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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 7,253

    Hello folks!

    Had the volunteer party for the golf tournament I'm working next week. Saw some of the cars we'll be driving:

    X4

    X5

    X6

    435i Gran Coupe

    3-series

    There was a trailer full of i3's waiting to be unloaded and a couple of i8's in the parking lot .. I suspect those will be for display on the grounds next week.

    Also saw a RR (BMW owned) in the parking lot as well. Wonder which lucky exec gets to drive that?

    It all starts Monday afternoon for me .. will be working 1-11PM, then 6AM-10PM on Tuesday, as the players who qualify fly in from Boston. I think our duties will be split between retrieving players and shuttling cars to hotels and meeting the players for the courtesy car handoff.

    I missed the official training .. can someone provide a quick explanation of how the BMW 'beer tap' gear shift works?

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,763

    Apply the brakes, push the button on the left side of the tap, move it forward for reverse and back for drive(so intuitive, no?). Push the top button to place the car in park. A textbook example of the Germanic penchant for fixing something that wasn't even remotely broken...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 7,253

    @roadburner said: Apply the brakes, push the button on the left side of the tap, move it forward for reverse and back for drive(so intuitive, no?). Push the top button to place the car in park. A textbook example of the Germanic penchant for fixing something that wasn't even remotely broken...

    Thanks for being up so late to answer my simple question. No difference between models, I assume. Same with iDrive - it's all the same regardless of which model I am driving?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,599
    I'm not understanding that MS3 lease. So let's assume it was a 5-yr lease? With a $13k buyout at the end? And $345/mo? I just can't get there. It doesn't add up.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,763
    edited August 31

    @‌Michaell Yes, the iDrive now works essentially the same across the model range. The iDrive knob is now surrounded by several direct access buttons, which makes navigating the system infinitely easier.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 15,412

    Saw my sil last night. The one with the dead odyssey. She finally got test drives done and has decided she wants and (apparently) can afford a forester. Mid level model with pano roof, which should sticker at about 25.8k. So I need to work on pricing, etc. and go test drive it myself! Hey, I am officially in market too.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (daughters college car)

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,476

    @qbrozen said: I'm not understanding that MS3 lease. So let's assume it was a 5-yr lease? With a $13k buyout at the end? And $345/mo? I just can't get there. It doesn't add up.

    I couldn't either... I think maybe it was a used car when the guy leased it.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,645

    Every 16 year old's first car should be made out of solid rubber and be as utterly boring and un-cool as possible. If you carry that far enough, uncool becomes cool. ANYWAY...... If I were this young person, I'd just get "anything decent" for the first year, and postpone the "car of my dreams" reverie for a year or two down the road, after they've gotten their sea legs behind the wheel (rudder? sorry for the mixed metaphor) :) It will also be easier for them to sneak a Mustang or hot hatch into their insurance policy once they've proven that they can steer around large objects. They'll also know a helluva lot more about cars.

    @roadburner said: I recommended an older Miata; inexpensive to buy/own/maintain and a true sports car to boot.

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  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,737

    I drove the 2013 328i at work the other day and thought the auto tranny shifter was way more complicated than necessary. I did, however, love the instantaneous burst of power when in Sport mode...that rush when I hit the accelerator was something I've never quite felt before in any automobile I've ever driven. For that alone I could see owning one. Unfortunately, I never got the same "rush" from the 1 Series I drove last year so maybe they have different engines or shifters. All I know is I came home and told the wife that I could learn to love owning a 328i and funny thing is, I don't even know if the one I drove had a 6 or the turbo 4 under the hood...all I know that it really has been the most enjoyable vehicle I have ever driven, ever!!! But doubt I'll ever own one unless I win the lottery!!!

