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Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

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  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    Yes we do. I'm pretty sure Lemko and I both have Grand Marquis currently.

    The new Avalon is actually quite a departure from the older models. It is a bit smaller and based on some owner reports here on Edmunds, it rides much firmer than previous models. Sign of the times, I guess. It looks like a nice car except for the big mouth bass grill, that is similar to the Fusion. I hope that trend goes away soon.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,568
    I am surprised Andre doesn't have a 70s TC out in his back 40.

    The new Avalon is certainly homely from the front, but I bet it rides and drives nicer than a Camry. Loaded up though, would be tough not to simply move over to an ES - at least I'd get a free snack while waiting for the car at service time :shades:
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    I bought an Avalon twice over the ES mostly because it was a bigger car. Now that they are the same size, it would be hard to pick the Avalon over the ES. I'm sure if you keep the options list short the ES isn't that much more expensive than the Avalon.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,568
    ES might have more standard, too. Dealer experience might seal the deal - local Lexus place is pretty swanky, Toyota dealer is what one would expect.

    A co-worker who is my age drives an ES - she loves it. Mostly just because of the features and reliability - it's near 100K now (07), zero issues.
  • jpp5862jpp5862 NCPosts: 326
    Which is precisely why you should keep it. :)
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    When I first saw my grandmother's 1991 Town Car, I fell in love with it. I still have a soft spot for those things, but I used to dream of owning that car some day. Oddly enough, the other car I really liked at the same time was on the opposite end of the spectrum.... a 1992 Geo Tracker. :blush:

    Of course, I ended up with my '69 Econoline van (which was a hand-me-down) and still have that silly thing. Yeah, I'm a youngin' too.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    Looks nice on the inside, but pretty homely on the outside. That said, the inside is where the driver spends his time... :shades:
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    1991 Town Car

    91 was the year the LTC got the 4.6L. It was a big step-up in power. My Grandfather had a 93 LTC Cartier. The seats were amazing!

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    edited February 2013
    Yeah, I recall it as being a fairly peppy car; it certainly rode well over rough roads! She was a real estate broker, and many times the houses in south-central Alaska were down pot-holed gravel roads. That car soaked them up like they weren't even there. She was pretty good at flogging the throttle, too. After the first time she cut the rear tires loose out of a stop light, we started referring to her as "Hot Rod Grandma." Her excuse (acting surprised) was that her '85 (LTC, too) just didn't have that much pep.

    That was before the days of rampant acronyms, otherwise I'm sure we could have come up with something fitting. :P
  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,108
    I always loved the 91 and up Towncars. I was 13 when they came out and I thought it was quite beautiful for the time, with a traditional luxury car presence. It's still one of my favorite styled large cars.

    2007 BMW 328i Sports Pkg, 1993 Honda Accord EXR (my 33rd car).

  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,636
    Sorry hosts...I edited my "bad" post so here's the "clean" version!

    I know we've been moving cars from Miami to Tampa airport since last Thursday and tomorrow is our last day if things do not change which I suspect they will. I suspect 75% of our work is done with Hertz. Hertz is a client of the company I work for and we do move a load of their iron. I'm truly amazed at what a well oiled machine it is with these rental company's and their logistics. And Hertz does seem to have a varied selection of vehicles to choose from. I especially like their Emerald Club offerings...many nice Mercedes products and other high zoot vehicles.

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,636
    While driving over to Tampa in a Chevy Equinox, got the dreaded call from the wife..."the check engine light came on the other day", something I didn't want to hear. Canceled the detail and will go to Auto Zone first thing to get a read out of what the problem could be. Hopefully it won't be a very expensive fix. If it is something major, well, I already told her that she'd just have to park it at my daughters apartment for awhile and use the Accent as the kid lives across the street from school so doesn't drive it. They drive it once a week to grocery shop. Depending on what's wrong and the cost factor will depend how long she'll use the kids car as I don't want to put major bucks into a car with 117k miles on it now. Best idea would be to either trade it or sell it outright and possibly share the daughters car as the wife spends 3 nights a week down there anyways...her clients are pretty close so makes no sense to drive 28 miles when she can go to the other place and drive 5. My idea was that if we do end up dumping the Mazda3s and she does not want a '13 model would be to cancel the Mazda's insurance and just put the kids car on our policy for a few months until the 14's debut.

    This is all speculation at this point as we have no idea what is wrong. Could be the gas cap or something serious. Once we find out, we'll make the appropriate decision...there has to be a point where throwing $ into a vehicle isn't worth it any more. And we do have the other option of just taking over the Accent and canceling one insurance policy for the time being. Not even thinking about car shopping yet, but I am planning on taking the Kia test drive tomorrow if there is time. I bet we could get a screaming deal on a leftover model right now with the end of month and all. Interesting quandry here but something tells me this is gonna be a simple and easy fix with little cash outlay...and that wouls suit me just fine also!

