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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,094
    Subaru has a really nice pearl white, which is surprising. I've seen it on a new BR-Z and a new STi.

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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,776
    edited February 2013
    The tricoat stuff does sound tricky. (terrys.net)

    Good thing Fin's new ride is a diesel so he won't have to fill up and look at the fuel door more than once every other month. :D

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,134
    "blending in is the key. And exactly what you can't do on a stand-alone piece like a gas cap lid."

    Yup, the front bumper on my white metallic Altima was repainted before I bought it. The color is slightly off and it's chipping along the bottom. Not worth the headache of paying to have it repainted (which probably still wouldn't make it completely right).
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,773
    It's a non-metallic white, I know they can match it. I just want the finish to match the car. Over the weekend I went over every panel gap and piece of paint - everything is fine save for the fuel door. I trust they will get it right this time - a normal person probably wouldn't have complained about the first issue. But, first new car, I am OCD, etc.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    edited February 2013
    But it may have had teething issues.

    The early 4.6s (91-92.5) were unique in two ways. One they actually are referred to as "[non-permissible content removed] blocks" they have different bellhousings than any other 4.6 models. They will mount up to an AOD transmission where the 92.5+ have a different bolt pattern for the AODE and later 4R70W.

    Second, they did have valve stem seal issues once over 100K. It was a relatively simple repair and will stop the cloud of blue smoke.

    The 4.6 also earned some bad press in the late 90s/early 2000s when Ford decided a plastic coolant crossover tube on the intake manifold was a good idea.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    edited February 2013
    Subaru has a really nice pearl white

    My buddy's dad bought a Legacy in that color, it really is quite nice.

    Edit: Satin White Pearl is the name.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,499
  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,108
    Yeah for sure get it repainted, or if the next one is not up to par, ask them to pull one off another same colored E Class assuming that one won't be warped either. :shades:

    It's not like you bought a used car or some low end of the market polymer bodied Saturn, so don't feel bad about being OCD about the fuel cap.

    2007 BMW 328i Sports Pkg, 1993 Honda Accord EXR (my 33rd car).

  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,773
    I bet I will have the new part by Friday or Saturday - I will inspect it before I drive off. I hope the car has no other issues - they will eventually get tired of seeing me :shades:

    Overall, I am pleased with the fit and finish of the car. I went over it very closely over the weekend (gave it a rub down with cleaner wax and then a coat of Meguiars NXT) - all panel gaps are excellent, only one tiny paint dimple to be found - it could easily have escaped scrutiny. Inside, everything is perfectly assembled.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,562
    Just take one home. It will take ages before Hertz figures out they are short one.

    Back in 2007 I covered the the US press launch of the then-new 3 Series convertible for Roundel magazine. It was held in south Florida and I had what is called a drive-away- a press loaner which I drove home and would keep for @10 days whereupon a transport company comes and picks it up. The company usually calls a couple of days before picking it up- usually on a Friday for a Monday pick-up. Friday comes and goes- no call. Finally on Wednesday I call BMW NA's press liaison and ask him if he's ever going to pick up the car. He tells me that he forgot I had a car and that they wouldn't be able to pick it up for 6-10 days. Which is how I got to drive a 335i droptop for 3 weeks- even before they were released to the dealers... :D

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  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,677
    I wish I would get that lucky! Seriously, there's a few cars I'd love to have for an extended period of time!
    They checked the code at Auto Zone and then went to my mechanic who thought it might be the gas cap and said why throw parts at the car. So he cleared the code and said let's see what happens as the car drives like new except the a/c is a little wacky...only really works on fan speed 3 and 4. So far, the light has not reappeared so we'll see. My re-balance and rotation went well and decided to get another 3 year alignment policy for the car and I negotiated a good price with a free oil change and then had a money off coupon. Now the car tracks very straight and true so I'm thrilled. Will do the oil change next month at the year mark as I still have 50% oil life left. Headliner folks came almost 5 hours late so they reduced the price by 25% and it looks awesome with a smell that could wake the dead! Told me to leave the windows open all night and it should disappear.

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,499
    Hah! That's pretty sweet. I could have gone cross-continent (and back) in that time. I imagine you might have, too, had you known up front that three weeks was in the cards! :shades:
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,773
    edited February 2013
    That's awesome. Time to call in sick and take a road trip!

    My fuel door is now fixed - attentive service advisor called me and arranged for me to take it to the body shop they patronize. Got it in and out in half an hour, paint flaws are gone. Pretty good service from the dealer so far.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,562
    I could have gone cross-continent (and back) in that time. I imagine you might have, too, had you known up front that three weeks was in the cards!

    Actually, I worked a road trip into the story; I left South Beach on Friday morning and drove up to Jacksonville and picked up my wife and son at the airport. We drove to Jekyll to spend the night then drove to Asheville NC the next day. We stayed at a B&B and drove back to Kentucky on Sunday.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,562
    Can you tell me why this 2003 CL55 is only $19K? I'm thinking it is the Stuttgart equivalent of a BMW 650- crammed with of electronics/electromechanical bits that cost a fortune to repair when they go Tango Uniform. Sure is handsome, though...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,108
    edited February 2013
    That's just the market value for these. You can probably find a lot of them in this price range.

