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Chevrolet Colorado Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • jfritschjfritsch Posts: 958
    See if you can work 10000 off msrp for a 07 Dodge Dakota 4x4 v6, (19000 range with lifetime powertrain warranty) or a nissan frontier 4x4 crew 21000-22000 range. A tacoma will cost you at least 23000-24000. The colorado interior an build quality are miserable and you should at least test drive the others to prove it. It would be less for a 2wd.

    The Colorado is the only midsize truck I can find with a powerful 4cyl, double cab, and automatic. Anyone recently get one in that trim, and what did you pay?

    Ford, Nissan, and Toyota don't seem to want business, so why is this forum so dead?
  • bobadbobad Posts: 1,587
    Thanks for the reply jfritsch.

    I want a double cab, strong 4cyl, automatic, and 2wd. I guess the Colorado is the only truck that can deliver all those requirements.

    I would take a V6 if the purchase price and gas mileage weren't more than an I4, but I guess that ain't happenin'.

    I know the Colorado's interior is no great shakes, but I'm not style conscious for work trucks. Are you saying the Colorado's mechanicals are poor? I thought the Vortec 2.9L and Hydramatic were considered rock solid. Am I hearing wrong?

    Thanks,,,
  • jfritschjfritsch Posts: 958
    If you look at the specs, you have an awful heavy truck paired with a 4 cyl. Even the I5 5 cyl colorado is criticized for being underpowered. The reason you can only find one option in a crew cab 4 cyl is that it isn't a good idea.

    If the real world hwy/city mpg of the others would be about 19mpg, I wouldn't trade a weak truck for 22 mpg. The mileage might not even pan out. Check out the new mileage specs for the 08s (which is supposed to be more "realistic") and see. Perhaps there is a real world mpg forum for the colorado like the other vehicles.

    I drove the colorado 4cyl in addition to the others and the body roll (with a 200 lb passenger), handling, build quality and power were miserable. No comparison to the quality of Chev's Big Silverado and other more mid size offerings. Plus with the others you can tow 6000+ pounds.

    Given the choices, I would not buy the 07 4 cyl crew colorado in a 4x4 unless well under 19-20k. A 2wd even less. This is if you have many GM points and need to use them.

    Good luck
    --jjf
  • bobadbobad Posts: 1,587
    Yea, I do have about $2K worth of GM points. :D

    Look, I have an old Toyota that is surprisingly heavy, and has a 105hp 4cyl. Now that truck has always been a dog, and I've lived with it happily for 14 years. I don't need to drive faster than 65mph, I don't need to tow, and I don't need a 0-60 time in under 10 seconds. So I figured the 185hp would be fine.

    I do get your drift about a 4cyl. If you are impatient or tow, a big 4cyl can be less fuel efficient than a small 6cyl. I am concerned with every MPG, considering that gas may be $8 a gallon in 5 years.

    While the power issue doesn't bother me, I am concerned with your comments about build quality. I thought the GM I4, Hydramatic, and driveline were reliable, but apparently you know something I don't. Do you care to elaborate?

    Thanks,,,
  • jfritschjfritsch Posts: 958
    In my drives I was noting the interior quality, body fit and finish, handling, comfort and power.

    As far as statistical quality for mechanics goes, Consumer reports yearly automotive survey at your library has the most comprehensive survey of reliability available.

    Good luck
    --jjf

    Yea, I do have about $2K worth of GM points.

    Look, I have an old Toyota that is surprisingly heavy, and has a 105hp 4cyl. Now that truck has always been a dog, and I've lived with it happily for 14 years. I don't need to drive faster than 65mph, I don't need to tow, and I don't need a 0-60 time in under 10 seconds. So I figured the 185hp would be fine.

    I do get your drift about a 4cyl. If you are impatient or tow, a big 4cyl can be less fuel efficient than a small 6cyl. I am concerned with every MPG, considering that gas may be $8 a gallon in 5 years.

    While the power issue doesn't bother me, I am concerned with your comments about build quality. I thought the GM I4, Hydramatic, and driveline were reliable, but apparently you know something I don't. Do you care to elaborate?

