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Chevrolet Colorado Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • With apologies to Will Rogers...like Ralph Nader and Joan Claybrook, Consumer Reports has never met an automobile they didn't hate.
    Over the last fifteen to twenty years, CR has so obviously become associated (infiltrated?) with neo-paganist earth worshippers, that I would no longer consider taking their "scientific" advice on which toaster to buy, let alone something as technologically advanced as an automobile.
  • jfritschjfritsch Posts: 958
    CR auto surveys (done since 1964?) are the most comprehensive thing the consumer has for auto reliability period. Some faults I guess can be made but the overall picture is probably accurate. Also the difference between the worst quartile and best quartile has shrunk over the years. Perhaps years ago the best quartile dropped 6 transmissions per hundred vehicles and the worst 20 trannys per hundred.
    Now it may be 3 and 10 or so. All quality has improved. Although the worst is still all black dots.

    I cannot believe anyone would buy a Colorado after test driving it to the Tacoma or Frontier. (Only comparing CR figures and jd powers stuff a big mistake, the build quality and robustness diff is tremendous. Colorado nowhere near approaches Silverado, Tacoma or Frontier in quality. Similar 2wd Crew Frontiers were blown out at around 20k or so the last month or two. Tacoma managed to hold up their snotty prices as there are a lot of Toyota freaks that will pay up.

    Frontier and Tacoma have powerful v6's, heavy duty towing, robust build quality etc. Dodge Dakota was tolerable with lifetime powertrain but you need at least 10-12k off its inflated 29-33k msrp to be tolerable. Ridgeline 08 awd v6 at 8-10k off all day is excellent for a 21-23k purchase and may be superior to any 2wd purchase.

    A quick look and test drive at any of them would put the Ridgeline, Powerful Frontier Possibly Tacoma or V8 Dakota well above the miserable Colorado with poor towing an "V5" underpowered engine. Most people would easily see this, regardless of magazine ratings. Body roll with a 250 pound man in the passenger rear crew seat was frightening. Avoid getting tied up with Gm's marketing gimmick cards. You need a full size truck, Silverado fine. Mid size colorado and compact cars are mediocre. You're locked in.

    Am sympathetic to the pinko bent perceived on some other CR stuff with but the auto survey, continued and improved for 40 years has remained relatively pure, with no gross distortions. Most useful and comprehensive survey available regardless.

    Avoid the Colorado, let the test drives be you guide.

    good luck
    --jjf
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    Anyone who is serious about and knows autos/trucks doesn't follow Consumer Reports. The company does its surveys on only its subscribing base to their rag. Who knows why those people are responding to their surveys or why they are not. What are their demographics?

    I would take CR into consideration when it comes to refrigerators, lawnmowers, microwaves, drills, etc., but not auto's.

    CR had their big apology a couple years ago after the company who they outsourced to test child car seats gave an incorrect report in stating 8-11 were bad.

    Car/truck magazines are good sources and JD Power and Wards are also legitimate but leave CR to toasters.
  • catkencatken Posts: 6
    Can yoy get a 5speed man. with the 3.7 . Ken
  • jpfjpf Posts: 496
    If you want more proof the Colorado / Canyon are crappy trucks just check out the discussion under Colorado Engine Problems. Engines self-destructing within 30-50 thousand miles does not inspire confidence in these trucks. GM would have been better off updating the S10 / Sonoma. The 4.3 V6 found in these trucks was more durable than the Colorado /Canyon 3.5 or 3.7.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    I wouldn't say they are crappy trucks at all. I drive a 1992 S10 that I just can't get rid of and yes I agree that the previous models are more heavy duty, It is a known fact based on the towing, etc. The 4.3 L is probably the most durable V6 ever made and the previous generation 2.5 iron duke and 2.8 V6 which I have were very good as well.