    2007 BMW 328i Sports Pkg, 1993 Honda Accord EXR (my 33rd car).

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    a/c is a little wacky

    Sell before it gets hot and buyers notice!

    Sorry, this is CCB, needing tires is a good enough reason to trade up.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,405
    edited February 2013
    Yup. I was looking around at AMGs just a week or so ago, just to see what the market is like. There is no shortage of "cheap" ones.

    That's a particularly nice color, though.

    I will tell you that an "above average" black one with 52k got $21,500 at auction in Orlando about a week ago. So it could be a good deal if its clean. All others had over 100k miles, so not much to go on.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    First major repair will double the cost. ;)
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,773
    edited February 2013
    Pretty fair price if the car has no crash history. 10 year old car with airmatic - if it has already been attended to, might not be so bad, but that and ABC (if the car has it) are expensive problem areas. Pretty color, car doesn't appear to be a full option load (no keyless go, doesn't appear to have parktronic), aftermarket nav is in the COMAND spot - I would like to see how it functions with the existing systems. A full inspection would be important. 03 is the first year for that exact model.

    If I wanted a hot rod car from that era, I might save up a little money and go for a V12 AMG, maintenance will still be monstrous, but it's like a jet on wheels.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Here's a cost threshold that may help some folks convince the bean counter in the family they can afford a new car:

    http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2013/02/most-median-income-americans-cant-aff- ord-new-cars.html

    Washington, D.C. -> that's me
    Affordable Purchase Price: $31,940
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $628 -> seems high

    San Francisco
    Affordable Purchase Price: $26,786
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $537

    Boston
    Affordable Purchase Price: $26,025
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $507

    Baltimore
    Affordable Purchase Price: $24,079
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $468

    Minneapolis
    Affordable Purchase Price: $24,042
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $470

    Seattle
    Affordable Purchase Price: $22,963
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $466

    Portland
    Affordable Purchase Price: $21,985
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $397

    Denver
    Affordable Purchase Price: $21,835
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $432

    San Diego
    Affordable Purchase Price: $21,781
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $433

    New York City
    Affordable Purchase Price: $21,464
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $431

    Philadelphia
    Affordable Purchase Price: $21,069
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $419

    Chicago
    Affordable Purchase Price: $20,616
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $417

    Los Angeles
    Affordable Purchase Price: $20,385
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $410

    Sacramento
    Affordable Purchase Price: $19,965
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $397

    Dallas
    Affordable Purchase Price: $19,959
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $389

    Houston
    Affordable Purchase Price: $19,811
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $386

    Milwaukee
    Affordable Purchase Price: $19,297
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $373

    Atlanta
    Affordable Purchase Price: $19,122
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $376

    St. Louis
    Affordable Purchase Price: $18,550
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $371

    Pittsburgh
    Affordable Purchase Price: $17,298
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $340

    Phoenix
    Affordable Purchase Price: $17,243
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $348

    San Antonio
    Affordable Purchase Price: $17,137
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $334

    Detroit
    Affordable Purchase Price: $17,093
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $332

    Miami
    Affordable Purchase Price: $15,188
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $295

    Tampa
    Affordable Purchase Price: $14,516
    Maximum Monthly Payment: $282
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,405
    I wonder if that 10% number they invented is based on gross or net income.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,776
    edited February 2013
    Yooperland
    Affordable Purchase Price: $951
    Maximum Monthly Payment: eggs, logs, split firewood, honey, snow plowing, deer steaks, fresh fish.

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Funny.

    Hey, what cars can you get for $14.5k?

    Sucks to be in Tampa.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,776
    Versa?

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Fitzmall has an Accent for $14,587. Close enough, and you actually get Direct Injection.

    Slim pickins.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    2009 Altima 55K
    2012 Cruze 32K
    2011 Mazda 3 35K
    2006 ES 330 83K
    2011 Impala 39K
    2009 Mini Cooper S 52K
    2013 Sonic LS New
    2013 Dart SE New

    A few interesting choices there. Big discount on the Dart.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,773
    10% of income? Spending "too much"? Sounds subjective to me. "Overall income"? Funny term. Also, lease - seems a lot of people rush to jump back on the payment ball and chain once they get the title anyway (I held off a few years).

    I can't believe someone was paid to write that. Also nice stock photo of a MB dealer ca. 2000-2001.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Some times you gotta just let go and have fun with the data, know what I mean?
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,773
    If everyone spent less than 10% of their "overall" income on cars, it would be a painfully dull world, as even the old cars would be boring. Now that I have a car payment again, payment + insurance + fuel + old car will easily go past 10%, and I am fine with that. Anything to sell a story, I suppose.
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