrive. My choices were between the Sienna, Odyssey and new Sedona. In April, 2005 we bought a new Sportage. The Sportage has been wonderful although subject to two recalls in the first month. My main concern is the depreciation factor for the Sedona and the not so good frequency of repair on earlier models as reported by Consumer Reports. I am quite certain the new Sendona is going to be very real competiton for the Honda and Toyota because the cost will be much less. All that said, on Monday I purchased a 2006 Odyssey EX-L. I feel the Honda quality, value and excellent resale will make my decision as good one down the road.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,447
    What is the latest on when the Sedona will be available. It looks like I may need to purchase fairly soon and would like to look at one.
  • The news stories when the Sedona was first shown indicated that the exports would start in September. However, now all indications say more like January, 2006. From what I've been able to read, it seems that the delay may be due to strikes by the Hyundai and Kia labor unions causing production delays. They apparently are behind in meeting domestic purchases, much less building enough to begin supplying dealers in Europe and the U. S.
  • dm3dm3 Posts: 25
    I'd also bother to take a look at a Dodge Grand Caravan SXT or Town and Country touring. They drive very well, you might be surprised. Odysseys high mileage rating is hype. Real world folks don't get anywhere near that.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I'm keeping all options open.

    Won't be buying for a while though. Just getting a jump start on research.
  • We have the 2003 Kia Sedona and LOVE IT!! We love all the nooks & crannys for storage .. I LOVE the map bin (If it could be a little deeper that would be nice) .. And all those cup holders wow .. Plus the fact that they hold the larger cups is really nice (the reason we passed on other models)

    Some changes & additions would make it even better .. My husband finds it rather cramped in the driver's seat .. I doesn't go back far enough for his long legs .. Having windows that open in the mid section would be great .. The idea of in vehicle storage for seats is wonderful .. One last thing I'd love to see on the Sedona is On*Star .. All vehicles should come with that safety feature .. We live in the mountains of Virginia and on icey/snowy days it would certainly give one peace of mind as you're traveling thru the mountains!
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    My main concerns are gas mileage and price.

    If its low enough, I could buy a nice Honda Civic or Hyundai Sonata with the savings.

    On the otherhand, I have lukewarm feelings about my Odyssey. New tranny at 70K miles? Not exactly comforting.

    Although that's still not as much as some people face with their cars.
  • artgpoartgpo Posts: 483
    The EPA rates the 2006 Kia Sedona at 17 city/25 highway.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    good info, thanks. That's a big improvement versus the '02-'05 Sedona, which is impressive considering the '06 has a much bigger, much more powerful engine. But once again, Kia is 'catching up' to the acceptable range of other minivans, but they are a bit late. 17/25 is just fine, but other vans were doing that 3-5 years ago. I'm sure the other companies' new minivan models will best those numbers. The '05 Ody already does, and I think the current-generation Sienna does too.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    OnStar is a great idea and a nice safety feature. We could have gotten it when we were picking out a Chevy Malibu Maxx last fall, but decided it was not a crucial item. 17 bucks a month for the service is ridiculous, in my opinion.
  • artgpoartgpo Posts: 483
    $17 a month for peace of mind plus a reduction in your insurance. OnStar has the ability to locate a missing or stolen vehicle. Knowing I will automatically get help in a crash is worth how much?
  • artgpoartgpo Posts: 483
    17/25 is weak. My 2006 Odyssey is rated 20/28. The engine being used in the new Sedona is once of the largest for a minivan.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Are Ody's actually getting that in the real world, though? Early on I heard they weren't.

    Considering the old one was 15/20 IIRC, this is a big improvement. And if it can manage those numbers in the real world, I think it'll do fine.

    -juice
  • artgpoartgpo Posts: 483
    So far for the first 900 miles I am averaging about 21 mpg in mixed driving with my Odyssey.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    AN just released a breaking news story - they say the Hyundai van is back on. That means we might see an Entourage after all.

    artgpo: 21mpg aint' bad, but it's not up to EPA estimates. Then again, what car is, right?

    -juice
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    not bad, but not great.

    Add nav to the Entourage, and the deal could be sealed.

    That Sienna XLE Limited sure looks appealing though...

    My 2002 Odyssey can sometimes go above EPA estimates, but right now its facing some issues. (see the Odyssey Problems board)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Especially with AWD, it's my favorite van. But add leather, DVD, Nav, and a few other options and the price gets downright scary. Loaded ones can hit $42k.

    If Hyundai can deliver that for an MSRP under $30k, and a real-world price still close to $5 grand lower, I'd be impressed.

    $5 grand buys you a lot of gas.

    -juice
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    the Sienna Limited just feels like a Lexus.

    If Hyundai can emulate the Sienna Limited in an Entourage Limited, and price it to move at $30K (or even $33,500) I'll be seriously interested.
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