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  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    My comment was regarding the Exterior http://www.audiusa.com/model_home/0,,bodyStyleId-5,00.html?bodystyle=a6avant which is excellant. You meant to reply to Lexasguy regarding his INTERIOR comparison photos.
  • rich545rich545 Posts: 386
    Well, maybe sitting in it is different than pictures of it because sitting in my wife's car I think it feels very welcoming. One other thing is that the above car has a grey interior whereas my wife's is black which I think looks much nicer. I do think that poor flash work adds to how bad that picture makes the interior look too.
  • rich545rich545 Posts: 386
    I don't know if you've ever been in one or if you're just going off of the picture, but I would encourage you to sit in one before mentioning cheap plastic. I would say that the interior of the A6 uses top-flight materials. In fact, I'll go so far as to say I think it's much nicer than my 545's interior. I've been in the E and the LS (never the GS though) and I can tell you that neither uses less plastic or has a more quality feel at least in my opinion. The entire top of the E's dash is all hard plastic. I didn't think that the Allroad's interior was great or very luxurious, but the new A6 is definitely both.
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,938
    Not to mention a gray interior never looks comforting or inviting. It's, IMO, the coldest interior of them all. Depressing even.

    On another note, rich545, which seats do your wife have, the sport or the regular. Do you guys notice the side of the seat cushion pokes you in the rear/thigh on entry/exit? It's like a really hard edge where the seat controls are. That's been my experience with the normal seats. I haven't had the opportunity to try the sport seats yet.
  • No, i've never been in a an A6 but the pictures speak volumes. I'm going to sound a bit harsh but please allow me my honest thoughts:
    Let's take the GS as an example of a compare-

    GS steering wheel- real birds eye maple wood and leather wrapped
    A6 steering wheel- all plastic, like a Cavalier I would dare say

    GS radio/nav- radio knobs are chrome ringed, entire radio/button set up looks very rich
    A6 radio/nav- just looks cheap, i'm sorry, but for a 50 thousand dollar car what they put in is a travesty

    GS gauges- beautiful steel bezel, numbers illuminate in any light
    A6 gauges- ok, will do, but for 50 grand man, I dont know.

    Again, i'm just speaking my mind- had this been a 24K car, i'd have said nothing but if Audi is looking to gain ground on the GS's RL's, 530's, E's, M's of this world, then i'm absolutely unimpressed. Am I the only one??
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,206
    It may be time to recall that the Euro vs Dollar situation has gone way south over the past four years.

    Or not.
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,938
    You really need to go sit inside, and drive, an A6. Your info is misguided. The A6 has a leather wrapped sterring wheel (and I believe wood is optional). The dials for the MMI, climate, radio volume, etc. are chrome trimmed. The guages are backlit in all lighting conditions and plenty visible.
  • Perhaps I do indeed need to see it in person and I know that flash harshens things alot but still i'm unimpressed- now look at this if you want to see sumptuous luxury appointments-

    http://lexus.com/assets/models/gallery/photos/main_assets/interior/GS-493.jpg
  • rich545rich545 Posts: 386
    Pictures can actually be very bad a speaking volumes. If you've ever looked at a house you'd probably agree. My wife's A6 has a wood and leather wrapped sterring wheel. The NAV system in the A6 is anything but cheap. It was designed by a Japanese firm as even Audi admits that they aren't as good at it. The bottons and dials in the car all feel like they are very high quality. Again, I know you're just expressing your opinion, but please go sit in one before you make assumptions based on a picture. You may still hate it, but I was pleasantly surprised. My opinion is that Audi offers the best value-for-money in the segment. I don't know about the GS, but the E and E60 both easily cost $10K more than the A6. Certainly, my 545 is much faster and handles better than the 3.2 A6, but I don't know if the same would be true of the 530xi or 350 E. I'm just saying that I think it's a very nice car, and I can tell you that everyone that she's shown the car to thinks it's hot as hell (including people that would have never bought and Audi before).
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,938
    You get no argument from me that the GS has a nice interior, though I find both the GS and the A6 interiors to be a bit "antiseptic." But not bad at all.
  • rich545rich545 Posts: 386
    She has the regular seats, and it's funny you mention that. I felt it everytime I got out of the passenger seat. I almost felt like I was breaking the seat! Hopefully I'm not heavy enough to do that!
  • I truly believe that you are right, that if I sit in one, it will be better than the picture shows, but still I don't think that "luxury" will scream at me when I sit in it.. -can you take a pic of your wife's interior and show us? i'm curious to see it
  • rich545rich545 Posts: 386
    I'll give it a try tonight, but though I have a nice camera (Nikon D70) I'm not a professional. I'm sure Lexus used a pro to take their shot. In the meantime though look at this pic from Audi's website:

    http://www.audiusa.com/model_gallery/0,3525,bodyStyleId-4_area-1_subarea-2_mediaId-7000401- 5683,00.html?bodystyle=a6sedan
  • The audi site interior photos definetely look much better than the first ones we saw, yes. The D70 will be tough unless you have a wide wide angle (like 12-16mm) because of the 1.5X multiplier factor of the sensor.
  • rich545rich545 Posts: 386
    Yeah, the widest I go is 18mm so it probably will be tough. The website picture is more true to life anyway though.
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    I have no complaints in regards to Audi's materials quality. They still rank with the best of the best in terms of materials quality, panel gaps, etc. I just dont like how cold the overall "ambiance" of the interior became. Pretty much all of the previous car's elegant curved surfaces became flat and dull.
  • bdr127bdr127 Posts: 950
    Audi is rather universally regarded as having the finest interiors of luxury sedans. Regardless of performance, comfort, price, etc, all the comparos always remark on how great the Audi interiors are. I'd definitely agree, as well, of course. I'd also agree that you need to see one to really know. It certainly does not have the look of "cheap plastic" in person.....
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    All this talk about Audi interiors!
    Where is Mark Cincinnati when needed to keep us spellbound with a few dozen paragraphs on the history of Audi interiors? ;)

    "Mares eat oats and does eat oats, and little lambs eat ivy"

    speaking of top interiors check out what Edmunds feature for 2005
    http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/list/top10/103266/article.html
  • I really have very little to add to this discussion about the interiors. Those who read the auto and enthusiast car magazines (like them or not) know that Audi, for years, has been credited with having "the best interiors." Regardless of other attributes (at the moment), the Audi interiors are said to be second to none.

    I would love to wax poetic on this subject, for it is the interiors of Audis that are time and time again said to be "jewel like" and as far as the switchgear is concerned, the switches and knobs seem like high end audio equipment in terms of their tactile feel and appearance.

    But I will not spend another 1,500 words trying to convince someone, anyone, who hasn't seen them in person but has seen the pictures posted here and has concluded the Audi interiors are cheap. Why not?

    Because, unless I miss my guess, those of us who think Audi interiors have few peers but many "rivals" (who repeatedly miss the mark) -- no matter what their credentials as auto journalists might be -- are expressing opinions and are basing their remarks on emotion.

    The LPS cars have been written about time and again and I would have thought that "nobody doesn't love Audi interiors." Obviously, this isn't the case -- some folks just like their choices, their faves more. It is a free country.

    Quantity may count -- maybe it doesn't -- but, the quantity of glowing reviews about Audi interiors dominates the reviews and comments about LPS interiors overall.

    Audi interiors are the benchmark -- other aspects pertaining to Audis (and the LPS cars generally) are way wide open for debate. Audi interiors, however, are what the other guys aspire to.

    This "fact" doesn't make it a universal truth. If you are looking for truth -- you've come to the right place. Let the debate continue.
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    Very succinct. :)
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