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  • james27james27 Posts: 433
    Most Fords use that mirror attachment, some Chevy's...it may very well have been on cars you've driven (rentals, etc.), but unless you looked, you may never notice. That's the first thing I do is instead of having the shaft pointing down to lower the mirror, I pivot it up to get it as far out of the way as I can.

    A few cars ago, I special ordered an Audi A6 without a sunroof...took months. It had 2.85" more headroom than an identical one with a sunroof. When it became time to replace that car, I checked with the dealer who looked and found 2 cars in the whole country without a sunroof. The way they have the options packages for many cars, some of the desireable options MUST include the sunroof (at the time, you could not get the HID lights except with a package with the sunroof).

    One option I'd like to see more of is a solar panel powered ventillation system...the brighter the sun, the faster it moves the hot air out of the car. Hassle is, if it is there, the few that do offer it, put the solar cells in the sunroof, which usurps all that headroom!
  • kgarykgary Posts: 180
    One option I'd like to see more of is a solar panel powered ventillation system...the brighter the sun, the faster it moves the hot air out of the car. Hassle is, if it is there, the few that do offer it, put the solar cells in the sunroof, which usurps all that headroom!

    I have the solar sunroof in my dark blue A6 4.2 and it is wonderful at keeping the interior cool in the summer. But it is a very rare option.
  • lovemyclklovemyclk Posts: 351
    Well, this is a very specialized car, but the new M3 Coupe has a carbon fiber roof w/o a sunroof option! It is, however, available on the M3 Sedan.
  • james27james27 Posts: 433
    Well, if you are willing to wait, since almost nobody orders them from the factory that way, many of the cars in this category can be had without a sunroof, but then you will NOT be able to get much of any options, since it is included or mandatory with most packages. I know it is a pain, and understand the ecconomies of scale, but really liked the huge option lists and checkboxes of old -you could then pick and choose exactly what you wanted. Pushing the envelope to obtain fuel economy means lower cars with more swept back rooflines. Throw in a mandatory sunroof, and you've eliminated a fair amount of people that actually fit in them. As noted, on the last car, an Audi A6 from late last decade, the difference was 2.85". That's huge.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,084
    My A6 2005 lease is over in 30 days -- I will keep the car 6 months from a few days ago when I placed an order for a new A4 B8 -- I'll of course still hang around here and other car forums, but I will officially be moving to the NEAR-LPS neighborhood in the next few months.

    All things considered, the new A4 will be way too close in size, lux and performance to the current A6 which is not due for replacement for at least another year, to justify paying more essentially for "about the same," in my circumstances (no kids, two small dogs and my wife to transport.)

    I ordered the Audi drive select which ough to make this car, "interesting" in terms of performance.
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,526
    Best of luck with the A4!
    - Ray
    Drooling over the R8 this AM at the auto show.....
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    All things considered, the new A4 will be way too close in size, lux and performance to the current A6 which is not due for replacement for at least another year, to justify paying more essentially for "about the same," in my circumstances (no kids, two small dogs and my wife to transport.)

    Congrats on the new car. The new A4 is really nice, though it were me, I would've held out for whatever Audi ends up doing with either a 300hp version of the 3.2, or the 3.0T. I own my LS though, so I have the luxury of holding on to it until I'm ready to buy again.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,084
    I don't have the luxury of time. . . . :cry:
  • kgarykgary Posts: 180
    I don't have the luxury of time. . . .

    How about a lease end buy-out and waiting for the new A6? We need to come up with a way to keep you and your contributions on the forum. You will be missed.
  • fonefixerfonefixer Posts: 247
    What made you go with the Audi? It appears that BMW and INFINITI were close contenders in your last lease period. I'm assuming your new A4 will also be leased?
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,084
    Infiniti, last time, actually got a $1,500 deposit out of me, a sold order car and I almost left Audi -- they simply came back, from out of no where and a car that had been almost $200 per month more was reduced in price to LESS than the Infiniti.

    I had NOT been happy with the fact that both BMW's 5 and Infiniti's M were "as high or higher" in content and, in the case of the Bimmer, a bigger MSRP -- but less money per month.

    I was, at the time, fully ready to drive off in a new Infiniti.

