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Land Rover LR3

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  • >>>Which stock tires to you have?

    Goodyear Wrangler HP's, also.
  • tdo123tdo123 Posts: 102
    Mark

    I have been waiting to hear how you liked your test drive. I have been following your reviews on the different boards because I am comparing the same vehicles.

    Glad to hear you loved it. I also like the Jeep a lot, but the LR3 offers so much more. i.e. Room, luxury, etc.

    Don't forget to let me know what the dashboard looks like at night. I have got to know!
  • mark156mark156 Posts: 1,992
    Tdo123 (Tim), I researched for one solid month before making my decision. I picked up a brochure for each vehicle and read them cover to cover (LR3, XC90, Commander). Originally, I was really hot for the Commander and I still think it's a nice vehicle as I have had two Jeep Grand Cherokee's in the past ('96 and '99).

    I need third seat room. The Volvo was better than the Jeep but not by much. When the Jeep's third seat is folded down, the floor is rather tall. I also need good storage when the third seat is folded down. You would not believe the storage space in the LR3. It is enormous!

    I also like the way the third seats lock in place providing a totally flat area. If anyone is in the third seat, they are able to get out on their own. In my ML, I had to "let" them out. In the LR3, there is a latch on top of the second row seat to bend the seat over then there is a loop to pull at the bottom of the seat to allow it to flip up allowing a person to exit. This can be done on either side as the second row is divided 35/30/35.

    I may have the sunroof glass tinted darker as there is not a solid cover to keep the sun out. The "shade" that you pull to close the sunroof is made of a material that has small holes in it. It's that way for all three sunroofs as each row has their own. Only the front one opens.

    As far as the dash, I don't find anything unusual as it seems nice. I'm glad that the radio and navigation are on separate systems. The ML had them together.

    Another neat feature is the key fob... you have a choice as what you want the "Land Rover" emblem to do. There is a button to unlock the doors as there is one to lock them. The Land Rover emblem can be programed to do three things.
    1) It will illuminate the front headlights with on hit, a second hit will then light up the reverse lights.
    2) You can programme (British spelling :P ) the fob to activate the burglar alarm.
    2) Or, you can select for the LR3 to raise or lower. If you press on the Land Rover emblem and the 'Lock' feature at the same time, the vehicle will raise, if you press the 'unlock' feature in conjunction with the Land Rover emblem, it will lower.

    SO, you have a nice choice on what will work for you. I selected to have the lights come on. There is a lever on the inside console that will allow you to raise or lower the vehicle which I like better. The "lighting" feature works for me better than the other choices.

    Mark :shades:
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    FYI: The remote suspension raise and lower function only works if you turn on the Emergency flashers... yes, a safety lockout. It's intended to assist when hooking up a trailer and not much more.
  • Cavender LR in San Antonio found the problem. Apparently a connector, located in the front passenger kick panel, that goes to the fuse box had gotten water in it and corroded. They replaced the connector(both ends) and the problem was solved.
  • mark156mark156 Posts: 1,992
    Grommet (do you have a best friend named Wallace?)...

    Anyway, yes, you are correct, the flashers have to be operating to use the key fob suspension for raising/lowering the LR3. I'm still reading the manual and learning more and more.

    When the turning signal is on, occasionally, it will make a warning noise which I assume to let you know it has been left on. I wish I could turn off that feature. I'll have to check in the manual to see if it's a choice.

    I really like the feel of this vehicle; the ride, steering, etc. It feels very solid.

    Mark
  • I am looking at the LR3 and 07 Escalade. I was all set on an Escalade until I looked at the LR3 online. Our closest dealer is 2 hours away so I am trying to decide if this would be a wise choice due to repairs and service. It seems that those of you who have LR3's are happy with them and do not have any major problems with them. Due to LR being part of Ford could I take it to my local Ford dealership for service? Also, I have three boys and what is the leg room like between the 2nd and 3rd seat. I am driving a Burb right now and I like all the room. Any comments you have would be appreciated.
  • This week Colorado was blessed with more snow and temperatures below 0 F. I was in TX all week and my wife had the LR3. After the second day of snow, the windshield washer fluid stopped pumping. Needless to say, driving was dangerous with all the road grime being kicked up. My wife drove straight to the dealer and left 45 minutes later with a new washer fluid pump installed. Our service manager even sent her on her way without completing the paperwork as both of my young children were with her and eagerly awaiting lunch.