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    I know it's impossible to not speculate over the worst case scenarios, but I'm sure it will work out to be just another maintenance item, if more than a hiccup at all. Keep in mind that even if it does cost a few bucks, it costs far less to keep that car running than replacing it with anything else.
  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 1,371
    it costs far less to keep that car running than replacing it with anything else.

    What? CCBA security will now escort you to the exit....
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,287
    people hand you cars all the time.

    Just take one home. It will take ages before Hertz figures out they are short one.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,923
    The key is to take one home that they haven't given you. Should be easy enough. ;)

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,568
    edited February 2013
    Got the new fuel door for the new car today - old one wouldn't align right and apparently there's a TSB about them being warped. New one fits a lot better, but the paint quality on it is pretty poor - paint on the car is nearly flawless, several small flaws (dimples) on this fuel door, which leads me to believe it was painted locally. I am probably going to go back and discuss this within the week.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,287
    good point. I say, now that he knows the drill, to just sneak in to a run he is not working at, and make off with one of the cars. Wear a disguise, and if no one notices him, could be a long time before they figure it out!

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,287
    parts like that normally are shipped unpainted, so yeah, a kid in the body shop probably threw the paint on it. Good luck getting that worked out!

    No one ever said being a perfectionist was going to be easy.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,636
    edited February 2013
    Absolutely! They really cross reference everything so they know exactly who has what at all times. Like your idea and there are some really sweet rides that I could see us driving for a long time. Went onto Kelly Blue Book and I figure her car is in good to fair condition with the upper limit being $4400 and the lower one at $3500 when traded in. Personally, I think this car could get more as a private sale...it's FAST and except for a couple of small dings and some hail dimples and headlights that are hazed over, could be a great 1st car for some kid and I bet the dentless paint guys could get it looking brand new for maybe $500. The paint is still glossy as it's had no major structural work and aside from the small dents & dings, dimples and hazed headlights, the car looks good! It just needs a good detail also which I have canceled for tomorrow. Since getting the new motor mounts, it purrs like new and though the a/c isn't working 100%, it still works. For someone who needs a vehicle for not a lot of $, this is that car!

    A major drawback is I've never done a private sale. My f-i-l did it for our Buick Skylark back in 1985 and he sold it pretty quickly in Miami. Not sure I really want to deal with all this but it might be worth it in the long run if we do get offered crap money from a dealer. And here in Florida, we have the sales tax difference when trading in, not even sure this would go to auction with that many miles. But we'll have to wait and see exactly what the problem is. Personally, I think we'd both be happy if it's something very minor/inexpensive and be able to keep it for another year as I'm so busy at my so called "part time" job and tax season in full swing...this is just a crappy time for this to happen to us! Our ace in the hole is we have access to our kid's Accent if we decide to just sit on this issue for awhile so no real emergency here. As much as I love cars, I'm just not ready to do all that's necessary to buy right now. This won't get me expelled from here I hope as we will eventually but that new car...just not right now!

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,568
    Funny thing. Immediately after typing that, I hopped in the car and went back (dealer is under 10 mins away in normal traffic). They probably think I am crazy, but did see the flaws, and say they will order another - and it is indeed painted locally. Hopefully this will be better. I am pleased with the paint on the car itself - I went over it very closely the other day, and found only the tiniest flaw, which would be hidden to a normal person because of the white paint.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,154
    Paint to match stuff can be really good; the dealer just needs to get an experienced person on the job.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,568
    The color was fine (the white is pretty standard) - my problem is the finish. I am expecting the new one to be acceptable. I could deal with a flaw, just not 10 or 20 of them (there are that many).
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,287
    Sandy, odds are even if it is something more than a gas cap, if the car is running normally, you can just ignore the light for a while. Somethings might be vital, but not always.

    you will probably end up needing to fix it anyway, since selling a car with the CEL on is much harder, and slaughters your sale price.

    So get it checked, and let us know.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,154
    edited February 2013
    The paint is usually easy, it all comes out of the computer pump gizmo. It's the prep and application that's key, and that boils down to the person doing the job. My friend in the truck canopy business had a gem of a painter and the truck caps he did looked factory or better than OEM. A couple of other guys he had were okay, but sometimes they had to redo stuff.

    Sandy, lots of auto parts stores will pull codes for free. If you get a code, that can at least narrow the issue down to the system that's reporting the problem.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,287
    If the benz is some kind of pearl color, that can be a nightmare to match right. Especially in white.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,154
    edited February 2013
    Yeah, there were always a few colors, even in the F-150 or Silverados that the cap store saw that were tougher to do. But a good shop can likely manage fine. I always enjoyed watching them put the paint code in the dispenser machine and seeing the color come out. Seems like they used a PPG system. They could do small quantities to match mirror housings and other small parts.

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  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    I had two pearl white cars and both needed a little body work. The body shop allowed extra hours to blend it properly. It is a three stage process (at least on Toyota's "Blizzard Pearl")

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,287
    blending in is the key. And exactly what you can't do on a stand-alone piece like a gas cap lid.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,087
    "91 was the year the LTC got the 4.6L. It was a big step-up in power."

    But it may have had teething issues.
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