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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189

    Saw a 4er GT today, and a new CTS with "Boeing Classic" door signage.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,552

    Spotted a whole trailer load of BMW i3s. Headed up I-26, about two hours north of the port in Charleston, SC.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189

    Went car looking earlier today - BMW dealer had maybe a dozen i3 - some loaded up to 56K or so. Also numerous 3ers around 60K, so the 60K C-class isn't such a big deal.

    MB dealer had a new S65, 230K+ MSRP.

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,931

    In the parking lot at work 2 new CLA's.

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 2,275

    I was surprised when I was at the local M-B dealer yesterday that they only had one CLA on the lot - I thought they would be overrun with them. I dunno if that means they are selling like crazy or are not selling at all. They had a surprising number of B-series cars, especially since I almost never see them on the roads.

    I noticed yesterday that according to the M-B website the 2015 C-class has a dash similar to the CLA with the glued-on iPad-like screen jutting up from the center of the dash. A step backwards IMO.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,552

    @ab348 said: I was surprised when I was at the local M-B dealer yesterday that they only had one CLA on the lot - I thought they would be overrun with them. I dunno if that means they are selling like crazy or are not selling at all. They had a surprising number of B-series cars, especially since I almost never see them on the roads.

    I noticed yesterday that according to the M-B website the 2015 C-class has a dash similar to the CLA with the glued-on iPad-like screen jutting up from the center of the dash. A step backwards IMO.

    Recently saw a listing of the top-ten fastest selling models, measured by days on the lot, and the CLA was one of them. Maybe, they are delivering them, as fast as they get them in?

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,465
    edited August 26

    @kyfdx said: Maybe, they are delivering them, as fast as they get them in?

    The local store has 4 compared to 13 C's and 14 E's out of a total new stock of 49.

    3 are mountain grey with Ash MB-tex interior (what color is ash? Black?) 1 is white with black red-cut interior. It's available for $64K if anyone wants the info to contact the dealer to buy it...

    Of course Mercedes could be just not delivering as many as the demand might be for, making it easier to maintain the idea they are difficult to get.

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 2,275

    $64K? I thought the CLA was a mid-30s to mid-$40s car?

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189

    In Murka, starts at 30K, loaded with an ipad glued to the dash and other boxes checked, 40K. But a loaded AMG model can get up to around 60K.

    Early on anyway, sales were literally 100% more than predicted - it's a huge home run for MB, and I bet the margins are nice, too (built on existing platform, built in Hungary).

    US is just getting the B now, as an electric.

    @ab348 said: $64K? I thought the CLA was a mid-30s to mid-$40s car?

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,465
    edited August 26

    @ab348 said: $64K? I thought the CLA was a mid-30s to mid-$40s car?

    http://www.mbofcenterville.com/new/2014/mercedes/cla45-amg/2014-mercedes-cla45-amg-white-centerville-for-sale-wddsj5cb5en113846

    On the dealer page, these are slide shows:

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 2,275

    Black rims? Someone must have put a set of snow tires on the thing. ;)

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  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,977

    @ab348 said: Black rims? Someone must have put a set of snow tires on the thing. ;)

    Nope those are optional rims on the CLA45. I just built one on MBUSA and ticked every box and hit $67,511.

    Yikes.

  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,624

    Two Ford F-150 King Ranch pickups on a small car hauler.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189

    Went car looking - no TLXs, and the layout of local Acura dealer who has about 3 parking spots didn't make me want to hang around. M4 - MSRP 83 or 86K, good luck (it'll sell). Lexus showroom was pretty bare, but an almost zero option IS250 seemed unusual. Used A7 was the most interesting thing on the Toyota lot - man the 4Runner has a homely face. Chatted up a friendly salesman at the less than crowded Caddy dealer, who had 5x ELR on the lot - first thing he said was "problem with those is that they are too expensive", good. New CTS is a really nice looking ride.

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 2,275

    @fintail said: New CTS is a really nice looking ride.

    It is, in the right colors. Local dealer has one in black and one in a dark grayish shade, both with black insides, and they look kind of blah. But I do like the design. The problem I have is that they are priced in M-B territory now. I am a GM fan but I know their trim, hardware, switchgear, mechanicals, etc, is not of the same quality. And going to the dealer for service and waiting in line behind some pizza delivery kid in a Sonic is not what I want at that price point. I was thinking I would probably buy a CTS to replace my Regal, but they may be pushing me to M-B. I like the E-class and the new C-class is interesting.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,465

    @ab348 said: And going to the dealer for service and waiting in line behind some pizza delivery kid in a Sonic is not what I want at that price point.

    Most Cadillac stores are self standing here after the shakeup in stores by GM. A few a Cadillac/GMC, Cadillac/GMC/Buick, or Cadillac/Buick. It varies with the locations and ownership and market when they were doing the cutbacks on stores.

    Aren't going to be many pizza delivery folks driving a Cadillac. GMC is a possibility but not likely in this area. More likely to see a rotted out honda or Hyunda.

