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Kia Sedona

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  • I took my 2006 Sedona on a week holiday to Virginia Beach putting 2500 miles on the odometer. Here are a few impressions. First the odometer is wildly optomistic out by almost 10 percent verified by gps and construction radar. I will be speaking to Kia to find the tolerence on the speedometer. We were loaded (and I mean loaded, 3 adults and 2 kids with all our camping gear and the van had power to spare (two large containers on the roof). The rear suspension was low, the trailer hitch bottomed out too many times for comfort (no trailer just the internal load). Fuel ecomomy was better than my 2002 Olds minivan but that minivan was a pig. I will give the numbers once I sit down and do the math. The seats and driving was comfortable, the air worked well in 101 degree heat. I will look into changing the rear shocks to air shocks. I have 4000 KM on the van and so far other than the speedometer out by 10 percent I am very pleased with the Sedona.
  • I am getting ready to buy a minivan and would like input regarding these two vans. The Grand Caravan SE and the Sedona LX. I have test driven both and here are my impressions of each.

    Exterior:
    Grand Caravan is better looking but it still looks like the 1996 that my parents have. I like the greenhouse better but the head and tail lights are not to my liking. And why does Dodge have to use black fascias on all the base models of their vehicles? Sedona looks they aped the look of the Sienna and threw in an Odyssey front end. Not as smooth as Caravan but tasteful and elegant and less common on the road. Also, sliding door tracks are not tucked away like on Caravan.

    Interior:
    No contest Sedona is much better and feature filled compared to the Caravan. Caravan dash looks ugly, MUCH worser than the 1996 model. Has black treatments and black solid lightweight(ie. cheap) buttons. Kind of feels like a rental car not a 2006 vehicle. Sedona dash looks and feels more upscale. Armrests on Caravan are stiff and uncomfortable. Seating comfort also goes to Sedona. I do not want the Stow&Go on the Caravan as the rear buckets on those models feel like they were designed for midgets. Third-row in Caravan feels thinly padded and storage compartments feel cheaper than 1996 model. 3rd row legroom seems a bit tight in both models but fine for my purposes. Stereo systems about equal quality. 3-zone AC standard on Sedona have to pay $2000 extra for package that includes p/w, p/l, and some other things on GC. I like the column shifter on the Caravan better but Sedona has Sportmatic feature.

    Powertrain:
    Sedona also takes this one. Caravan feels taxed when accelerating into interstate until transmission shifts. Sedona is smoother and much more powerful. And it is a DOHC unit vs the GC's pushrod V-6. Also has extra gear on transmission. Fuel economy is 19/26 on Caravan vs 18/25 for Sedona. I'll take the tradeoff of 1mpg for 64 more hp.

    Safety:
    No firsthand experience here thankfully. Sedona has everything standard. GC has curtain airbags optional but no VSC or TPMS. Can get TPMS by upgrading to SXT model but then I get stuck with Stow&Go. Another one for the Sedona.

    Price:
    Did not start negotiations yet at any dealer. GC stickers at 27,735. There is currently a 4000 rebate bringing the price down to 23,735. Sedona Sticker of 24,865 with the DVD package. Dealers here try to add 1,495 for an environmental protection package which is really a ripoff fee. After telling me it was required, salesperson decided to change his mind after I objected to it strongly. There is currently a 1500 rebate and I can get an additional 400 for the college grad rebate. Total MSRP before negotiations is $22,295. I figure that Dodge dealers will be willing to budge a bit more on the price of the GC. Hopefully there will be employee sales soon.

    My Conclusion:
    I can't believe I'm saying this but I would much rather have a Kia over the Caravan. I tried so much to like the Dodge as my family has owned 2 Caravans but it seems to be outclassed by newer competition. It's time for Dodge to redesign these to keep up.

