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Luxury Performance Sedans



  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    I have not pondered such a choice since both the BMW Z4 and Honda S2000 do not suit my family lifestyle! That is why I have to settle for the compromise of a sport sedan/wagon !

    But hypothetically if I was single or an empty nester I would pick the Honda S2000. Why? Because I love the idea of listening to its motorcycle pitch while reving between 6k to 9k rpm! I've heard the S2000 loves to rev. Also the S2000 is cheaper than the Z4!
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    Yes. It may show up in the Zephyr as early as next year. The current LS is supposed to die off pretty soon. I'm pretty sure its replacement is going to be based on the AWD version of the Ford 500, itself borrowed from the Volvo S80.

    Apparently DEW98 will continue, but only in the next Jag S-type, which will not get a shortened version of the aluminum XJ platform as previously planned.
  • warthogwarthog Posts: 216
    Got all of you beat. I learned on my family's 1956 Chrysler Imperial. Now THAT was a back seat!
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    Maybe I can find a way to post a picture of me with my first learner a '52 Chevy! It was a :lemon: but I loved that car!
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    Wow, and I thought I was an old timer!
  • My first recollection of a car was a 1951 Hudson Hornet, the first car I actually drove (illegally) was my dad's 1953 Hudson Hornet with "twin H power" and a turbo hydra matic transmission.

    When I became old enough to legally drive the thing, my dad helped me get the old relic running and other than the fact that it had both standard brakes and steering (the amount of pressure required to stop the car required literally "standing on the pedal,") it was clearly a car that had to have been as the saying goes, ahead of its time.

    This big car with this HUGE i6 and twin carbs was clearly the LPS of the early and mid 1950's.

    I don't miss it at all -- but I do have fond memories.

    God, I'm old.
  • sdiver68sdiver68 Posts: 119
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  • There are some "more seasoned" men here than I, but I wanted to share my embarrassment of driving my mother's 1976 AMC Pacer to high school. :blush: It definitely wasn't considered one of the "cool cars", nor did it have a rocket engine. But at least it got me from point A to point B... I heard every joke from "pregnant Volkswagon" to "moonbuggey"...

    On the other hand, why isn't the Pacer on the list up top of LPS? If we're comparing Avalon's, why can't I compare my Pacer?! ;)
  • jensadjensad Posts: 388
    Wow! You folks are reminding me to comb my white beard. I indeed remember the 1950 Plymouth "6" my dad and then my mom uses to teach me to drive.

    First car was a 53 Chev. Loved the car. Good memories from a gone bye era.

    Hope all is well with all. Good luck to all and stay safe.

  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    I well remember the Hudson Hornet and the radio commercials..."Step down into a Hudson". My grandfather always drove Buick Roadmasters with the dynaflows and if you rode with him in the front seat you were warned not to get too close to his coffee can (Spitoon) that rested on the hump in the middle. The luxury cars were Cadillacs of course but the owners of the Packards rode in style as well and that one might have been ranked among the Luxury cars but definately not an LPS. Studebacher and Plymouth were common family cars and it was always a kick to see a Nash Ambassader roll by! Hey at 64 it's easy to remember further back to Pre-WW2 cars. Rode around in many of them during the 40's.
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    My friends actually liked the Galaxie. Granted it wasnt a Mustang, but it was a 500, and it was big and loud, which was all you really needed in those days.
  • Mark Cincinnati, it's good to see your words regarding the comparison tests... Cousin offered us a 'green slip' (works for D/Chrysler). We shopped the 300C which I liked, but the boss lady vetoed. I had never even considered a Merc, but, when at their 'store' I saw their E 320 CDI. The only 'green slip' available was for '05. Ordered an '06, knowing, at least a little bit, that Merc had build problems lately. I am a little anxious, and the E320 interior is a big disappointment compared to Audi's, but price, among other things, kept us out of another Audi. I admit my A6 2.7T was the best all around car I've ever had, the TT 3.2DSG was a lot of fun, but I AM an old man, and, finally going with Mercedes.

    Perhaps, in my next life, Audi will regain the respect it deserves as a true world class automobile, and retain its' resale value better. I hope the old lady who got all that money for the lawsuit on 'unintended acceleration' chokes on her wine cork!!
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,238
    Keep us posted when you get your CDI. While Merc quality/reliability issues make me reluctant to follow you, as a diesel fan I'd be very interested in your impressions.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 2,591
    My earliest auto recollection was of my father's Borgward. If I remember, and I was quite a young 'un then, it was red with a cloth, fold back sunroof. My Dad (I'm old, he's older ;) ) always had a place in his heart, and garage, for the slightly off-center car. Saab, before they became cool (and well before GM. I learned to drive in a '71 Saab 99, 4 speed manual with "freewheeling" tranny), Renault Le Car, 1956 MB 300C four door convertible (huge, had to flip the rear view mirror up like a periscope to see above the stacked convertible top). And a Datsun 260Z. Mainstream you say? It was a 2+2 automatic. Ok, not as wacky as the Le Car.

    My mother thought that the Pacer was so cute that every woman in the U.S. would want one. So, instead of the car, she bought AMC stock. Neither, as it turns out, was to be a brilliant investment.

    Fun posts here, I'm a lurker/reader. But only an "Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedan" driver. But maybe some day, if the wife stops shopping... :blush:

    Mark, "God, I'm old." Better than the alternative!

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    The "alternative" is inevitable.
    The E60 is a magnificent machine.
  • . . .or at least it seems that way, since there was substantial dialog about/from the Infinit M buyers. Moreover, the fact that the Mercedes E sells well is hardly represented here.

    Anyone with M's care to give a full report on 5,000, 10,000 or more miles? Ditto some of the other LPS's?

    Inquiring minds. . . .


    My A6 turned 9,000 miles recently and other than the pushbutton starter button issues (the fourth one seems to be holding its own) and the fact that the DSP surround sound settings revert to "normal" from time to time, the car in every other way has been flawless and "most excellent." :shades:
  • docnukemdocnukem Posts: 485
    I have 8k miles now on my M35x. From a driving/handling standpoint, the car has been flawless. Mixed highway/city mpg is at 17.

    I had one of the first cars off the ship, and there have been two bugs. One is a rattle that was coming from the headliner. This was fixed on the second try (but they now need to re-seat one of the two backseat cushions as they did not re-install it completely--the back cusion juts out about 1-2 cm). The other problem is with the driver's seat. At about 6k miles, I began to notice it slip forward about 1/4-1/2 inch with heavy braking. They have a new bracket on order for this (at which time they are planning on fixing the rear-seat as well).

    Some M owners complain about noise. I know this is louder than the GS and RL, but noise (other than the now-fixed rattle) has not been a complaint of mine.

    I find I appreciate the styling more and more. The bourbon interior with the black exterior always gets positive comments (the people at the dealership always say they love the combo, but rarely see it).
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    The death knell was heard month ago and here is confirmation: VW is no longer in the LPS market! The Phaeton will no longer be sold in USA. I believe the same applies to Canada?

    DETROIT -- Volkswagen AG will pull its pricey Phaeton sedan from the U.S. market in February following the car's mediocre reception from American buyers and the company's attempt to focus more intently on offering affordable products.
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