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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,286
    Hyundai Genesis, Caddy XLR. New to me anyway

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Turns out my friend got an LX with steelies. Even the base model has a backup cam, though. She loves it so far.

    Driving home late last night near Point of Rocks MD there was a new Genesis with LED lights that blasted by me at a pretty nice clip.
  • Visited the folks in MA over the weekend and did a little last minute shopping. Much to my surprise, the Mall I visited had a Tesla store! Seriously, they had the new Sedan (forgot the name) in the middle (fully open for sitting, poking, proding, etc) and on the walls around it, all the options, color and fabric swatches, Tesla logo garb, and a few "Build our own" areas. Oh, and a platform from which the car rides on also on display.

    As far as the car goes, it looks incredible on the outside, the inside is really cool with a full digital dash and an IP that basically looks like an oversized Ipad. The seats looked way out of place tho, too short on the bottom and not a lot of bolstering. Also, there is no center console, so the the layout reminded me of a 70's car. Back seat was pretty spacious and visibility was pretty good.

    From the reports I have read about Tesla not doing so hot financially, it must be pretty risky to try and market your product in a mall, but the foot traffic that was coming in and out of the place the day I was there, I predict not many folks know or even care about Tesla's fortunes. The place was a zoo. :shades:
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,902
    Sounds like you were over at the Natick Collection.

    Telsa is located in the mall because they are trying to get around the dealership laws in MA. They can't sell the cars in MA from that location. It is strictly a showroom experience - you have to order it directly from Tesla in California.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,962
    My local mall has a Tesla dealer too. It's fairly cool, for being in a mall and all.
  • odie6lodie6l Hershey, PaPosts: 1,078
    sounds almost like the scene in "The Blues Brothers" where they are driving through the mall and keep passing the auto showroom.

    Odie
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,962
    "The new Oldsmobiles are in early this year" :shades:

    Speaking of new cars, have seen sweetheart lease commercials for G25x and G37 journey/awd and premium - $249 and $299 respectively ($329 for coupe). Blowout time has arrived.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    There's a Fisker Karma inside Montgomery Mall in Potomac, MD.

    Just a static display, though, and the car was filthy with dust last time I saw it.

    Considering it's one of the few that didn't catch on fire during Sandy they should be taking better care of it. :D
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    G25 must be a left over 2012 model, in late December? Wow.

    For 2013 the 3.7l is the only engine in there.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Altima driving on Canal Rd.

    Escape in the garage downstairs. I'll try to find out who owns it.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,962
    Shows how well the model went over.

    There's a Fisker dealer in my neighborhood - I suspect they drive around a lot just to get attention, as I see a couple of what I think are the same cars frequently.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    On video, at least:

    http://youtu.be/pvvXTwaY8Q4

    AWD now, interesting. Probably to prevent customers from leaving for Audi, and for better 0-60 launches, since Americans care so much about those numbers.

    Sounds is ... dunno, it's deep but brat-tat-tatty, hard to tune a DI engine for the same sounds the normally aspirated bigger mills from AMGs past.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,962
    E63, not C63 :P ...I was thinking I hadn't heard of a C63 4Matic, but I had read about this. New model for the facelift, too. I don't know which Audi it would compete with, RS6? Oh yeah, we don't get that. S6 is much less powerful.

    It does sound like a C63, kind of - somewhat harsh. But harshness is part of the attraction of the smaller car.

    There was a 210 E55 4Matic wagon, but not for the USA.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Good camo! ;)

    Just kidding it was my typo.

    Casaba compares to the M5 and S6 but neither is a direct match.

    What do you think? Down the road, would you want an AWD model?

    I would. Get the power down, plus launch must be amazing.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,962
    Yes, I would take AWD, even though with looming gas price increases, this tuned V8 will probably be my last, save for any lottery winnings. AWD would give a good launch, and in this area, would help on wet roads - the nannies can only do so much. Even my old E55 can get a bit squirrely if you push it around.

    M5 is closest - we don't get the RS6 anymore, although I am pretty sure it still exists in Europe.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I'd love an RS6 Avant.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,962
    Better start looking for a job in Europe :shades:

    Although in the US now, MB offers the E63 AMG wagon with the performance/development package, which is pretty hot.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Are they soldin Portugal? I'm fluent...
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,847
    The G37 is a 24 month lease with $3700 due at signing.... so, real price is more like $420/mo... Not bad for a 24-month lease, but they've had leases in that price range for a long time...

    The best deal I've seen lately is a 36 month lease on an Acura TSX wagon for $299/mo... ZERO due at signing...

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    3600 times 3, that's $10800 over 3 years. Real depreciation is more like $15k before we factor interest.

    Bargain.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,962
    I don't know, but I bet you could buy one in developed Europe ( :shades: ), and import it there easy enough. Probably some affordable property in Portugal too, but maybe not a good place for job opportunity.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,962
    The local ad claims $2999 initial payment - is that not including the "acquisition fee"? I also notice the AWD model costs no more. I think by 2010-11 or so, the model was just getting old, so deals had to be made.

    That TSX would be a steal. Back in 07 when the W203 C-class was being phased out, I remember a ~$269 lease on those - but I don't remember the terms.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Kia appoints ex-Audi designer Schreyer first non-Korean president

    Read more: http://www.autonews.com/article/20121228/OEM02/312289854#ixzz2GN1Tbz9S

    VWAG should never have let him go...
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,962
    I wonder how many axles were on the truck full of money they parked in his driveway to get him to defect :shades:

    He needs to help Hyundai now - if there's a brand out there that needs some design stability, it's that one.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Autoblog said Hyundai-Kia, but Automotive News says he's Kia President, and I trust the latter more. I've corrrect the post title.

    They let him remain based in Frankfurt, so I'm sure that helped lure him.

    He penned the New Beetle, which woke up VW, and also worked on the Audi TT, which sort of began Audi's renaissance.

    Kia went from snooze to probably the best styled mainstream brand under his watch.

    I still want to see a production version of KV7 concept.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,962
    Yeah, it is only Kia. He's probably able to assemble a more experienced staff in Europe, too.

    The most remarkable part to me is how quickly things turned around. Not that long ago, Kia had arguably the dumpiest lineup on the market.

    KV7 would need to be an autonomous car.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    In one generation the Optima went from frumpy also ran to trend setter.

    Rio used to be a cheap econobox and looks decent now (for what it is), even got DI standard in that price range, which is unheard of.

    I want to see the KV7 because the Sienna suffered cost cutting and the Ody is just strange now. The Quest is too bolt upright, and the Grand Caravan dates back to 2008 - the old Chrysler.

    If my van were totalled, I wouldn't know what to get!
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,902
    Why would they put a designer/stylist in charge of a brand???
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,962
    The Optima was the "mediocrity" in those TV commercials. And we can't forget the Amanti, no matter how hard we try. Move away from KDM styling at all costs.

    Was KV7 supposed to be the same size as a big American style van? No appealing choices there indeed. Would probably look most at an Odyssey I guess, Caravan is ancient, Quest is hideous, Sienna is apparently big and cheap.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Subaru ad, no less. Hysterical:

    http://youtu.be/7lm6v4XsUpY

    KV7 seemed half way between a Ford Flex and a minivan, with gullwing doors (concept fantasy, that would never see production) for the cool factor.
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