    Has anybody else compared these two vans. I would like to compare notes and thoughts with anybody else.
  • b9driverb9driver Posts: 118
    Has anybody else compared these two vans. I would like to compare notes and thoughts with anybody else. >>>>

    There is no comparison. Kia mostly targeted the Sienna and Honda minivans for the Sedona, not the terrible Chrysler vans which continue to trail in almost every area. I still think the AWD Sienna is probably the best van as it's AWD, BUT after that the Sedona is actually nicer than the other entries including the Honda. Forget the Caravan.
    BTW, Kia chose to only make the 3rd row stowable so they'd have better 2nd row seats than the Caravan...which they do. Not only that but the 13 speaker infinity DVD stereo system in the Sedona EX is not only better than the Caravan's, it's perhaps one of the best on the market for stock systems.
    Power wise the Sedona is the class leader and then there's the warranty.
    The ONLY thing to worry about is how often the Sedona will require service...to many visits can be a hassle time-wise. Only time will tell.
    Thus far our loaded Kia EX impresses everyone...it's even nicer than our Subaru Tribeca (also a nice ride) and feels every bit as upscale as the Lexus GS330. The 7.1 surround sound DVD system is amazing, the ride is quiet, handling surprisingly tight...and I we don't hear a single rattle!
    This is my list of BEST MINIVANS..based on driving them, sitting in them and so on....

    Toyota Sienna AWD
    Kia Sedonna EX
    Honda Odyssey (also great when loaded!)

    After these come the US built models which are pretty awful. My father owned 2 Chrysler minivans and they showed awful quality issues. He finally got the message and bought a Subaru...can't wait for their minivan!
    In short....don't get a Caravan.

    Good luck,

    Capt RB
    2006 Sedona
  • dc_driverdc_driver Posts: 712
    I think your impressions of the two minivans echo my feelings as well. Our turnoffs of the DCX vans were:
    - Dashboard layout
    - Overall fit and finish
    - Stow&Go seats uncomfortable
    - Average safety ratings
    - Lack of stability control
    - "Old school" engine and 4 speed transmission
    - Not as powerful as competitors
    - Questionable reliability
    - Questionable resale
    - Warranty not as long as competitors (Honda, Toyota, Kia)

    That said, here are some advantages:
    - Price. In my area you can get a completely loaded GC SXT with leather, heated seats, power doors and liftgate, sunroof, DVD player, etc for $24K
    - The Kia's second row seats do not slide sideways
    - Larger dealer network for service/warranty issues

    Like the DCX vans, the Kia also has questionable reliability and resale (verdict is obviously still out on the 06, but the previous generation Sedona had poor reliability according to CR). Obviously the new generation of Kia vans is superior to the previous generation but Kia needs to continue to build on their reliability.

    Overall, I would probably go with the Kia. The safety features and just overall engineering and fit and finish are huge factors.
  • sookyassookyas Posts: 2
    After a couple of Kia tests drives I noticed a few items. I was wondering if anyone had noticed the following:

    1. The passenger side, middle-row captain chair has a big protruding dimple, right in the middle of the cloth seat. It's only on that seat and I have seen it on three Sedona '06 vans of various trim levels, at different dealerships. Has anyone seen this as well? There is not damage to the cloth, it just stick up for some reason! It's pretty hard to miss.

    2. I also noticed wind noise on the passenger side front door at highway speeds. I opened and closed the door and window just to make sure but it was still there.

    3. The A/C did not seem to cool as well as some other vans I had test driven. It was a pretty hot day but I just wanted to check if anyone was not happy with their A/C.

    Besides those questions, I am sold on the van. Would like to get the EX with power options package in a couple of weeks.
  • b9driverb9driver Posts: 118
    Hi there, fit and finsih appears to be very good to excellentm but I do think Honda and Toyota maintain an edge.
    I have a loaded EX with leather and the four two front and middle seats all appear about the same, except that the 2nd row does not have the same drop and lock armrest feature for the armrests.
    I have not noticed more wind noise on the starboard side of the van and can't see how that could occur. Noise is very well handled in the Sedona...perhaps class leading.
    The A/C works very well, but remember that the volume of this van takes time to cool down. By turning on the rear vents and winging out the 3rd row windows things cool down pretty quickly. I have yet to see what happens on a 100 degree day with four people aboard.

    Capt RB
    2006 Sedona
    NY
  • cpsdarrencpsdarren Posts: 265
    Could an owner please verify some information for me?

    I would like to know exactly which seating positions in the 2006 Sedona have LATCH (lower anchors). Also, if any positions have a top tether anchor but not the lower anchors, I would like to know those as well.