    Thanks,,,
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    I don't consider CR to be a legitimate source for auto info. It's one scandle after another with CR outsourcing drivers seat tests and making a public announcement about the contractor who messed up the test giving 8-11 bad ratings incorrectly. CR bases its owner evaluations off of those who subscribe to the rag so who knows why some of their subscribers respond and why others don't.
  • A left over, never titled 2006 Chevrolet Colorado with a window sticker of $21,230.00 can be mine for $16,500.00 plus tax and title. Is this a fair price?
  • jfritschjfritsch Posts: 958
    Look up your vehicle used on kbb.om or edmunds .com since that is what your car is now for practical purposes. That may be a mediocre price on a new 07 much less an 06.

    Good luck
    --jjf

    A left over, never titled 2006 Chevrolet Colorado with a window sticker of $21,230.00 can be mine for $16,500.00 plus tax and title. Is this a fair price?
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    I would try to get at least another $500 off.
  • I never throught I would buy a Colorado because the automotive press has always been so hard on them, but the deals over the past few weeks were too good to resist. Frankly, once I test drove one, it was clear the press had really exaggerated any drawbacks compared to the Tacoma. Also, after reading on the internet about Tacoma's un-resolved "engine surge" issues and the company's refusal to acknowledge them, I really soured on getting one of those. I had also considered Nissan's Frontier, but the company's reliability record has been generally no better (or worse) than Chevy's on JD Powers surveys the past few years, so I couldn't justify the higher price. Basically, the small-sized GM trucks started looking better and better, and the massive incenrtives finally enticed me. Anyhow, I digress. Here was my buying experience on Sunday, 21 September 2008.

    I did massive research on he internet, so I walked in knowing exactly what I wanted, and exactly what I was willing to pay. I found exactly what I was looking for and called the dealer up to make sure it was still in-stock - a 2008, Colorado Crew Cab, LT, 5 Cyl, RWD, in Dark Ruby pretty well "loaded" with:
    - Leather seats & Leather wrapped steering wheel
    - Power seats (both passenger & driver)
    - Heated seats
    - Side air bags
    - Power windows, locks and mirrors
    - Sunroof/moonroof
    - 6-disc,CD changer w/ XM & MP3
    - Sliding rear window
    - Chrome wheels (basically extra-shiney "alloy" wheels)
    - Onstar
    - Bedliner
    - probably a couple of things I'm forgetting

    MSRP was 27,5XX, GM Employee price was 24,7XX, minus $1,500 "cash back" it came to $23,265, and after subtracting an additional $1,500 in GM credit-card discounts, it came to $21,765. Unfortunately sales tax was $1,800, which pretty much wiped out my GM-card benefits - Maryland sucks for sales tax.

    The dealer's finance guy got us 4.9% interest over 60 months thru BoA (which beat my bank's pre-approved 5.44%).

    I'd newer used this dealer before (Ourisman Rockmont, in Rockville MD), but they were fine, and very efficient. The entire process from walking in, to driving home took about 1hr 20 minutes.

    So far, so good. I'm happy with my purchase. We'll see how it holds up over time; maybe I'll post a follow up in a few months.

    Regards,

    Mike R.
  • With apologies to Will Rogers...like Ralph Nader and Joan Claybrook, Consumer Reports has never met an automobile they didn't hate.
    Over the last fifteen to twenty years, CR has so obviously become associated (infiltrated?) with neo-paganist earth worshippers, that I would no longer consider taking their "scientific" advice on which toaster to buy, let alone something as technologically advanced as an automobile.
  • jfritschjfritsch Posts: 958
    CR auto surveys (done since 1964?) are the most comprehensive thing the consumer has for auto reliability period. Some faults I guess can be made but the overall picture is probably accurate. Also the difference between the worst quartile and best quartile has shrunk over the years. Perhaps years ago the best quartile dropped 6 transmissions per hundred vehicles and the worst 20 trannys per hundred.
    Now it may be 3 and 10 or so. All quality has improved. Although the worst is still all black dots.

    I cannot believe anyone would buy a Colorado after test driving it to the Tacoma or Frontier. (Only comparing CR figures and jd powers stuff a big mistake, the build quality and robustness diff is tremendous. Colorado nowhere near approaches Silverado, Tacoma or Frontier in quality. Similar 2wd Crew Frontiers were blown out at around 20k or so the last month or two. Tacoma managed to hold up their snotty prices as there are a lot of Toyota freaks that will pay up.

