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Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous



  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 1,367
    I'd have to agree with Mathias here. I've had a number of Cruzes as rentals this year, most recently a 13 LTZ. I thought it was pretty nice. The 1.4T has usable torque, quiet, mileage was acceptable, good sized trunk, and the ride/handling compromise was okay. New touchscreen is responsive, no issues with it locking up, etc. All in all, pretty good and definitely not crap.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,079
    It's a little too big and lacks features like a backup camera or parking sensors, but it rides well and I agree it's a lot of car for the money.
  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 1,367
    There's actually another article they did that compares the Cruze 1.8 and the Impala that's an interesting read. Year old examples of each are probably around the same price, I guess.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,079
    edited February 2013
    I've read that (and usually read TTAC every day), but that's probably worth a reread. Baruth's articles on the GLI and GTI planted the seed for my getting one. :D

    Edited to add: Aha! Baruth says the GM 3.6 liter V6 "feels somewhat coarse" in the CTS.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,170
    how often do you see one of these in the wild?

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,413
    I notice that Toyota dealers still have 2012 Priuses (Prii?) on their lots. With gas prices well into the $4/ gal range one would think tv the be selling better.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,079
    Never knew they made those with a stick!

    "the bad..abs light comes on and off"

    Add to that, the non-OEM wheels/tires (which look like they came off a Mustang) and lowered suspension. Also, I read the ad three times and don't see where the seller listed the mileage. And another thing: Not enough pics.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,170
    my rule of thumb, if they leave it out, you will gag on it.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • steine13steine13 Posts: 2,411
    My rule is that if they leave it out it's probably because they want too little money but are embarrassed.

    Seriously: No price = Next!

  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,251
    Maybe folks have more choices in high mpg vehicles at thousands less than the Prius and maybe they realize that buying a new car to get better mpg is financially foolish.
  • jpp5862jpp5862 NCPosts: 323
    Most of the Hyundai and Kia's I've had as rentals were very well worn by the 20 - 25 k mark. It was usually things like the seats and controls looking rough and feeling used up. Definitely a huge difference between those and their American and Japanese counterparts with similar mileage.
  • jpp5862jpp5862 NCPosts: 323
    edited February 2013
    I've never been impressed with the Cruze as a rental and fortunately haven't had one in a few months, usually I can get an upgrade to something better, however occasionally at a really small airport or an offsite location you end up with something like that.

    The Cruze isn't a bad car per se (at least not like the Citation and Cimmaron were) but compared to others in its class it's also not competitive.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    They sell tons of 'em, too.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,301
    Last year I was at IMS the week before the 500, and Chevrolet was offering test drives of several of their cars. Before you could drive a Camaro SS or a Corvette you first had to test drive a more sedate car. I took out a Cruze Eco with the manual transmission, and here is what I wrote about it in my monthly column:

    A very nice little car. I sampled the six speed manual version and found it to be responsive and comfortable. The interior was attractive and appeared well designed and put together. The EPA mpg numbers are 28 city and 42 highway, and you can take one home for less than $20,000. It deserves serious consideration if you want a smaller car that is economical to drive yet doesn't feel cheap.

    Now, most everyone here knows that I am hardly a fan of Gubmint Motors, but I have to give credit when it is due- and I stand by my evaluation.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • breldbreld Posts: 1,252
    edited February 2013
    I had a similar experience with the Cruze last year when I tested one out (same model as roadburner drove). Other than the sedan-only body style, the only thing I really didn't care for was the brakes.

    2011 BMW 535xi - 2008 Audi TT - 2008 A3 - 2009 Ody

  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,626
    edited February 2013
    Today I was beaten out of a Nissan Altima and the only other choices were a Chevy Aveo, a Cruze and a 2012 Nissan Sentra. I gave the Cruze to a co-worker who really likes them and took the Sentra. With over 28k on the clock, it was pretty abused inside but it drove beautifully, like I was on a cloud! Very impressive and it didn't fuss when asked for abrupt acceleration. I had to hit 90 + a few times while making a passing move and the car performed very well. I can't wait to try a new '13 Sentra to see if it has been improved but this '12 model was very acceptable and I'm glad I chose it. I had a '13 Kia Forte yesterday and it was quite good also and I wouldn't feel unhappy having it as my was that good. The Elantra is still a better car but when the new '13 Forte debuts, then we'll really see how far Kia has come. I did get a $25 Visa card offer to test drive any Kia by the end of the month, so I'll probably go and try the Rio as this could be the wife's next ride...she really wants to downsize.