    The Sandman :) B)

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  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,737

    Just looked online and seems that 7.5k is the interval for oil changes and tire rotations. Seems a bit long to me and I did mine around 5k so far but maybe I'll stretch it out a bit longer next time. I basically do a almost 60 mile round trip commute to work 4 days a week now so I know the engine is getting up to proper warm up. I am driving less since I stopped my 2nd gig in West Palm but am on track to be at 15k by the 1st anniversary of ownership. Honestly, I really have no complaints about the Tuscon, none at all. From my calculations, seems that I'm averaging around 33 on the highway and for this size vehicle, don't think that's too bad really. I definitely love the higher seating position and the back up camera though I'd love that to be about 20% bigger. Would love to add another set of speakers to the rear hatch area to improve the overall sound but not sure if that's a wise thing to do here, my stereo guy thinks I should just swap out the factory speakers for a better quality sound. Overall, at 9 months of ownership, I'm pretty happy with the vehicle and plan to stay the course for the next 4 to 5 years at least. I once said that this would be my last vehicle but now I'm thinking in about 4 years from now, I might want to move a little bit upscale while I'm still working as I plan to stay working part time another 5 or so years, or until I hit 65. Not sure where we'll be going at that time but most likely, I'll want something a bit nicer as my last vehicle. We used a new Accent at work as our chase vehicle yesterday and to be honest, it wasn't that bad and can see why the wife might want to get one. She's been using the kid's '08 Accent for over a month now and says she's o k with it as a d d. But she has said she definitely will get a vehicle with a back up camera so she might have to be bumped up to the Elantra/Mazda3 size vehicle to get this feature...once she saw how cool mine is and what a useful option it is, she said her next ride will have one. And right now, her plan is still to purchase the last week of December.

    The Sandman :) B)

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,763

    I run Mobil 1 5W-30 for 7,500-8,000 miles in my Mazdaspeed and used oil analysis indicates I could go 10,000 miles. I'd think that you could go 7,500 miles under your driving conditions...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • suydamsuydam Posts: 1,013

    Nearly 10k for my Honda Accord. Everything is different now.

  • jpp5862jpp5862 NCPosts: 371

    @Mr_Shiftright said: Every 16 year old's first car should be made out of solid rubber and be as utterly boring and un-cool as possible. If you carry that far enough, uncool becomes cool. ANYWAY...... If I were this young person, I'd just get "anything decent" for the first year, and postpone the "car of my dreams" reverie for a year or two down the road, after they've gotten their sea legs behind the wheel (rudder? sorry for the mixed metaphor) :) It will also be easier for them to sneak a Mustang or hot hatch into their insurance policy once they've proven that they can steer around large objects. They'll also know a helluva lot more about cars.

    I recommended an older Miata; inexpensive to buy/own/maintain and a true sports car to boot.

    My first driver was a 1987 Ford Bronco. Hardly safe, but something that wasn't cool at the time, but I'd love to have it now.

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,645

    Not a bad first choice---easy to fix, parts on every street corner or wrecking yard, and good self-defense against Range Rovers with grille guards.

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  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,105

    Had the volunteer party for the golf tournament I'm working next week. Saw some of the cars we'll be driving:

    435i Gran Coupe

    Can that Gran Coupe be ordered with a Mod Top and a 440-6 pack? :p

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,763

    @jpp5862 said: My first driver was a 1987 Ford Bronco. Hardly safe, but something that wasn't cool at the time, but I'd love to have it now.

    My dad had a 1973 Bronco V8; what an unmitigated piece of garbage! I inherited it in 1991 and sold it as soon as the estate was final. The only reason I would like to have it back is to experience the pleasure of dousing it in gasoline, striking a match, and watching it burn...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,763

    @roadburner said: I run Mobil 1 5W-30 for 7,500-8,000 miles in my Mazdaspeed and used oil analysis indicates I could go 10,000 miles. I'd think that you could go 7,500 miles under your driving conditions...

    I'm OCD on oil. My cars that get synthetic I change at 5-6k while my conventional oil cars get it at 3k. Too much I know.

    Funny, my Lincoln is the only one with an oil change monitor and I change that when it reads 10%. I guess I must feel that if the car is telling me it's ok to go twice as far, who am I to argue with it.

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • jpp5862jpp5862 NCPosts: 371

    @roadburner said: My dad had a 1973 Bronco V8; what an unmitigated piece of garbage! I inherited it in 1991 and sold it as soon as the estate was final. The only reason I would like to have it back is to experience the pleasure of dousing it in gasoline, striking a match, and watching it burn...

