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  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Of course one possibility is that the post-2005 models have not had sufficient time to develop the problem. So, your list may expand. :cry:
  • Well that's what I'm thinking! So far have 19 entries from Toronto Mazda3 and 2 from Mazda3 forums. Hopefully people here will join up for this list which I'll be sending to Mazda Canada. The more the better in getting our corrosion issue taken seriously!
  • ATTENTION:
    I will not be taking any more submission past next Friday (June 20). If you're on the fence or for some other reason postponing sending me your entry, DO IT NOW. Even if you have had your corrosion repaired either under warranty or privately, you should add your name.

    One of the goals of the list is to show Mazda Canada that ALOT of these first generation Mazda3s are rusting/bubbling in the same spots. Also, if you did have your repairs done under warranty, that supports another goal. With the same type of damage, some people get their work done without hassle under warranty, some are told "not eligible for coverage under warranty". That is very unfair and totally unreasonable as Mazda Canada makes the final decision in all of these cases. If you did have your work done under warranty, sending me a copy of your repair invoice will help to support this goal.

    Lastly, if you do send me an entry, having visual proof is a BIG bonus. Take clear pictures that show your rust/bubbling and send them my way. I will add those to your entry to support your statements of corrosion damage.

    Thanks and send in those entries! One week left...
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    There has been a dramatic shift in the pricing of Mazda vehicles in Canada. Prices have dropped for many models; the Mazda3 has dropped two thousand dollars in 2009. Mazda acknowledges that the price drop is a reflection of the strong Canadian dollar. Kudos to Mazda Canada for doing the right thing and pricing their vehicles closer to their real value!

    On the other hand, there has also been a change in Mazda financing. The 2009 "standard" financing rate for a 2009 vehicle is now in the 5% range; compare this to the 2008 rates of 0%, .9% or 1.9% for 48 months for many Mazda vehicles. Those who are not ready to hand over a large cash deposit as part of their purchase are therefore going to pay more to finance their choice. This appears to me to reflect more closely the finance rates in the US.

    Will the lower prices but higher finance rates bring in more customers? Or, will those customers continue to play the waiting game in the hope that the finance rates moderate? And what will the competition do?

    For more information, go to the Mazda Canada site and check out the "promotions" page for the Make Your Move event and the shopping tools page for the Driving Dividend page. http://www.mazda.ca/event/drivingdividend/09/eng/index.asp
  • ex_tdierex_tdier Posts: 273
    There has been a dramatic shift in the pricing of Mazda vehicles in Canada. Prices have dropped for many models; the Mazda3 has dropped two thousand dollars in 2009. Mazda acknowledges that the price drop is a reflection of the strong Canadian dollar. Kudos to Mazda Canada for doing the right thing and pricing their vehicles closer to their real value!

    Kudos? I guess some of us will award kudos for common sense or doing what's morally or ethically proper. I can see it now, kudos are given for basic things, like doctors being able to see you.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I'm waiting to see if Honda follow suit with similar reduced prices for the '09 Civic.
  • Hi...I have a Mazda 3 Sport GT..2004....the rust is also starting...Mazda says its normal...I am pissed off and do not know what to do!!! Please let me knoe if there is anything I can do about this problem that is getting really bad...

    Chris
  • Go back to your dealership, show them your rust, and demand that pictures be taken and sent to Mazda Canada. AWA (After Warranty Assistance - aka an extension on our 3 year warranty) has currently been made available to cover repairs to the rear panel rusting (ie. wheel wells, bumper seams, quarter panels). There should be no issue at all with you getting this damage repaired for free...
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  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    From a CANWEST article today:
    "Carmakers yesterday reported their worst April Canadian sales in 10 years as the the industry's pain continued. Automakers sold 143,931 vehicles nationwide in April, a 17.8 per cent decline over the same month last year, according to data from DesRosiers Automotive Consultants. The industry is tracking for sales of 1.35 million vehicles by year-end, a major drop from the 1.65-million range sold over the past few years. ... Spring marks the beginning of what is normally the busiest time of the year for sales of new cars and trucks ... Several automakers outperformed the market, including Ford, Mazda and Hyundai."
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Mazda has some nice sensible models (esp the 3, 5, & 6) for the everyday Joe, and their pricing would be more budget-friendly in today's economy, although the prices for the 2009 3 & 5, when optioned-up, are creeping close to the $30K CDN mark!

    As an aside, I recently had the 5 on a rental for a few days. That's a really nice all-purpose family vehicle. If only it had a few more horses, and AWD, it would probably sell like hotcakes in Canada.

    And I'm not at all surprised Hyundai is doing well. Honda and Toyota should be at the other end of the spectrum, given their current line-ups of aethetically-challenged snooze-mobiles.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    the prices for the 2009 3 & 5, when optioned-up, are creeping close to the $30K CDN
    Indeed.
    It is a source of wonder to me to see how far the range of prices on a car, like the Mazda3, can get. One can see an ad for a Mazda3 sedan listed at C$14,995 but when it comes to actually getting the vehicle, that figure could easily double. Now there are all sorts of taxes and fees that get into the picture, but it can be a bit of a shock. The other shock, of course, is what happens when the vehicle sits around a little while and depreciation kicks in. The average car loses over 60% of its value in 48 months; much of that depreciation happens within the first year.

