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  • steverstever Ex Yooper, en route to New MexicoPosts: 40,525
    When we were thinking about clunking our minivan, I was ready to rip out the radio and some other interior bits. From what I recall, mostly the trade-in had to make it onto the lot under its own power.

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Hope so, it is that odd piece of trim that'll keep you from finishing a restoration.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,710
    edited January 2013
    Luckily only a lunatic would restore a W124 or W126, and there are MB hoarder/parters out there who keep things. For some of the less upscale cars that were clunked, maybe not so much - but I doubt anyone will be hunting down a piece of trim for a 92 Exploder.

    For new cars, saw a rental Altima.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,175
    edited January 2013
    A truck load of new Mazda 6's. All different trim levels, the loaded ones with either 18's or 19's really look good. Might be the best looking midsize in the segment.

    Also a few new ES350's with the Predator Grill, nice looking car otherwise.

    The new (updated) Subaru Outback seems to be doing well, I've seen quite a few of them (Only giveaway that they are new is the new Blocky Foglight surrounds harkening back to the original Outback.

    S60 T6 in what Volvo calls "Rebel Blue". This one was an R-design with Gun-metal rims, and lower valences around the rear exhaust tips. The nose on those is a bit too long, but otherwise a great looking car.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,162
    ...deep blue Cadillac SRX spotted at Bleigh and Oxford Avenue in NE Philly and a white Cadillac XTS in the parking lot at work.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Now why does a mid size sedan need 19s?

    Overkill all the way. Think of the unsprung weight and all the extra work the brakes do to stop all that rotational inertia. I bet you could shave half a second off the 0-60 time if 16s fit on there.

    Not to mention tire costs.

    Sorry, end rant.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,710
    edited January 2013
    Not to mention ride quality, either. Unless it is a leviathan old Bentley or has some amazing air suspension system, a modern car can't wear the sidewalls on a 19" wheel to make it ride acceptably - especially for a middle of the road sedan.

    Speaking of new, on the 10th, Lexus announced via facebook that it would release something related to the IS Sportcross in "6 days". Today is the 24th, nothing.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, a large car or SUV with some sidewall could handle it, but this is going to have those rubber bands for tires.

    Lexus pulled off an elaborate joke to fool you specifically. ;)
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,621
    19" wheels come on Toyota Venzas, Tiguan SEL, etc, etc... You can't get away from them...

    Poor suckers buy Venzas and Highlanders, and can't understand why they are so bad in the snow... It's ridonkulous..

    A friend of mine bought a used Mazda CX-9.. had to have the Grand Touring for all the toys, but the standard wheel on that trim line is 20"!! Sucks to be him when he has to replace those $350 tires...

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I think Murano has 20s.

    Style over substance.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,690
    My wife is on her 3rd Escape. 04 has 16 inch wheels, 09 has 17 inch wheels and the 13 has 19 inch wheels.
    After she drove the 13 in her first bad snow commute, she said it was no big deal.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,621
    Yeah, my wife drove the car to McDonalds with a flat front tire. It's over a mile. I don't solicit her opinions on vehicle handling, any more.. ;)

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,690
    My mother left a message on our answering machine today.
    She hit a pothole and had a flat tire. The AAA guy put the donut on and said the wheel was going to need a new APS(TPMS), which would be expensive.
    I went over to see what the deal was.
    Donut on right front, check.
    Looked in the trunk. I see a Rim with 2 bands of rubber on the inside and no tire!
    She said the tire is under the storage panel, but I didn't look.
    I did go back and look at the area with the donut on it.
    The fender is bent out in front of the door and the fender liner is not attached to the fender, like it is on the other side.
    She drove at least 10 miles after getting the flat tire. :sick:
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,710
    Most of the small SUV class is all show no go. As this big wheel trend is relatively new, I suspect the buyers have no idea what they are getting into.

    Funny thing, depending on how muted the styling cues are, the Sportcross might be tolerable.

    Saw a Ferrari 458 out in the rain tonight.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,811
    Poor suckers buy Venzas and Highlanders, and can't understand why they are so bad in the snow... It's ridonkulous..

    That's why they make 17" snow tire packages for it. I would do it but I realize most folks don't bother with winter tires anymore.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,162
    Changing from "summer tires" to "snow tires" was an annual autumn ritual for me for many years. The last car on which I used snow tires was my 1989 Mercury Grand Marquis LS.