    That is the service I paid for when I bought this truck. If you don't receive it at your dealership, tell them to step it up!

    Anybody else having problems with this pump? We are at about 45k miles.
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    No, you need a Land Rover dealer... Ford mechanics are trained on Ford branded vehicles. Yes, Ford owns Land Rover now... but it's still a Land Rover. ;)

    The leg room is excellent in my opinion. The 3rd row can handle 6' adults fairly comfortably. However, "wide" folks may not be too comfortable in any of the rear seats. This is not a Suburban or an Escalade; it's the same size (externally) as a Ford Explorer. It's just very efficient, partially due to the boxy design.
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    No, Wallace is Gromit's best friend. ;) Mark, no idea what you mean about the warning noise with the turn signal... I've never experienced anything like that. What does it sound like and what do you "do" to reproduce it?
  • mark156mark156 Posts: 1,992
    esvcaddy... I agree with Grommet as stated above.

    Keep in mind, if I'm not mistaken, that the Escalade will not have "fold flat" third seats. If it's like the previous design, they will flip over but not flat.

    That was the strong selling point for the LR3 for me, the full size third seat and when it's folded, I have a huge area to carry things and the seats are completely hidden. And, there is a cover to hide everything.

    I like the new pics of the 2007 Escalade, it should be a wonderful seller. If I have a lot of trouble with my LR3, the Escalade might pop to the top of my list.

    Mark
  • mark156mark156 Posts: 1,992
    Grommet, the warning that I hear when the turning signal is on is a "ding" sound. The same ding as if you had the "speedometer warning" set. When this happens, there is no message on the dash read-out.

    I'll try and pay more attention when this happens to see if it's from something else.

    Mark
  • mark156mark156 Posts: 1,992
    The dashboard has black faces for the speedometer and tach. The color behind the instruments is a light "apple green" which is very pleasant.

    Mark
  • tdo123tdo123 Posts: 102
    Great!! Thanks for the update on the dash. We always look at the cars in the daytime and one doesn't always think about what it looks like at night!!

    I am thrilled to hear you are so happy with it. The XC90 was also high on my list, but I think that the LR3 offers so much more.

    Another car I really like was the VW Touareg. What a great ride also, but we need the 3 rows with our family and I was scared of the problems that I have been reading about.

    I am waiting to see if LR is going to offer any end of 2005 incentives and I then I am going to get one myself.

    Good luck with it!!!
  • I am looking at a New 2005HSE7, 0 miles with an ivoice date of June 2005 at a Land Rover Dealership(Salesmen sent me copy of invoice with numbers blacked out). The adaptive headlights option is not listed as an option, but the pictures of the LR3 show's it has the headlight in the moving ball device. I am confused can anybody help me with this one?

    Thank you,
    Shawn :confuse:
  • Even without adaptive headlights the HSE still has Auto Leveling Bi-Xenon. It is pretty much impossible to tell if a car has addaptive headlights or just bi-Xenons just but looking at the head lights in the off position.
  • Hello British Rover,

    Oh same housing but differnt functionailty..mmmm. I remember seeing some early build SE's that did not have the "ball housing" look, but just a simple headlight housing look (Same as current V6 headlights). That is what confused me!
  • brithish rover, could you please explain what you mean by Auto Leveling Bi-Xenon. Does that mean that without the Adaptive pkg the lights move/rotate only vertically (depending on the speed or tilt of the vehicle), and that the Adaptive pkg only adds left or right/horizontal rotation capability?
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    Bi-Xenon headlights were an "option" on SE, as part of the Lighting Package. Without it, it would be the normal headlights. It has nothing to do with "early build SE."

    There are 3 levels of lighting, with Adaptive only being available on HSE. (Optional in '05, forced on you in '06.)

