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Land Rover LR3

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  • nesuvnesuv Posts: 10
    I just bought front and rear flaps from the dealer, $80.73 apiece. I put the front 2 on in about 15 mins. They attach using the existing 3 screws in the molding on each side. The rear 2 come with additional hardware but I haven't put them on because it was too damn cold out!
  • mark156mark156 Posts: 1,992
    Wow, the mud flaps seem rather expensive but about what I paid to have them installed on the 2002 ML500 that I traded for the LR3.

    I know I've said this before but for those of you who now have the mud flaps, just be careful going over rocks, snow drifts, ice formations because the mud flaps aren't flexible. I broke my front drivers side on the Mercedes while "off roading" and almost lost a back one. The back mud flaps (on the Mercedes) are attacked to the rear bumper cover and I didn't want to lose that!

    If the LR's mud flaps were flexible, I would buy them but since they are not, I'm really afraid that I will lose one since I will go off-road occasionally.

    Just my .02 worth. Mark :D
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,109
    Believe me, it's a feat rarely observed.

    Indeed! I can attest to that. And I noticed you didn't spell it "feet!." ;)

    tidester, host
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    As I said before, I haven't broken them off yet in 13 months... even doing pretty hard off-road stuff. You really can't use your ML500 mud guard experience as proof they'll break something on the LR3. :) Even if a mud guard broke, it really wouldn't do any damage to anything else on the LR3.
  • mark156mark156 Posts: 1,992
    Grommet, I'm glad you haven't broken one and probably never will. Also, the LR3 can raise up so that might make all the diffrence in the world when off roading.

    Another thing that happend to me, I like to back-in a parking spot sometimes and I almost broke a mud flap then too. The curb was really high and, thank goodness, I stopped before I broke the rear mud flap. Once I got out and saw it, I had to pull the vehicle up as it was pressing really hard on the mud flap. :sick:

    Because of that experience, (for me), I'll pass on the mud flaps. It's just one thing I won't have to worry about. As far as rock chips, etc, the lower trim pieces are plastic, as you know, so I feel protected there.

    Happy Off-Roading to all! Mark :)
  • hey guys, can i go on a long trip (4 hours or so constant driving at about 65-70 mph) before finishing the breaking-in period (of about 600 miles). The drive is gonna be around high altitude freeways around mountains and stuff, so the engine will be working a little bit.

    grommet, i know you mentioned that i should not worry about the break-in too much and just drive nice and easy for a bit, but what about driving nice and easy but for a constant long time like 4 or 5 hours.
  • Michael, you get my 2006 award for the correct spelling and usage of 'brake' and 'break' in a motoring related forum, and what's more impressive is that you used them both in the same sentence!

    Oh, good to hear that. My typing is bad (brain faster than fingers), but my spelling is excellent... I have a real bee in my bonnet about spelling, if you will forgive the punny metaphor!
  • No problem at all, sure you can go on this trip. Good idea in fact. Just vary the speed somewhat: instead of 4 hours at 65mph, so 30 minutes at 60, then 10 at 65, then 45 at 70, and so on.
  • mark156mark156 Posts: 1,992
    I'll be going on a driving trip starting Friday. It will be a 26 hour trip to California covering 1,900 miles. It will take about 4 or 5 days to go there depending on how much ground I want to cover. I currently have about 750 miles on the Rover now after one month of ownership.

    Once about 10 years ago, I drove the same trip with only one night on the road. I will never do that again! I drove about 10 hours the first day and 16 the second.... wow, I was tired!

    I try to do the trip rather leisurely and just stop when I feel like it. My buddy will be going with me and I'll leave the Land Rover at my other house for about a year until I have to bring it back to my home state for tag renewal. Even with the long trip every December and January, I'll only put about 10,000-12,000 miles on the vehicle per year.

    Mark :)
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=businessNews&storyID=2006-01- - - -09T021355Z_01_HO907951_RTRUKOC_0_US-AUTOS-WHIPLASH.xml

    "Seats in only six vehicles -- all SUVs -- earned the highest rating in the IIHS analysis, including the Ford Freestyle, Honda Pilot, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Land Rover LR3, Subaru Forester, and Volvo XC90."

    Now you know why some people don't like the head restraints: They are safe. :shades:
  • I saw the blurb on the news last night but they only mentinoned the vehicles that got poor ratings not the ones that did well. Those headrests are very good and once you get used to them you actually kind of like how they hold your head or at least I do.

    Here is the direct URL for the test.

    LR3 Test
  • Now you know why some people don't like the head restraints: They are safe

    No: I don't like them because they push my head forward and give me a headache. They are ridiculous and should be at least an inch further back.