    This time, the CTS, the Infiniti's (again) and somewhat a new Bimmer seemed contenders -- the 2008 A6 with the only real differnce being the backup camera was aced out by the new 2009 A4 -- the wheelbase of the new A4 is about 1" less than the A6, the technology in the new A4 is the leader of the Audi family, including the A5. The A6 has at least one more year before any significant change -- and the Q5 would, too, be unavailable in time.

    Soo, yes the new one will be leased. I ordered the 19" sport package, Premium Plus, Audi drive select, backup camera, nav, etc etc etc --Phantom black with beige sport seats, bla bla bla.

    I also really went out on a limb -- I ordered the new 2.0TFSI since at 258 pound feet of torque it seemed the V6 with 243 (at a higher rpm) was out-gunned. I assume this one will be no more than $46K (about 7K less than my A6.)

    Hey, maybe I'll hate it -- or maybe it will make we lust for the replacement A6 which will certainly have all this new tech PLUS MORE in it when it finally comes to market in, what 2010 or 2011?

    Chris Collinsworth's R8 was at the dealer today -- RED! What a sweet car.

    Now, for my $100K+, I'd go for a fully tricked out S8.

    In the mean time, perhaps this will be my slightly smaller, higher performing, A6 3.2 -- the new A4 that is.

    No reason I can't participate here, despite my taking, as some would say, a step back or down in "segment."

    This will not be my last car, by far -- it probably won't be my last Audi.

    I simply like the Audi family -- my 2005 A6 has been darn near flawless and always fun to drive. Best one yet in terms of fit, finish and quality.

    Looking forward to more in the 2009 Audi A4 quattro.

    I'll keep you all posted.
  • renssilsrenssils Posts: 24
    My memory is fuzzy, but a GM engineer recently told me that the current Cadillac satnav is made either by Alpine or by Pioneer.
  • anthonypanthonyp Posts: 1,857
    Hi Mark

    This is like `old times`, and I look forward to your review of the new car.....I use to think at one time that `say` a bmw 3 was a step down fron say a bmw 5, but over they years I have concluded they are just different cars --both good--but for different needs....I think the Audi is in the same boat, and knowing your depth of knowledge with Audi, what`s this number 20+ , ? , your choice is well researched....Congradulations, and good luck Tony
  • kgarykgary Posts: 180
    Gas prices go up and nobody even talks about the LPS market. It has been 6 weeks since anyone has posted. Has everyone sold their V8s? Am I the only one left? Even at $4.65 a gallon, I still enjoy my German V8.
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,938
    You're not the only one. I'm still enjoying mine, too. Admittedly, I don't do nearly as many leisure drives as I used to. I think things fell off in here partly because a lot of the guys have family/household financial obligations and having an LPS to begin with was already stretching the budget. I guess the gas prices finally tipped them over the edge. Probably why the hybrid talk is so rampant amongst the people you'd least expect to worry about it, the HELC, Luxury Lounge, LPS posters. :(
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    Has everyone sold their V8s? Am I the only one left? Even at $4.65 a gallon, I still enjoy my German V8.

    Actually, I just moved up from a V8 to a new German V10 :) This is the LPS board, and the segment is midway into the model cycle. There isn't a lot of "news" happening. I expect things will pick up when there's a new 5 or M.
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,938
    ... There isn't a lot of "news" happening. ...

    What about the buzz over the new F10 5-series, upcoming A6 redesign, GS-F, (scheduled) new E-class, the recently released XF, etc.? There's plenty of "news" out there. Where is everyone hiding? :confuse:
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 2,625
    "Where is everyone hiding?"

    Maybe the question is not "where," but "from whom...!" ;)

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,084
    We need something new to talk about. The new A6's super charged engine is interesting, but it isn't here yet and there is little buzz anywhere about this -- in the Audi world the buzz, right now, is about the upcoming A4.
  • kgarykgary Posts: 180
    Mark it is great to hear from you. Are you still in the A6 or have you taken delivery on the A4? If so, what is the report on the A4? I agree that the lack of buzz on the 2009 facelifted A6 is kind of strange. But then again Audi has never quite figured out the US PR game.
  • dhamiltondhamilton Posts: 873
    are being hush hush about it for sure.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,084
    Never thought I say this, month 38 of the 2005 A6 -- it is as tight as it was new, or it sure seems to be. The interior shows no signs of wear either.