  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189
    edited September 1

    CTS has grown up, it seems E size now. ATS is more Regal comparable, IMO. I think it looks good in white (along with the E). The darker metallics are very sparkly, which is a cool kind of retro thing. Nicely equipped, around 60K - which isn't far off the E, maybe 10% at most. The MB might lease better, especially for a returning customer. My local Caddy dealer is Caddy only, so the dealer experience shouldn't be the same. But, I don't love the center stack design. I'll probably be brand loyal when my current term is up, but I don't mind looking. I still think about buying a car, but as long as I can afford it, might as well live a little - and there aren't many modern used cars that I really like, nor do I know if I want to put an older car into daily driver use.

    The C shows the future of MB, where the E will probably be pushed up a notch, and the C slotting in below the current E, but not entry level. With the new C being able to be optioned north of 60K (in the US), things are changing. CLA is the new C, C will be a smaller E, E a smaller S.

    @ab348 said: It is, in the right colors. Local dealer has one in black and one in a dark grayish shade, both with black insides, and they look kind of blah. But I do like the design. The problem I have is that they are priced in M-B territory now.

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 2,275

    In these parts there are no standalone Cadillac dealers. Probably should be, or Cadillac-Buick at least. The experience at the Chevy-Buick-Cadillac dealer where I bought my Regal is not great. But the volume here is small cheap cars and pickups. Not sure a Cadillac-Buick dealer would do enough business to survive here.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189
    edited September 2

    My mom lives in a small town. When I was a kid, the Caddy dealer shared a building with Buick, GMC, and of all things, Honda. Today, they are all gone except Honda.

    Here, Caddy is standalone, near the Chevy dealer. The dealership once had a cool 70s style building in a great location, but it was apparently leased (?), and moved about 4-5 years ago. The current location is odd - it's the old Hummer dealer, faux Quonset hut style. Small showroom, but decent outdoor lot. The local big Germans and Lexus have palaces in comparison.

    @ab348 said: In these parts there are no standalone Cadillac dealers. Probably should be, or Cadillac-Buick at least. The experience at the Chevy-Buick-Cadillac dealer where I bought my Regal is not great. But the volume here is small cheap cars and pickups. Not sure a Cadillac-Buick dealer would do enough business to survive here.

  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,198

    My Cadillac dealer is stand-alone. They briefly were Cadillac-Hummer.

  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,198

    Spotted a white Kia Optima at the Giant supermarket the other day.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,613

    the caddy dealer ordered 5 ELRs?! Oh man, that's really unfortunate and a bad bad decision. (if they had a choice in the matter, that is)

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 15,469

    New legacy. Very nice. Solid improvement. Especially to the interior.

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  • texasestexases Posts: 5,671

    Subarus are really improved, except for the CVTs. Anyone driven one with a CVT? I like our '07 Forester, the new ones have solved (I think) the head gasket problems, no timing belt, but I'm not a CVT fan.

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 15,469

    I drove one yesterday. Cvt was fine. Did not even notice it, which is a good thing! Car moved quick and smooth, and no droning. This was a 2015 legacy, and they did tweak the tranny with the redesign.

    The head gasket issue was cured a few years back when they updated the engine design.

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  • texasestexases Posts: 5,671
    edited September 2

    Thanks, good to hear the CVT wasn't a droner, unlike some. I like the room (especially headroom) and visibility in our Forester, both of which look to be retained in the new one.

  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,624
    edited September 2

    Honda CR-Z, think it was a 2013. Chatted up the owner and forgot to ask him what year.

    He was a bit meh about the car and figures everyone else must be too, since the word is that they are going to be discontinued in the US after this year along with the Insight. He gets better in-town mpg than the EPA, up to 43, so he likes that part.

    One problem is that it's black and he's quickly learned that you shouldn't get a black car in New Mexico. But in his case it wasn't the heat, but keeping it clean. He was cleaning off the car with his California Duster when I ran into him.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 15,469

    @texases said: Thanks, good to hear the CVT wasn't a droner, unlike some. I like the room (especially headroom) and visibility in our Forester, both of which look to be retained in the new one.

    I sometimes have headroom issues (I barely fit in my TL, and head rubs) but the legacy even with moonroof had a ton of space. Very airy car.

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 2,705

    @fintail said: Went car looking - no TLXs, and the layout of local Acura dealer who has about 3 parking spots didn't make me want to hang around. M4 - MSRP 83 or 86K, good luck (it'll sell). Lexus showroom was pretty bare, but an almost zero option IS250 seemed unusual. Used A7 was the most interesting thing on the Toyota lot - man the 4Runner has a homely face. Chatted up a friendly salesman at the less than crowded Caddy dealer, who had 5x ELR on the lot - first thing he said was "problem with those is that they are too expensive", good. New CTS is a really nice looking ride.

    One Boston area CAddy dealer has almost cleared out his ELR inventory by knocking $20k off the MSRP. Of course, there's a $14k rebate, so $20k is a good start. Get it down to $50k, maybe a better seller?

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189

    I bet they got dumped here - some manager type thought "Bellevue, they have money, these'll be fine" - not realizing this place could be renamed "Teslaville".

    I agree, if they want to sell 'em, 50K or so would be better.

    @qbrozen said: the caddy dealer ordered 5 ELRs?! Oh man, that's really unfortunate and a bad bad decision. (if they had a choice in the matter, that is)

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