    This is an emperor withouth clothes: these headrests are supremely uncomfortable because they push my head forward an inch. All the government rules, safety reports, and good intentions do not change that: I say again, THEY ARE UNCOMFORTABLE AND GIVE ME A HEADACHE. THAT is why I do not like them, not whether they are or are not safe. They give me a headache.

    And when you read the article you see:

    ...geometry (distance behind and below the head of a seated average-size man)

    So these monstrosities are made for "the average-sized man", and they are NOT adjustable. How dumb is that? If you are not average sized or shaped, tough.

    That is just bad thinking - which I presume is why most other car makers quite rightly ignored it.
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    michael, don't hold back. :D So, what's this I hear you about you not liking the head restraints? ;)

    Did you have your LR3 head restraints modified by a 3rd party?

    From your 1 year review, you stated "The seats are perfect for driving long distances. I can easily drive 12 hours (and did that after a business meeting yesterday) without getting at all tired." and make no mention of your comfort issue with the head restraint.
  • tdo123tdo123 Posts: 102
    I know it really comes down to personal preference, but is the beige outselling the ebony on the darker colors? My choice is black with beige, and it seems like all of you are getting them with beige, but my dealer only seems to be getting ebony on the inventory. Unless of course the beige ones are getting sold so early!
  • I have had the cross bars for since purchase (about 46k miles). IMHO lots of road noise with these. You might try the round bars that kkone suggested.
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    tdo123, the dealers normally have choice of what color combinations they order. So, they pretty much steer what you see and what they sell... Some combinations are rarely ordered by dealers or customers. (Green with Black, for example.) It's about 50/50 here in general.
  • I have had my covers for about 11 months. All three rows. They fit very tightly, though do need adjusting every other month or so. The middle seat cover for the 2nd row requires removal and replacement of the seatbelt mount. Have the dealer do it for you, it took about 90 seconds.
  • "From your 1 year review, you stated "The seats are perfect for driving long distances. I can easily drive 12 hours (and did that after a business meeting yesterday) without getting at all tired." and make no mention of your comfort issue with the head restraint."

    Nah, I've not had them modified - I live with them by tilting back the seat back further than I would like.

    So the seats are fine! It's just the headrests. The seats means the surface, firmness, shape etc of the seats. And indeed they don't tire me at all. The headrests on the other hand push me when I do not want to be pushed, so I have to drive with the seat back way back. Yes, it is doable.. but I must say - and you picked this up very well :-) - that indeed I resent having to do this because the LR3 designers have decided I must not have an adjustment option!
  • ron504ron504 Posts: 9
    I have been comparing SUV's for a few months as my RX330 lease is up in two months. I had narrowed to the Volvo XC90, Lexus GX470, and 4Runner Limited (I realize the 4Runner is a little off but I actually liked it better than the Lexus). Then I drove the LR3HSE and really liked it. My concerns are fuel economy, power lag (My test drive was around town), and reliability questions. Not so sure it's better for the price. The 4Runner would satisfy my needs but the LR3 is so attractive and so much more forward. The GX470 just didn't impress me, especially that rear door. The Volvo has a few features that appear a little cheap and, although I am quite impressed by how comfortable and safe I felt, it just didn't seem very brawny. Please let me know your thoughts and maybe while your'e at it just make my decision for me. Thanks!!!
  • Recipe for fun - 29 degrees F, 25 mph wind, 24 inches of ice, and about 20 Land Rovers - LR3, RRS, RR, Defenders...

    Yesterday my dealer, Flatirons LR in CO, sponsored the first event of 2006 - Ice Racing on Georgetown (CO) Lake.

    This was insane! My wife entered the women's division and took second (missed first because of my backseat driving). I only took fourth in the men's division (should have listened to her tips).

    These three ton behemoths handle very well on ice. I am running Nokian WR SUV tires after the stocks wore to the threads. If you do not try to push these vehicles to the limit you will never truly understand the incredible value you got for your hard earned money. Running the LR3 on ice proved that technology can control this monster on the slickest surface around. I am even more confident in the safety of this vehicle after this weekend.

    I hope your dealer strives to give you as much of the "experience" as mine does.

    A few pics:
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    Don't go over the dam!

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    And they're off!
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    ron504, use search... I'm pretty sure those exact cars have been discussed this in this very forum multiple times, not to mention their own respective vehicle forums.