    Jeremy Cato wrote an excellent article on "Vehicle Pricing" in the May 7, 2009 issue of the Globe and Mail.
  • I have noticed that upon first startup for the day, my Mazda will rev at 2000 rpms for a while. This morning, with the outside temperature at -9C (15.8F) I felt that idling at 2000 rpms seemed a bit excessive. Does anybody know if that is reason for concern or is it normal?
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Sounds pretty normal to me, errr, unless the RPMs don't drop back to normal within a few seconds.
  • ex_tdierex_tdier Posts: 273
    For comparison purposes, how much of a saving is there, if any, in buying a Mazda3 in the USA? Not that I would want to do that sort of thing, especially since Mazda3s seem to be plagued with premature rust issues.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    how much of a saving is there, if any, in buying a Mazda3 in the USA?

    I suspect that you mean buying in the USA and driving it in Canada. My understanding is that it is not worth all the effort and cost to do this unless you buy a pricier model (e.g. Mazdaspeed3). To avoid the headaches involved, some buyers seek the services of professional brokers who know the ropes (e.g. difference between US and Canadian safety and emissions regulations). Plus, dealerships tend not to frown upon servicing cars that have been imported as that cuts into their business.

    My suggestion is to write to Mazda Canada and ask them to explain why prices are higher than US prices when the exchange rate is near par. Some difference in price may be understandable but 20+% differentials for virtually identical vehicles is difficult to fathom. By comparison, look at the Mazdaspeed3 in Canada and the US and try to figure out why this car, which is built in Japan, is 30+% more expensive in Canada.

    Finally, remember to factor in finance rates; these tend to be very good in Canada on some models like the Mazda3 (e.g. 0% for 48 months).
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    Oops. The previous posting should have read:

    Plus, Canadian dealerships tend to frown upon servicing cars that have been imported from US dealerships as that cuts into their business.
  • ex_tdierex_tdier Posts: 273
    I hear that even with the brokerage fees it's *may* still cheaper with an exchange rate surchage of 10% ($1 CDN=$.90 USD). But are there hassles? There shouldnt be if the broker does what hes suppose. While financing can be very attractive in Canada, you have to look at the overall cost including financing. Sometimes, you may get lucky and have the dealer cover the financing, but that's rare. You usually have to finance it in Canada or pay cash (can you say drug dealer?) lol.

    As long as the vehicle warranty is transferrable into Canada, no dealership is going to frown upon a vehicle coming from the US. This happens all the time. If anything, they won't cover the item under warranty and you have to pay out of pocket. Again, the dealership wins because the manufacturer (Mazda Canada) will pay the dealer to do the warranty work.

    I know a few people who brought their cars from the USA. Unfortunately, they're not in my league because it's BMW's or other high priced vehicle.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    I know a few people who brought their cars from the USA. Unfortunately, they're not in my league because it's BMW's or other high priced vehicle.

    Agreed. That was my point exactly: buying a vehicle across the border is cumbersome and therefore the incentive has to be more than saving a few dollars. Typically, luxury or specialty cars seem candidates for this type of activity. A tricked-out Mazda Miata or a Mazdaspeed3 may be worth the aggravation; a Mazda3 hardly seems worth it.
  • ex_tdierex_tdier Posts: 273
    Looks like there is a bulletin on this but not all Mazda3s are covered. For example, if you have a 2004 or 2005 you're SOL. If you have a 2005 and you're warranty expires this year, you too could be SOL.
  • zoom123zoom123 Posts: 1
    You make reference to a bulletin, Where would that be?
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,345
    I simply can't believe the number of severely rusted Mazdas I have seen in the last 3+ years. A friend's cancer broke out only after 4 years of ownership of her 02 or 03 Protege 5, but I see it on all Proteges.

    So my question is: (assuming Mazda has surely addressed this issue by now??)

    What year was this finally addressed? Did they do it with a thicker coat of hot galvanizing? Or maybe they foolishly weren't using hot galvanizing?
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    edited October 2011
    The Canadian prices for the 2012 Mazda3 are on the Mazda Canada site.

    The models include the GS Sky Activ, which promises great fuel economy. If anyone has test driven this model let us know what you think.

    Vehicle pricing seems reasonable compared to last year. However, financing is no longer 0% but 2.9%. Financing for long periods (e.g. 60, 72, 84 months) could substantially add to the overall price of the vehicle. Based on past experience this will not last long, especially with all the competition out there in the small car/compact market from the usual suspects (Honda, Toyota, GM) and some great new upstarts (Hyundai, Kia).
  • speed07speed07 Posts: 1
    Ihave a 2006 model but bought it in 2005 of november . They duped me at mazda made me wait for a year and then some for rust corrosion issues sent the pictures off and waited then they come back saying no its over the 6 years cut off. Bunch of asses. Now I have to repair the rust myself. Anyone know a good person at mazda headquarters in ontario to compain to that will do something for me? I got a hold of the customer relations rep but they did squat. So dissapointed in mazda.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    edited August 2012
    "mazda made me wait for a year and then some for rust corrosion issues sent the pictures off and waited then they come back saying no its over the 6 years cut off "

    6 years? The Mazda Canada site states "2012 and older model years include a 60 Months / Unlimited Kilometers Perforation Warranty." If it is 60 months (i.e. 5 years) then your cut off would be October 2010. Did you notify them in writing before then?

    Good luck!
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