    I have driven the Canyon/Colorado's and like them fine. I would get the base four banger. The truck has had some issues for sure with the valve seals and the front suspension but overall its an ok truck. My nephew has a 2005 I5 that has been trouble free. Not all the trucks have defects luckily.
  • Well, I think there is good proof now that not all the engine choices are unsound. I am one of the few that plans to buy one of the '09 Colorados with the V8! Gets as good or better (mostly better) mileage than the competion's V6's get. And 300 hp? 0-60 in less than 7 sec.? And let's not forget what just a mild amount of tweaking can do to improve both power and mpg.
    I am a little turned off by how unrefined the interior is but the truck itself is more than capable and frankly, right now, I would also like to just support an American car manufacturer.
    Anybody else have any thoughts on the V8? I know most think it's pointless at this time in the economy, but that's part of the reason I'm buying, it might be a fairly rare truck if no one else buys the V8.
  • jpfjpf Posts: 496
    You may want to compare it with the Dakota (i.e. 0 to 60, etc.). I think you can get the Dakota with a hemi. Good luck.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    The V8 is really not that bad of a decision mileage wise with this lighter truck to pull around.

    With the whole auto industry suffering (not just American) including Toyota's historical downslide, people are being very cautious with unneccessary purchases. I also feel that people are starting to feel guilty by purchasing Japanese vehicles because they are no better than domestic American products in most segments.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    The Dodge hemi engines are just ok engines. The 440 Magnum engines of the 1960's were Chrysler's prefered engine for racing. The hemi's were unreliable and inefficient. Todays hemi's are much more reliable and efficient but no where as efficient as GM's V8 engines. The hemispherical head design of the hemi is not a good design for mileage.

    That V8 engine option in the Colorado will return much better mileage than a Chrysler Hemi.
  • jfritschjfritsch Posts: 958
    That is silly, many domestic cars are surpassed in quality by "imports". The UAW and congress forced the "domestics" into a corner and they built large trucks, the only place they could make a profit with huge labor costs. UAW will survive, clipping a lower paid workforce in autos for dues.
    They are more competitive in heavy equipment and earthmoving equipment plants where their higher salaries are more justifiable.

    Years and years of making a profit on trucks, and losing money on all the passenger cars, just keeping up market share.

    With 1000's of suppliers everwhere, supplying american workers in "foreign" plants in the south, vs "domestic" in the north, with some auto's (pontiacs vibe and toyota's matrix) actually made in the same plant.

    The only thing that distinguishes them is the chrome plastic emblem on the grille and the trunk, and thats probably made in China.

    The Colorado is the worst example I know of. Any test drive comparison between the Frontier and Tacoma will put them way out front in all areas, especially for the same price. The Dakota V8 possibly if you have to tow, but it may be too expensive. The Colorado ranks just ahead of the 18 year old Ford Ranger, which isn't saying much. Go with the others even if you have a lot of GM points.

    Good luck
    --jjf
  • 04cad04cad Posts: 131
    I guess the UAW and congress forced the imports to build new plants in the U.S. to build their own full size trucks and four wheel drive trucks? Just because the import companies don't have the retiree burden and are more profitable, doesn't make the Big 3 or UAW wrong in having that obligation.

    Until the gas companies raised gas prices to $4.00 per gallon, the Big 3, including GM were doing okay. The UAW has given lots of concessions in the last 20 years to try and make the Big 3 more viable, and the quality of domestic vehicles has shot up, surpassing some imports in the same class of vehicle.

    GM trucks (GMC and Chevrolet) have outsold all trucks in the U.S. for years and years, they have the best mpg in their class today, for years they have had a very high resale value. Malibu is higher rated than the imports in quality and I believe owner satisfaction?

    Canyon and Colorado may have some issues, but if you look at the forums here and elsewhere, their competition have problems also.

    Anti-American sentiments about vehicles or other issues are a big part of what is wrong with our economy today. It isn't enough for some people that the UAW and Big 3 have made huge strides in quality, design, mpg, and durability, while still having a living wage, with decent benefits, some people just like to bash American made products and workers.

