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Lincoln Zephyr/MKZ



  • What they will have though is a very unintegrated line-up without the "brand look" that Audi, Cadillac, BMW, Volvo, Mercedes, Pontiac, etc. can seem to impart even when dealing with a modle mix including sedans, 2 seaters, SUVs, trucks.I know Ford can do better than this, because they have.

    Too true. Somewhere in these threads someone mentioned Lincoln's intent with the alphabet soup designation is to get people to say "Lincoln XYZ" or "Lincoln ABC" instead of just saying "Town Car" or "Continental" so as to emphasize the "Lincoln" awareness. They could go a long way to that if they could find and stay with a brand look. Now, however, cars will see a waterfall grill while their trucks will see an egg crate grill. One or the other, please.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    The current automatic transmission, from a Toyota affiliate, will no longer be used. Rather, a GM/Ford Joint Venture Six Speed will be. . .
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,666
    In addition to the drivetrain and cosmetic changes you'll get an external audio port and a sportier suspension. I think the wheels are also different but you'd have to look close to notice.
  • bigtbigt Posts: 412
    Here is the article about the new interior but I cannot say for certain what they are going to be tweaking.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    "They sound ok by themselves but when you put them all together and say MKZ, MKX, MKS then they quickly start to run together."

    I completely agree - and feel the same about Cadillac. Too hard to learn the code.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,415
    Agreed. But at least Cadillac has some rhyme or reason to it: CTS, DTS, STS which mimics in a way Mercedes' C Class, E Class, and S Class (proceeding up the scale in cost, if not necessarily in size).

    The Mercedes C Class actually used to be a "C" class automobile, although it is bigger than that now. Cadillac names its trucks, and give a different letter scheme for its current and pproposed crossovers. The roadster also gets its own. I still prefer names, but I can live with it.

    Lincoln on the other hand calls their smallest car a Z, their soon-to-be-largest sedan an S, the crossover an X (which falls between S and Z), and then spells out MK as Mark for the truck. They seem poised like Cadillac to keep names for their full-size SUVs. It will be interesting to see what they call the Fairlane clone they should be getting in a year or so.
  • bigtbigt Posts: 412
    I do not like the new naming schemes. I prefer a car to have its own name/personality.
  • scootertrashscootertrash Posts: 698
    Maybe they can have a tie-in with McDonalds and call it the MKVAN
  • bigtbigt Posts: 412
    Any ideal when this would be an option?
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    MK-Van.... Oh my, Scooter, you just hit on something that had eluded even my superior intelligence - the Mc factor in their scheme! This is worse than the Ford Detour (Contour) and the Mercury Mistake (Mystique).......

    The McLT, the McS, McZ, McZ.....and yes, it all makes no friggen sense. Volvo has C for coupe, S for Sedan, V for Wagons, XC for the SUV, that one I don't exactly get. I disagree that Cadillac has a lot of continuity in their alpha-names, but Lincolns porport to be the worst.
  • scootertrashscootertrash Posts: 698
    Even a broken clock is right twice a day!

    Yes, I'm a little surprised it took so long so make that simple but brilliant, Rainman-like observation.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,415
    I didn't say (or mean) Cadillac's scheme has a lot of continuity. I can just see some.

    BTW, XC is shorthand for Cross Country (like MK is purported to be for "Mark"...which I still don't see).
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,415
    And that raises another question:
    who is or was Mark and why is Lincoln insisting on naming all their vehicles after him? ;)
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    "They would be looking good right now if they had brought the AWD NaviCross to market. With styling that sells now (a la Chrysler 300) yet with Lincoln look and heritage, giving those who want to move back to a sedan from an SUV a unique choice. Oh well."

    That's funny - you just described me to a tee. I've been in Lincolns since 1990. First Sedans, then the Navigators, now I wanted to go back to a sedan, but not the Town Car.... The Navicross would have been perfect for me - and alas, it's not built. Neither is the new Continental concept built. Neither was the Mark 9 concept built. What does Lincoln have for a guy like me? A compact, baby, underpowered close of a Fusion...... And that's not gonna do it for me. So, I had to leave. I still have a soft spot in my heart for Lincoln, and would love to own another one, but it has to be special. It's gotta have WoW factor, and presence (that's SIZE) to get me.
  • scootertrashscootertrash Posts: 698
    "Mark-Z" sounds like a former member of Menudo or someone on the cover of Tiger Beat.
  • I was just at the Lincoln Dealer and he quoted my 3.9% financing for 5 years and $1000 cash bonus incentive. I don't think they have the 0% for five years incentive on this car anymore. And the warranty of 6 years was for 07 models only, at least according to the salesman.

    Now If I could of bought this car 1 month ago for 0% financing (same model year) why would I agree to pay 3.9% now?
  • scootertrashscootertrash Posts: 698
    You should never depend on a car salesman to give you accurate information about anything. That's why you have this machine (a computer) in front of you. Click on that Lincoln ad on the left side of this page. You are in charge of knowing the facts before you get to the dealership.
  • caliddcalidd Posts: 60
    I think the 0% financing is still available but for 3 years, not 5. tells you.
  • buckwheatbuckwheat Posts: 396
    The new engine, which the 1,000-employee factory started producing a month ago;

    Notice the large "Z" in the MKZ on the drivers door..
  • pnewbypnewby Posts: 277
    If memory serves me, (and it probably doesn't), Mark was the very helpful transmission engineer that helped develop the tranny for the '00 LS. That was in the good old days when Lincoln actually was getting everything right and gaining market share and outselling Caddy. Between Mark, Jim Rogers and other Lincoln execs and engineers, we could actually get answers to our questions and make suggestions that were listened to.
    PS- Mark is mkovalsk on these boards, and is still active in several Lincoln discusions.
    Ahhhhh- the good old days (early Y2K) :surprise:
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