    I drove a co-workers Cruze rental last week during our lunch stop. It was a fully outfitted '13 Cruze LTZ RS and I was totally unimpressed. Only had about 5k on the clock and I still think this is a sub par 7 year old Civic drives better, is quieter and more comfortable...this Cruze even had leather! Maybe it's me and I'm hoping that when I do get to try a Verano that I will be more impressed but as of now, I will avoid any Cruze if possible!

    I've yet to drive a '12 Ford Fusion but had the opportunity to try the new '13 Fusion and honestly, it was just o k, nothing earth shattering or revolutionary in this segment, just o k. Definitely think the Sonata and the Optima are better in all areas and a better value. I'm trying to snag an older Fusion so I can make a fair comparison. I think the Focus is a better car but I am more into compact vehicles. At this point though, the Elantra is still the benchmark in this category as it does almost everything right. But this is my personal opinion and I don't mean to start any flame wars here. I am now in unique position to test most offerings in the market and I also come into this with a sort of special needs agenda as I put seat comfort at the top of my list on everything I get to drive. If I can't get comfortable, the whole experience is going to be a bit tainted as the pain will make me dislike any vehicle but that's just the way it is in my case. Luckily, I've really liked most of what I've got to drive so far with the exception of a few.

    Here's hoping that I get to drive some interesting vehicles in the next few days that I haven't tried before. The Jetta, Verano and Sentra are on my immediate wish list.

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    edited February 2013
    Hmm, I didn't like the Sentra rental my wife got. Maybe yours was better equipped.

    The new Sentra has a huge back seat, very impressive. Haven't driven it though.

    We got a Kia Rio loaner shortly after the Sentra and we both liked that better.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,079
    edited February 2013
    I had the old Sentra as a rental and liked it, which is one of the reasons I bought my current Altima. The Sentra I had was a stripped model, and most of my gripes were about the level of equipment it had--it drove nicely.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,079
    Took the GLI on a trip around the Cumberland Falls area today. There are lots of nice curvy roads around there. I had a route planned out and uploaded to my Garmin (I brought it along for that reason), but it got confused several times along the way. Regardless of the route, I drove on some really fun roads. The GLI handles really well and is fun to drive. I averaged at least 31 MPG (I calculated 31.5 when I filled the tank, the trip computer read over 32), which I thought was impressive. I drove about 20 miles on the interstate and reset the second trip computer for that run--it reported 30 MPG at 80 MPH. One nice thing about the turbo is that you don't have to give it 100% throttle to accelerate briskly. :D

    Now the bad: My left knee cramped up within a few hours, which is odd since the car is an automatic! I'm hoping it's related to the three miles I walked yesterday and not due to the positioning of the dead pedal, which is a large plastic molded affair and not a little piece of rubber glued to the carpet like the Altima. Also, the car now has exactly 1,000 miles and I'm able to measure some tire wear with my digital tire depth gauge, which doesn't bode well. :surprise:
  • gouldngouldn Posts: 214
    edited February 2013
    The Forester threw a CEL and with 200.5k I don't blame it! So I stepped up the replacement activities today. I really didn't like the way the Prius V drove, but really like the idea of high MPG, so I tried a Plug In Prius today. They only have two trim levels, and the upper trim level is right at $40K ... um no. So i test drove the $32K version. Overall ... not a bad car, but no, I guess I cannot deal with the Prius driving experience. It was marginally better than the Prius V ... it's not horrible, it's just antiseptic ... if that's a word to describe the dull driving experience. The car itself was comfortable, and had neat electronic do-dads. Maybe it's time get over my experience of my 1993 Audi and give them another chance with the A3 tdi. Honestly though I think I'm gonna end up with a 2014 Forester Limited, provided the CVT isn't horrible. If I cannot deal with the CVT I'll probably go with the new RAV4 or maybe a Mazda CX5. I called the Redwood City Subaru dealer and even though their website shows one in stock .. they say there are NONE in stock until mid March.

    I'm also flirting with the idea of throwing all ideals out the window and buying something silly ... like a used Boxter or S2K ... I DID dump all my motorcycles; can't I have something dangerous and non-practical?
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