    To those who bash the UAW and it's workers, keep in mind, they have donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to the American public over the years through United Way, Christmas donations, thanksgiving food giveaways, gate collections for burn out victims, etc.
  • jfritschjfritsch Posts: 958
    Nobody here bashing the American working man. I know many. I love my Honda built in Ohio. Have a cousin who is a manager for Toyota in Kentucky. I work in America. Both have college degrees who were on the line. Flexible at many tasks, no bloated whales in blue shirts and golf carts drinking coffee (stewards) in their endless pissing contests with management "protecting the worker".

    No 3 skilled trades taking 8 days to coordinate their busy schedules to change a light bulb. No union grievances from some hack finding a saleried man changing his own lightbulb. Union work rules, artificial in many cases to keep headcount high are extinct.

    Those of us who were involved with the U.S industry and saw the UAW are amazed they kept the ball in the air this long. UAW will survive in heavy industry, trucks, heavy equipment where their higher wages can be justified.

    GM trucks (GMC and Chevrolet) have outsold all trucks in the U.S. for years and years, they have the best mpg in their class today, for years they have had a very high resale value. Malibu is higher rated than the imports in quality and I believe owner satisfaction?

    Great trucks-- Silverado and F series can take on all comers.. no doubt. Colorado is a miserable entry to the mid- size market. Problem is they lose money on everything else with this business model. Without the big trucks they are bankrupt.
    Whether the mediocre passenger cars or the better ones like Malibu, the profits aren't there. It's irrelevant what Malibu or others rate, if it can't be sold at a profit and costs are too high.(and you need profits to pay health benefits for employees and retirees. )

    Big fan of the American worker. Big skeptic of many of the 7% or so captive in private sector unions like AFl-CIO, Teamsters, and of course the worst -- UAW.

    Of course the Democrats in Govt who get their cut of union payroll thru dues and political contributions probably didn't help either.

    Good luck
    --jjf

    Anti-American sentiments about vehicles or other issues are a big part of what is wrong with our economy today. It isn't enough for some people that the UAW and Big 3 have made huge strides in quality, design, mpg, and durability, while still having a living wage, with decent benefits, some people just like to bash American made products and workers.

    ...living wage.... decent benefits..... $70/hr labor costs, the most gold plated benefits for high school graduates and retiress out there.... and you're babbling about a "living wage" and "decent" benefits. The average shmuck, many with college is out there for about $28.00/hr union or not.

    because the import companies don't have the retiree burden and are more profitable, doesn't make the Big 3 or UAW wrong in having that obligation

    No, very wrong .....if they're unrealistic there is no obligation. Bankruptcy and bye bye. No company no obligation. This is true whether the retiree on a company pension is union or not.
  • Greetings from Maryland! Today is Saturday, 28 Nov 2009, and I just wanted to post an update to my original message from Sep 2008.

    I have put 23,800 miles on my Colorado, and it has performed very well. No problems or quality issues at all. I average between 21 and 22 MPG with the 5cyl engine. My commute is about 70% highway miles.

    My only complaint is with the seating. In spite of having the eight-way power adjustments, it's tough to get perfectly comfortable. Either my legs are too close to the pedals, or the steering wheel is too far from my hands. But, I've been able to find a position that's an OK compromise.

    All in all, after 15 months, and nearly 24K miles, I'm still pretty darned satisfied with my purchase.

    Respectfully,

    Mike R
  • Some dealers here have 2011 Colorado's on closeout price for 16k - it's a work truck with 4cyl 2.9L and automatic.
    It has cruise - which is really important to me.

    Is it worth 16k? Should I counter offer something else??

    Anybody?? :)
  • Bought a 2004 Colorado new. It is the best truck I have every owned. Has 5 cyl, with 4 whell drive. Have just clocked over 250,000 miles and still running strong. Have not had one major problem.
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