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Land Rover LR3

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  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    On more time (last time hopefully): The fuel filler door does not lock when the doors are locked in North America. The actual locking mechanism is not there, even though there is space for it. In other markets (like the UK, where fuel costs more than a fine wine), it does lock with the doors... just like our Audi.

     

    The old Discovery had a "remote release" -- the current LR3 has nothing. You just push the door, it opens up.
  • ronprxronprx Posts: 24
    Grommet - Do you work for Land Rover corp or at a dealer. I have talked to two different dealers, Thousand Oaks and South Bay and neither have heard about the suspension failures and or the stalling issues. Are they holding back or are these very isolated issues?

     

    Ron
  • "The good news is that I will now have 2 attempts at fixing this truck under my belt and will be one failed attempt away from the lemon law!"

     

    Thanks for the follow-up. Hopefully LR "techline" will put on their thinking caps for round two. As you said, you will be close to the lemon limit on this. If they have to buy back the vehicle, I think it will send a stronger message than anything else, and you won't be out a chunk of cash.
  • "I induced a failure by trying to start the ignition without a fuse in the box to see what would happen."

     

    Which fuse did you remove, and why did you try it?
  • I just want to clear the code. The diagnostic port operates on a CAN bus and I probably need a CAN reader tool. I was hoping that there was an ignition sequence or some way to clear the code without having to bother the dealership.
  • Fuel theft and other security related issues are always some possibility but, they not the point here. We should get what we were told we were going to get at the time of purchase. I am making this point to the dealer.
  • trm2trm2 Posts: 42
    Just a coincidence, but when people mentioned that their faults involved: shutdown of all systems; flashers on; and/or fuel pump failure, it struck my memory.

     

    Again, it may be just a coincidence, but I believe the inertia switch does all 3 of those things in a collision. Possible that it is a loose, bad connection, or something similar involving that switch or the chip(s) downstream of it. If LR hasn't come up with an answer yet, maybe a look at this is warranted.
  • kscctsksccts Posts: 140
    Yeah! You tell 'em! Yeesh!
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    If your dealer "lied" or misrepresented a vehicle feature to you, definitely have a strong conversation with them. But do remember that people do make mistakes. In the world of Land Rover misinformation, it's pretty hard to keep things straight. Caveat Emptor.
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    ron, no... I'm just a LR3 victim. ;) I personally haven't had any suspension failures or stalling, nor any other significant issues.

     

    The dealers I've spoken to supposedly haven't had any reports, either... well, that they will tell me. I don't think they have a reason to hide anything from me; I've always had a good relationship with them. I'm also in California (Northern, around S.F.) -- so who knows... maybe having mild weather constantly makes a difference. ;)
  • trm2trm2 Posts: 42
    After thinking of this, I looked on "google" (just to complete the hypothesis)-- lots of hits including:

     

    "With age and especially in climates with extreme temperature changes, the inertia switch can fail all by itself. The spring lock mechanism that holds the button down can rust or become stretched, and the button will pop up at will. I have found that this usually happens on a very cold winter night."

     

    So maybe the cold climate WOULD have an effect on sensitivity of this switch, especially when the car is at an angle, or stopping (or both).
  • The error code on the display and the engine warning icon are both gone. I am sure that it is still logged. I am guessing that the code must disappear after enough engine on/off cycles, I would guess that it was 5-10 times.
  • The salesman told me that it would lock when I asked him why it did not lock. I guess he had no idea. The point was made to LRNA than anyone else and it had to be made through the dealer.
  • gw123gw123 Posts: 64
    For the record, my stalls have all occurred in the hills near SFO.
  • So I took my LR3 back to the dealer tonight. The NAV started working again! Yay! On the way there, I got another suspension fault around 60 MPH, and then it went away when I slowed down. The warning light went away until I got back up to 50 or so. I then got off the highway and over the course of 5 miles on a road where I never got above 40 MPH, it went on and off 3 times - some times it was so bad that the truck bounced up and down like in a rap video! And the truck definitely pulls to the right now. I was given another loaner (a new black LR3 SE this time!) and as I was walking out, the guy behind the counter yells out "make sure you bring it back with the same amount of fuel in it" with more than a little attitude. I was pretty annoyed with this after such good service and simply said "yeah, make sure my LR3 has the same amount of gas too." When I called the service guy, he said they were having a pow-wow about what to do with me. It was my salesman, service manager, sales manager, service rep, and the guy that serviced my car all talking about what to do. They claimed they felt terrible about all of this and have not seen it before. I honestly am impressed with their concern and genuine sympathy they have for me except for the one guy making the fuel comment. Anyway, I will find out some more info tomorrow and let you know where things stand.

     

    Scott
  • Who said I would be representing myself? ;) Anyway, again, I have no reason to believe that any legal action will have to be taken because this is such a common problem that Land Rover absolutely will find a universal answer and repair to the stalling issue. Having had many of them, I can say that notwitstanding the naysayers, this is one of Land Rover's best-ever products, if not the best at this price.
  • nwxnwx Posts: 21
    Gosh, I love this forum. Every time I check it I'm not sure what I'll be reading next. It's like watching a cinematic suspense thriller.........or horror movie!
  • highenderhighender Posts: 1,362
    people.

     

    the LR3 is a great car...SUV of the year for Motor Trend

     

    but like many vehicles...the first few years will have some teething problems and will need some ironing out by the makers...

     

    to make you guys feel better,,.the Porsche cayenne also has some quality issues , including stalling, nav, cardan shaft, alignment and tire premature wear, remote, radio, etc....

     

    so hang in there....look at the bright side....
  • "It was my salesman, service manager, sales manager, service rep, and the guy that serviced my car all talking about what to do."

     

    I'm glad to hear they seem to be taking this seriously. I wouldn't be surprised if they want to have your car for at least a few days to test it more thoroughly this time. At least you have an LR3 loaner.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    I think that the past few weeks posts just go to reinforce the maxim that purchasing the first build of any new model might put you in the position of a beta software tester. It's just the risk you take to be the first on the block.

     

    These problems are almost inevitable........it's the way that they're taken care of that will put the stamp on this model's future. I'm waiting until the '06 becomes available before making a final decision.
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