    Frontier and Tacoma have powerful v6's, heavy duty towing, robust build quality etc. Dodge Dakota was tolerable with lifetime powertrain but you need at least 10-12k off its inflated 29-33k msrp to be tolerable. Ridgeline 08 awd v6 at 8-10k off all day is excellent for a 21-23k purchase and may be superior to any 2wd purchase.

    A quick look and test drive at any of them would put the Ridgeline, Powerful Frontier Possibly Tacoma or V8 Dakota well above the miserable Colorado with poor towing an "V5" underpowered engine. Most people would easily see this, regardless of magazine ratings. Body roll with a 250 pound man in the passenger rear crew seat was frightening. Avoid getting tied up with Gm's marketing gimmick cards. You need a full size truck, Silverado fine. Mid size colorado and compact cars are mediocre. You're locked in.

    Am sympathetic to the pinko bent perceived on some other CR stuff with but the auto survey, continued and improved for 40 years has remained relatively pure, with no gross distortions. Most useful and comprehensive survey available regardless.

    Avoid the Colorado, let the test drives be you guide.

    good luck
    --jjf
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    Anyone who is serious about and knows autos/trucks doesn't follow Consumer Reports. The company does its surveys on only its subscribing base to their rag. Who knows why those people are responding to their surveys or why they are not. What are their demographics?

    I would take CR into consideration when it comes to refrigerators, lawnmowers, microwaves, drills, etc., but not auto's.

    CR had their big apology a couple years ago after the company who they outsourced to test child car seats gave an incorrect report in stating 8-11 were bad.

    Car/truck magazines are good sources and JD Power and Wards are also legitimate but leave CR to toasters.
  • catkencatken Posts: 6
    Can yoy get a 5speed man. with the 3.7 . Ken
  • jpfjpf Posts: 496
    If you want more proof the Colorado / Canyon are crappy trucks just check out the discussion under Colorado Engine Problems. Engines self-destructing within 30-50 thousand miles does not inspire confidence in these trucks. GM would have been better off updating the S10 / Sonoma. The 4.3 V6 found in these trucks was more durable than the Colorado /Canyon 3.5 or 3.7.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    I wouldn't say they are crappy trucks at all. I drive a 1992 S10 that I just can't get rid of and yes I agree that the previous models are more heavy duty, It is a known fact based on the towing, etc. The 4.3 L is probably the most durable V6 ever made and the previous generation 2.5 iron duke and 2.8 V6 which I have were very good as well.

    I have driven the Canyon/Colorado's and like them fine. I would get the base four banger. The truck has had some issues for sure with the valve seals and the front suspension but overall its an ok truck. My nephew has a 2005 I5 that has been trouble free. Not all the trucks have defects luckily.
  • Well, I think there is good proof now that not all the engine choices are unsound. I am one of the few that plans to buy one of the '09 Colorados with the V8! Gets as good or better (mostly better) mileage than the competion's V6's get. And 300 hp? 0-60 in less than 7 sec.? And let's not forget what just a mild amount of tweaking can do to improve both power and mpg.
    I am a little turned off by how unrefined the interior is but the truck itself is more than capable and frankly, right now, I would also like to just support an American car manufacturer.
    Anybody else have any thoughts on the V8? I know most think it's pointless at this time in the economy, but that's part of the reason I'm buying, it might be a fairly rare truck if no one else buys the V8.
  • jpfjpf Posts: 496
    You may want to compare it with the Dakota (i.e. 0 to 60, etc.). I think you can get the Dakota with a hemi. Good luck.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    The V8 is really not that bad of a decision mileage wise with this lighter truck to pull around.

    With the whole auto industry suffering (not just American) including Toyota's historical downslide, people are being very cautious with unneccessary purchases. I also feel that people are starting to feel guilty by purchasing Japanese vehicles because they are no better than domestic American products in most segments.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    The Dodge hemi engines are just ok engines. The 440 Magnum engines of the 1960's were Chrysler's prefered engine for racing. The hemi's were unreliable and inefficient. Todays hemi's are much more reliable and efficient but no where as efficient as GM's V8 engines. The hemispherical head design of the hemi is not a good design for mileage.

    That V8 engine option in the Colorado will return much better mileage than a Chrysler Hemi.
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