    I am hopeful the new '09 A4 is the next step up!
  • kgarykgary Posts: 180
    I am 40 months, and 47,000 miles, into my 05 4.2 and it feels as tight as it did day one. Once I got over the elctrical/MMI gremlins, the car has also been pretty much trouble free.

    When do you take delivery of the A4? What engine are you getting?
  • fonefixerfonefixer Posts: 247
    Mark-

    Somewhat surprised you opted for the '09 A4 instead of the new BMW "blue" diesels coming out about the same time. Isn't clean diesel the wave of the future?
  • kgarykgary Posts: 180
    After owning 4,768 straight Audis, ok the number is more like 25, I don't think Mark is genetically capable of buying anything else. I have seen Mark at the meetings for AA -- Audi Anonymous -- and he always stands up and says "Hi, my name is Mark and and I am an Audiholic". I am suprised that he was able to quit the A6 and go with the A4. I am guessing that his sponsor does not want him going cold turkey and thought that a transition would be easier. ;)
  • dhamiltondhamilton Posts: 873
    is the current Audi poster child. They should use him in a national TV add or something.

    I agree with the reason he went with the A4. It's a more logical choice at this time.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,084
    My wife has her second, in a row, BMW X3 -- a 2008 fully decked, this time, GASP, with an auto trans.

    As a side note, she has the new uprated i6 engine -- now at 5,000 miles, this is one very nice engine. Perhaps, I dare say, nicer than the Audi 3.2. Say it ain't so.

    In any case. . .

    I can, from time to time, get my non-Audi fix -- I remain, therefore a proud member of AA.

    It's been 38 months since my last new Audi -- I'm due.

    The current A6 vs the soon to be A4 -- just didn't seem much of a contest -- at least perhaps until the A6 gets the workover and the new supercharged engine. Then there's that pesky issue of $5, $6 or higher gasoline.

    Yep the diesel would've been sweet -- but just now coming on line: readily available diesel. We're getting better, but just not there yet. Besides, the new 2.0TFSI has more HP and more torque over the sweet spot of RPM's (under 4,500) that most of us can -- practically speaking -- use.

    I may like less frequent fill ups.

    BTW, I did test the CTS several times, but it just seemed to be a step backwards from the 2005 A6 (and the STS was even moreso.)

    Drove a car, on test, that I liked, a lot: BMW X6, but for $70K it seemed a "why bother" when compared with the X5 for less money right beside it. If the price would drop -- I think the BMW X6 might just be -- "temporarily" (until the next one comes along from somebody) -- the new Batmobile.

    See you at the AA meetings.
  • dhamiltondhamilton Posts: 873
    Audi fan myself [but I sell BMW'S] I just got a 335 sedan with manual. FUN CAR!
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    Drove a car, on test, that I liked, a lot: BMW X6, but for $70K it seemed a "why bother" when compared with the X5 for less money right beside it. If the price would drop -- I think the BMW X6 might just be -- "temporarily" (until the next one comes along from somebody) -- the new Batmobile.

    Maybe its just me, but I don't understand the X6 at all. It's like a 335xi coupe with monster truck tires. The proportions are all wrong, and of course the pricing is ridiculous. How's that automatic in your new X3? Any issues?
  • lovemyclklovemyclk Posts: 351
    "Drove a car, on test, that I liked, a lot: BMW X6, but for $70K it seemed a "why bother" when compared with the X5 for less money right beside it. If the price would drop -- I think the BMW X6 might just be -- "temporarily" (until the next one comes along from somebody) -- the new Batmobile."

    I share your passion for Audi's... albeit directed a bit more toward the blue & white Roundel! Audi is rapidly climbing my interest ladder (open admirer of the S5, but supply not aligned with demand right now and the wait for an '09 S5 is Dec/Jan delivery!).

    I found the X6 an equally intriguing ride and fits my personal profile... but the pricing is through the roof! I think this statement is key - "fits my profile"... seems that the X6 is the product of a Marketing mindset looking for further market segmentation. Unsure if this will work in their favor, but it is a quality piece.

    Believe the TTV8 model can hit $80K - $25K more than the excellent 535SP! More than the 550 as well, in which case both 5-Series cars provide the superior driving experience IMO.

    My '03 530SP can still get down the road "real nice" as we say here in the South! Can get from my Atlanta home to my Mom's Orlando home on 1 tank of gas! One of the many reasons I'd have a tough time moving to a new ride at this time... although that TT6 in the 535 is an incredible mill.
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