    My dad had one of those too, a red one, but I think it was a 1972. That's how we ended up with the 1987 Bronco. The 70's models seem to be collectors now, but I don't remember it being anything special.

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,645

    Even more infuriating is that that piece of garbage is now worth more than a BMW 2002Tii. Go figure. :(

    @roadburner said: My dad had a 1973 Bronco V8; what an unmitigated piece of garbage! I inherited it in 1991 and sold it as soon as the estate was final. The only reason I would like to have it back is to experience the pleasure of dousing it in gasoline, striking a match, and watching it burn...

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,763

    I know those Broncos command a premium but I sincerely believe anyone who pays that should receive a competency evaluation. It had NO redeeming qualities except that it was very good off road. That said, I have a 1999 Wrangler TJ and it is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the Bronco in any metric you care to name.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,763

    My buddy at the BMW dealership called his friend who bought his 2011 135i M Sport. The guy wants $27,500. It is Alpine White with a Coral Red leather interior, DCT, and every available option except(possibly) SiriusXM. 30k miles and it comes with a set of lightweight wheels and track tires. Hmmm...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,889

    I'm taking everyone's advice and am also going to look at the new Legacy. For pretty much the same price, I can get the bigger, nicer, newer car with the 2.5 L 175 hp 4 cyl instead of the 2.0L 145 hp 4 cyl in the Impreza. Now granted the Legacy weighs more, but according to the dealer sites that show pricing they seem to be dealing right off the bat. I'm going to be obviously looking at the base 2.5i to start with.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • suydamsuydam Posts: 1,013

    Drive them both and report back! You might like the Impreza better.

  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,399

    @nyccarguy said: I'm taking everyone's advice and am also going to look at the new Legacy. For pretty much the same price, I can get the bigger, nicer, newer car with the 2.5 L 175 hp 4 cyl instead of the 2.0L 145 hp 4 cyl in the Impreza. Now granted the Legacy weighs more, but according to the dealer sites that show pricing they seem to be dealing right off the bat. I'm going to be obviously looking at the base 2.5i to start with.

    If you really want to go low on a lease -- 2014 Verano auto and rear view camera 188 zero down 39 month lease [ Buick has 48 month warranty] 10k miles per year. Leather LaCrosse is 259 -- has blind spot monitor as well. Both have 2 year oil change package.

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,889

    @jayrider

    I've switched gears to focus on a purchase. My main reasons for checking out Subaru are the AWD, long term dependability, & excellent resale value (so I won't be buried even if I take out a 72 month loan).

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,763

    I think Q's is better. Definitely lower miles.

    http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/4647098681.html

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,164

    I swear, half of the later run 300SDs were that color. Funny, that's only "average" miles for one of those. Different driving experience than the 300E.

    @oldfarmer50 said: I think Q's is better. Definitely lower miles.

    http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/4647098681.html

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 15,412

    OK, spent much of today car shopping. My wife was even on board with going. I think I am still cashing in my sympathy chips (or she really really missed me when I was gone for most of the last week!).

    anyway, more to come a bit later. But for Farmer, at the Ford dealer, was a really sharp looking gray Mustang GT. 6 speed, hood vents. some kind of expensive package on it (at least 4K) that ran an MSRP of 39K+. For a GT, not even a special version like a shelby or boss.

    oh, the real kicker? It was a new, untitled, 2013! with the sticker still in the window, and I think no miles. No clue how to even come close to pricing that, but that sales guy off the top mentioned there was at least 4K sitting on the hood, before and negotiations. I was thinking 30K?

    but sorry Farmer, no 2015s on the ground yet.

    Oh, and a special post coming just for Bradd! And a shocking revelation that is going to blow you all away.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (daughters college car)

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,889

    @stickguy

    How long are you going to make me wait?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,195

    @oldfarmer50 said: I think Q's is better. Definitely lower miles.

    http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/4647098681.html

    I agree Q's is better, but people go crazy over those old diesels, even though their acceleration is dangerously slow by today's standards and they lack many modern safety features.

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