    The Bi-Xenon headlights aren't Adaptive at. They are just auto-leveling... they don't actively move "up and down." Anyway, personally I can't tell much of a difference in the real world.
  • I have test driven the 2006 LR3 several times, and have decided this is the vehicle I want. I am now having a difficult time selecting the features, and I was hoping people could chime in with advice in regards to the Navigation and adaptive Lights on the HSE.

    The SE Model I am considering has all but Nav, Adap. Lights, and cooler box (as well as the upgrade in stereo, seat Mem & 19" wheels that are standard on the HSE)

    The HSE model steps up with all but the heavy duty package but weighs in at 5k more. I have seen a few nav comments on the board, but none that really help make the decision. I have seen many factory Navs that aren't worth $750 let alone $2500,and does the stereo upgrade/adap. lights really add value?

    Is the HSE package really worth the extra 5k?

    Thanks in advance.

    Sean
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    sean16, you are the one who needs to decide on "worth." We have no idea what your needs are.

    Will you use/need Navigation? Do you travel a lot? I already commented about the Adaptive headlights, which I do have, in the previous message; I don't think it adds much. I'm sure some think it's "cool." The HSE stereo isn't much better than the SE one; both are lacking from a "high-end" point of view. Of course, it's subjective.
  • Hello,

    I just purchased a 2005HSE7. I went for the HSE because of the Navigation (off road capabilities and I travel alot), 8 way power seat :D and memory instead of 6 way, 550watt stereo, and hopefully better resale since HSE7's are harder to find (at least right now). Mine does not have the adaptive headlights. I also prefer the 19 wheels. I do offroad alot so I hope the 19 inch wheels do not prove a mistake. I currently own a 99 DiscoII seven seat. I have 3 girls under 6 so, thats I went 7 seater
  • :confuse: So just so I do not confuse myself. Grommet I do understand that you do not see much of difference regarding the adaptive headlights in providing a better night driving experience but cosmeticaly, since I got an HSE7 without the adaptiveheadlights, can you tell the difference from and HSE with adaptive headlights? Same housings but one just does not move?
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    pbrover, 2006 has 8-way drivers for non-HSE now; this was improved due to feedback.

    Right... I've driven one with non-Adaptive headlights and it doesn't seem to help that much over the Bi-Xenon. Yes, it pretty much looks the same externally just sitting there.

    I'm starting to see more HSEs, since almost all recent '06 builds for here were HSE...
  • Grommet,

    Thanks for the response. I do travel quite a bit, but typically know where I am going. My main concern is the quality of the nav in the HSE, since many factory installed models are so basic and come with a high price tag (IE I can pay 600 for a garmin with a 20 gig hard drive that reroutes me when their is traffic congestion). So if the other features that come in the HSE package are really not worth it (IE stereo, ice bucket and adap. lights) and the nav is just so so, then I would most likely opt out for an after market nav. I think I saw a post from someone who has one? any feedback appreciated.

    Thanks!
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    Also, post your '05 deal in the LR3 Prices Paid forum, if you don't mind... I assume people should be getting good deals on '05 by now!
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    I like the Navigation system... personally I think it's pretty good. But you should try it yourself. I'm sure some people prefer other style interfaces. This one was designed with Denso, so it'll be similar to other brands that use Denso... Lexus, Jaguar, etc.

    It won't reroute automatically because, well, there is no way for it to know if there is congestion. That feature isn't common in North America; the cars that do have it seem to use satellite XM Radio traffic info, which is a pay service. You can tell it to reroute, though.
  • grommet, will the system re-route automatically if it detects that you have gone offcourse? A few weeks ago i had rented an LR3 (an SE) from Hertz and it had Hertz add-on nav system which i think they have on pretty much all of there fleet. That system basically re-routed me every time i decided to run errands and varied from the course a little here and there during my trip. Also, along the way came a construction zone where i had to take a detour without any clear signs, etc. That automatic re-routing feature came in very handy at that time.
  • It automatically reroutes when you go off course. Also it has an off-road setting which features topo maps, allows setting of way points and has a track back feature.
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    Yes, as roverine said, it will recalcuate the route if you deviate from the planned path.
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