    Thank you!
  • sookyassookyas Posts: 2
    Thanks for your feedback. I am going to test drive a Sedona once more before I buy and will check the A/C and windnoise - it might have been an issue only with the Demo that we took out on that day.
  • All five rear positions have the latch system, and all have the top tether.
  • srubiosrubio Posts: 6
    Hi my name is Steve Rubio I am a Kia Salesman, the answer to your question is the 2nd and 3rd row seating positions have the LATCH (Lower Anchors and Tethers for Children) on all 5 seating positions not to mention that all seating positions have a 3-point seatbelt for the safety of all passengers. All of the LATCH's have 3 points to connect a child seat on them. I hope that answered your question.

    Steve Rubio
    Sales Consultant
    Briggs Kia
    Topeka, KS
  • Bluedevils,
    My '02 Sedona has a gas cap holder. The difference in that area was that on the '03 they put in the cable release locking gas door access.
  • Hi,

    Cna you tell me the location of the filter on the sedona 2006?

    Thnaks in advance.
  • srubiosrubio Posts: 6
    Right under the dust cover on the engine on the right side it says "Oil Filter".

    Steve Rubio
    Sales Consultant
    Briggs Kia
    Topeka, KS
  • Any news on the SWB version of the Sedona. It was suppose to be available in the spring 06, so where is it???

    http://www.kia.co.uk/sedonahome.asp

    UK version is now being advertised, where is the NA version??

    Thanks
  • kiaraykiaray Posts: 3
    Bought my 2006 Sedona EX on 27 Feb. Have 4000 miles on it and am very pleased. Everything that I hoped it would be to this point. Been a mini van owner since 87 when I bought a new Plymouth Grand Voyager. Traded it in 96 on a new Dodge Grand Caravan. Had a lot of problems with the Plymouth, not so many with the Dodge. Decided to go with Kia this time around because of all of the Sedona's standard safety features, the ride, the power, and the looks. I live in Oklahoma City and in the 3 + months I've had my Sedona I've only saw one other 2006 on the road. That included a six day visit to San Diego where I didn't see any. Not sure why given the great value. Suspect that many are still leary of the Kia brand, but also suspect that will change. Queried my dealer and he said they had sold several but they were selling mostly the remaining 2005s because they were a steal. My only complaint with my Sedona is the sucky standard sound system. Will switch the deck out, along with speakers, as soon as the wiring harness makers start producing the required interface cables.
  • redptcredptc Posts: 78
    ANYONE KNOW HOW TO PROGRAM THE 2006 SEDONAS KEYLESS REMOTE?DEALER WANTS $40.00 TO DO IT . :)
  • b9driverb9driver Posts: 118
    After a 3000 miles trip, our Sedona is working flawlessly. No rattles, buzzes or other signs of problems. Power is really nice. MPG averaged on a drive from NYC to North Carolina was 23.1 MPG with 4 people and luggage. Driving throught heavy rain and high winds at typical speeds (75-85 MPH), the van never felt unstable. Noise levels are quite low. So far this continues to be the mini van to beat. The only real issue is that a loaded one is really not all that cheap anymore...but hey, that sound system with DVD 7.1 surround sound is one of th best stock systems on the market. Add Sirius radio and a Garmin C340 GPS and you'll be all set! BTW, the Garmin is better than ANY factory installed unit I've tried and can be used in more than one car.

    Capt RB
    NY
  • garandmangarandman Posts: 524
    I'm interested as well. We have a 99 Caravan and the only short replacements are another Caravan or an 06 MPV, which seems to be a dead product line.
  • navyairnavyair Posts: 202
    BD-

    How is the 2002 holding up? Are you looking at the 2006's or waiting awhile longer. We just passed 61k on our 2003, but the wife is looking longingly.

    Probably will wait until 2007 and my post-military future is known.
  • priscaprisca Posts: 1
    I am looking to buy a Kia Sedona 2006 in a month or so and I was wondering what price I should pay for an EX model (invoice price). A manager offered me an internet special price of $21,499.00 plus tax, tags and processing. Is this a good offer?

    What options are availabe for this model at what price?

    Patricia
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