    Better yet, they were studded snow tires which helped a lot on snow and ice. PA state law stated you couldn't have them on the car earlier than November 15th or later than April 15th as they tended to be rough on paved roads. Upon removal in spring, you had to mark which tire was on the left and which was on the right due to the way these tires wore.
  • steverstever Ex Yooper, en route to New MexicoPosts: 40,525
    That's one ritual I don't miss. Even when I had mounted studs, it was a pain.

    Both the old rides have 15" wheels. :-)

    When we shopped a new MT Elantra Touring right before they changed the style, the trim had bigger "upscale" wheels. The dealer wasn't interested in any kind of swap and that dampened my enthusiasm a bit.

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  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,162
    ...another Cadillac XTS - this time travelling north on Tabor at Robbins in NE Philly. Funny thing is, I saw a 2000-2005 DeVille travelling east on Tabor nearby. That DeVille looked huge compared to the XTS. Heck, I always thought my similar 2007 DTS Performance was kind of petite.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,175
    I stopped a Venza owner at a gas station one day and asked him how his 20" clad Venza was in the snow and he said it was awesome. Makes it up his 20 degree pitched driveway just fine. I know, one a single data point but still...

    I did a quick check on Mazdas site and it looks like they truely are 19's. Only the base models come with 17's and there is nothing in between.

    Style over substance for sure.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,175
    Surely you remember last season tho, other than the big storm in October 2011, we (Mass.) had no snow at all.

    I think that is one of the biggest problems with snow tires (at least in areas of the Country where snow season is not garaunteed), you put them on and they get worn out fast when they go a season on dry pavement. Plus IIRC, snows tend to be noisy on dry roads as well.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,811
    Surely you remember last season tho, other than the big storm in October 2011, we (Mass.) had no snow at all.

    True but that is the exception rather than the norm. I spend a lot of time up north camping and skiing in the winter and things can be different 100 miles north of Boston.

    I think that is one of the biggest problems with snow tires (at least in areas of the Country where snow season is not garaunteed), you put them on and they get worn out fast when they go a season on dry pavement. Plus IIRC, snows tend to be noisy on dry roads as well.

    Yes they do wear faster on dry pavement and can be noisy but I'll trade that for the extra traction being available. Remember that under 40F, all season/summer tires lose grip very quickly.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,162
    I remember a constant hum from those studded snow tires on dry pavement. One got used to it after a while.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    04 has 16 inch wheels, 09 has 17 inch wheels and the 13 has 19 inch wheels

    At that rate, a 3" increase per decade, she'll have DUBs in no time. ;)

    I don't change tires, I change cars. :shades:

    Miata with summer gumballs for fair weather, steal the wife's Subaru for snow.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,455
    our RDX is not too bad. only 18" on it, and I think 55 or 60 series? So pretty meaty sidewall. Still not a super common size, and expensive now. Hopefully that changes in 4-5 years when I need new ones.

    I think the Santa Fe had 20s on the top line model?

    I agree that most of these cars now are way too big in the wheel. 18 should be only for larger cars, and most should be fine with 16-17"

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (daughter stole that one), and 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again)

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,690
    We just keep accumulating vehicles, a couple passed on to the kids. The best looking one is the '91 because it's in the garage and I washed it before I put the cover on it.

    I spotted a couple of Panamera's at work this week. One, as expected, in an executive parking spot. The other was in the general parking lot.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,710
    Saw one of those lifted Impreza wagons, a new Accord, and a ridiculous blacked out new style X3 with loud music inside. I couldn't see the driver through the tint, but I'll place a bet, and it isn't the typical loud thumping car lover.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Looks beautiful in person, lots of road presence. This was a black one driving next to me in Rockville.
  • odie6lodie6l Hershey, PaPosts: 1,078
    edited January 2013
    I'll stick with my Kevlar lined 16's on "The Beast" over the monsters on my wife Crosstour anyday.

    Odie

    235/70 R16 Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armors.
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    These were the 1st set that replaced the Inegrity's. This picture was at 56k. I've just replaced with another set (same) when they hit 65k (on the 60k treadlife).
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,162
    ...red Dodge Dart travelling south on Huntingdon Pike near Susquehanna Road in Montgomery County, PA.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,710
    Pretty sure I saw a new Avalon this morning - just caught the side, which looks like other cars, but it was bigger than a Fusion. I didn't have to see that maw, so all is well.
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