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  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,100
    Ugh I'm a style type person so a car's looks are somewhat important. I just think the new Matrix is ugly with squared off and round lines erverywhere, no real theme or specific style to it. And the Prius C is even uglier in my opinion. Just an oddball car. I know for most people it's a reliable appliance but I just think they're gross. :lemon:

    2007 BMW 328i Sports Pkg, 1993 Honda Accord EXR (my 33rd car).

  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,032
    It's what's inside that counts. :)
  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 1,351
    Expanding on the Crosstour a little further, I've read lots of comments about how the TSX wagon is a much smarter buy than the Crosstour. I'm not so sure. Bear in mind that the TSX Tech and the Crosstour EXL 4wd are within about $1k of each other and both have Navi:

    TSX pros-
    More overall cargo volume
    Slightly better over all mileage (22/30)
    Better warranty
    Likely sportier handling (haven't driven one)
    Real roof rails (hey, I'm a skier)
    Lighter

    TSX cons-
    4cyl/5AT combo only - 200hp
    Rear shock tower housing eats up a lot of cargo space
    Fwd only

    Crosstour pros-
    V6 is meatier and comes with the new 6AT- 278hp and actual torque
    AWD
    New 13 Accord tech like hondalink & apps, blind spot camera, forward collision and lane departure warning integrated in crosstour / not avail on TSX
    More rear legroom

    Crosstour cons-
    Less MPG (19/28 for V6 AWD)
    Less warranty
    Less total cargo volume
    NO roof rails
    Heavier

    To me, a loss of 2mpg would be worth the extra power, torque and awd. And actually, I think the power/MPG ratio is pretty respectable on the xtour. The overall cargo volume is less obviously due to the sloping back, but given that the length and width of the cargo area are pretty similar, I don't know if most people would be losing a lot in the real world.

    The other competitors here I suppose are the Outback and Venza: Outback is more practical, better awd system, similar price in LTD H6 form, but has a cheaper interior quality, less power and mpg, and less interior tech. The Venza has the power and space, but also has a cheaper interior quality, less MPG and forces you into those stupid 19 and 20" wheels.

    Anyhow, I guess I'm saying I'm not seeing the worldwide Crosstour hate. Your mileage may vary...
  • Couldn't have said it better myself.........and when comparing 2012 vs 2013 Crosstours, its like comparing 2012 vs 2013 Accords.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I think Honda missed the boat in the last 10 years of not offering a Civic sized hatchback (Insight and Fit doesn't count)

    I'd test drive one if they had it.

    Fit's gas tank is puny, otherwise I'd at least consider it. 10.6 gallons vs the Mazda3's 14.5 gallon tank. The Mazda will go a lot farther per tankful.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I like the Prius C. It's supposed to be an oddball. They should all come in that traffic cone orange color.

    They put the battery under the rear seats and that squeezes fuel capacity, thus limiting range.

    Good city car, anyway.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    edited February 2013
    Rear shock tower housing eats up a lot of cargo space

    Isn't that the case with the Crosstour also?

    I measured the width of the cargo area and it's very weak in that area, in fact the Outback was a full *foot* wider there.

    You expect an inch or two, sure, but a foot?
  • Those shock towers are a problem IF you need the space.If you do , you won't get a Crosstour. They don't bother me ( I have 3 trucks if I need to haul much)
    but wouldn't do for some. I think of my CT as a large 4WD hatchback sedan.........a fairly unique design that suits me, but apparently not too many others.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I like the CT but the kids will veto it due to the small back seat.

    People don't realize it's not a Prius clone, it's actually a lot smaller.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,611
    I like the CT but the kids will veto it due to the small back seat.

    When they add value to the equation, then they get a vote.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Well, I won't let them choose what car I get, but I do take the family along to see how they like it.

    Did I tell you, they liked the Prius V (back seat roomy, reclines, awesome panoramic moonroof) and the Jeep Wrangler TWO door (cool factor). I can't think of two cars that are more opposite.

    Plus both are too big and not really city cars, not at all what I'm looking for.
  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,100
    10 gallons, ha, that's a smaller tank than my 04 Echo hatchback daily driver. :surprise:

    2007 BMW 328i Sports Pkg, 1993 Honda Accord EXR (my 33rd car).

  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 1,351
    CT200h...these too spendy for your search? I like the look of them; see them around here, but not as much as the A3.

    Sidenote: Audi says they are killing the A3 hatch for slow sales in the US. If true, the ones they do sell must be mostly to the bay area...I see them everywhere. There are 4 on my street alone.
  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,100
    A ton of them in Vancouver as well. I wonder if the A3 will be pulled here too.

    2007 BMW 328i Sports Pkg, 1993 Honda Accord EXR (my 33rd car).

  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,611
    Sidenote: Audi says they are killing the A3 hatch for slow sales in the US.

    True - the A3 sedan will be the new base for Audi.

    Remember, Americans like their luxury models - even the entry level ones - to have a trunk. There will be an A3 wagon but not for us.
  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 1,351
    Remember, Americans like their luxury models - even the entry level ones - to have a trunk.

    Except in SF, apparently. The rest of the US sees the bay area as communist, anyhow. And they're probably right when it comes to Berkeley.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,940
    Plenty of A3s around Seattle, too. Even diesels.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,611
    Except in SF, apparently. The rest of the US sees the bay area as communist, anyhow. And they're probably right when it comes to Berkeley.

    Well we here in Boston are a pretty deep shade of blue as well.....
  • berriberri Posts: 4,009
    Speaking of blue, how come it's tough to find a nice blue these days unlike a few decades back? Most every blue car I see is either dark ink blue, or light silver blue. How about a nice medium blue with a ivory, beige or saddle interior?
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,940
    I love the "quartz blue" offered on C and E class from 2010-2012. Sadly, it's gone now :sick:

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