    Did you compare to the V8 version of the XC90? If you don't need any hardcore off-road or any of the unique features of LR3, it's a good alternative bet -- and pretty quick. And if you're really keeping the 4Runner on the list, you might as well add a common '06 Explorer, too. :P If fuel economy is a real concern, you might as well cross off LR3 as it's probably the worst of the bunch due to it's heaviest-in-class build... but they're all pretty bad. If you really care, you need a different class of vehicle...
  • mark156mark156 Posts: 1,992
    Ron504, I purchased a 2006 LR3 HSE about a month ago. I did the same comparisons that you did by comparing 3 vehicles. Mine were the LR3, Jeep Commander and the Volvo XC90. One of my main criteria was it needed a comfortable 3rd seat. The LR3 was best followed by the Volvo and then the Jeep.

    Pricewise, the LR3 and the XC90 were neck and neck the Jeep Commander was about $10,000 cheaper (MSRP).

    I did not compare the Toyota 4 Runner so I cannot say anything about that one. The Volvo had very short sunvisors with no adjustment once you move them to the side (I think I'm the only consumer that it bothered). Secondly, the nav screen pops out of the dash and seemed smaller than the LR3. Also it was tilted forward and I'm not sure if it adjusted because I didn't touch it. It just so happened when I was looking at the Volvo that the sun was hitting the dash; I could not read most of the instruments on the center console. The nav controls are on the back of the steering wheel. If you have a passenger that would like to control the nav, they said there was a remote the passenger could use. To me, that sounded like the nav was an after thought.

    Compared to the LR3, I found the Volvo's second row seat difficult to fold over to get into the third seat. Maybe I wasn't doing it right but it worked perfect for the LR3 the first time I flipped it up.

    The Commander came up short in so many area's for me. The third seat was the tightest and the rear load floor was raised 3 or 4 inches when all the seats were folded down. And, the dash looks cheap to me. It has wood grain but it's all below the big plastic part running across the dash. (I added the wood dash to my LR3 and it looks great)

    The Jeep passenger seat is only a "4 way" automatic. It will not raise or lower, only back and forth movement. I didn't like all of the "bolt" design from the dash to the wheel moldings and even in the headlights. But, the Commander does have a good drivetrain and strong engine.

    The Lexus GX470 lost immediately with the "big" swing-out back door. If you are in your garage and if it's a standard size, you will have to open the garage door to get anything out of the back because there will not be enough room for the big Lexus door to open. The hanging third seats get in the way compared to the other three vehicle I just mentioned.

    Good luck on your search! I think the LR3 will win!

    Mark :D
  • sohna99sohna99 Posts: 50
    When I bought my LR3 V6 SE from dealer in sept'05, he told me that V6 doesn't come with navigation system. Is this true? Is it possible I can get installed or its not a good idea? Any input will be appreciated.
  • sohna99sohna99 Posts: 50
    I use to filled up my LR3 from safeway gas because of closer and convienent but last time I filled up from 76 and noticed improvement in avg milage even though driving under same condiotions and in town.
    Did you guys see any difference too?
    Which one you guys think is the best fuel from all the different stations?

    Thanks in advance.
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    Navigation is factory only and yes, the dealer is correct, it's not available on V6 trims in North America. If you want some sort of Navigation, you'll need to use a third party product -- talk to a custom shop, or slap a portable one on the dash.
  • Get the tom tom system it is pretty good and the monitor fits right in the cubby where the factory navigation goes.
  • ron504ron504 Posts: 9
    Mark, Thanks for your help. I agree with most of your views. I found the Volvo seat configurations a little easier to deal with than you. I am considering the SE with Cold Climate Pkg, Lighting Pkg. & rear parking, Integrated telephone and the HSE with everything. About a $5,000 difference.Ron
  • kkonekkone Posts: 61
    British Rover:

    I have been looking for a Nav system to fit into my LR3 as I did not purchase one (and wish I did). Which Tom Tom model is the one that fits well? Do you have that system in your LR3? Do you have pics to post or e-mail?

    Thanks,
    Kevin
  • pandboypandboy Posts: 28
    A local dealer has an used LR3 V8SE with Nav 5 seat and lighting package, but no cold and towing packages, 5000 miles. I tested a couple of times, really liked it, although there is check engine light on but promised will be fixed. Otherwise, the SUV is in excellent conditions. After reading about many electric problems with the model, I am reluctant to pull the trigger since the closed LR dealer is 100 miles away. The price is at $36K. Worth gambling on it :confuse:
  • mark156mark156 Posts: 1,992
    Pandboy, I wouldn't worry about the engine light because the vehicle is under warranty. Did the dealer say why the vehicle was traded (assuming it's a 2005)? Was it a buy-back?

    I'm hoping my 2006 LR3 HSE doesn't give me any problems but my dealer is only a few miles away. I would have to say if my dealer was 100 miles away, I would have to think long and hard about driving that far for service. I think I would pass on a Land Rover product because of the distance.

    Mark
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