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Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

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  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,936

    @crkyolfrt , I thought leaf blowers were a no-no because they can "sandblast" the paint.

    When the new Odyssey came out in '98, many owners told their dealers not to prep them since they didn't want the prep techs to wash them with dirty rags.

  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346

    @Stever@Edmunds said: crkyolfrt , I thought leaf blowers were a no-no because they can "sandblast" the paint.

    When the new Odyssey came out in '98, many owners told their dealers not to prep them since they didn't want the prep techs to wash them with dirty rags.

    I'm inclined to agree if the snow is dirty. Some snow has dust in it depending on the area (thinking certain farming country a couple hours away) that doesn't get a lot of snow but endures a lot of wind all time. But if I were buying a new car and had a choice of (after the fact, cuz given the choice I'd brush off my own new car) knowing that they used a brush (one that gets worn out with lots of debris stuck in it over use) or a blower, I think I'd prefer if they had used the blower.

    I am one of those customers too that haven't had them wash and detail my new car for the last few. I never go to a car wash, preferring to do it myself.

    Last fall I was at a Ram dealer and chatted with a guy whose GF had just bought a fancy new black Ram. This thing was at least 50 grand. Aside from numerous white specks that she was in the office with the salesman debating how they were going to address the mess it made of the black paint, I also looked down at the wheels and they had sprayed so much tire shine that they had successfully made this brand new truck, look like it was just freshly detailed off the used car lot. But wait! It gets worse..These idiots had actually armor'ald the dash :( My gawd had that been my truck, I would have told them they just bought themselves a (used, IMO) truck back. I would have refused to take delivery. How in blazes would they even fix that? Armoral seems to resist soap and water. Anyway, that was a most illuminating afternoon because I filed that incredulousness in the back of mind, something that before that day I would have NEVER DREAMED I would have had to inform a dealership to NOT do when they were prepping my purchase.

    Why do I feel that that could only happen at a North American dealership? Can you imagine ANY MB dealer doing such a thing? lololol

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,894

    @stickguy said: actually found a used car that interested me. A 2006 BMW 525i. 106K on it, but hey, miles don't really count, right? not far from my house. Might have to take a run over if I can snag a car from someone during the week (this being housebound during the day is for the birds, no wonder housewives in the 50s drank so much!)

    Well, you probably know the drill by now, but you'll want to know when/if the cooling system was overhauled. If not yet, then budget $2k to get that done ASAP.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • MrShift@EdmundsMrShift@Edmunds Posts: 43,637

    @qbrozen said: Well, you probably know the drill by now, but you'll want to know when/if the cooling system was overhauled. If not yet, then budget $2k to get that done ASAP.

    And have the control arm bushings checked as well.

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 2,487

    I miss the XK and its summer tires. 1/8" snow and it don't go, didn't really get a chance to test the Conti Extreme DWS tires on it before I traded for the XF. Abacomike, perhaps you have the DWS on the CLS. I would have liked a CLS, but even used, out of my price range... Like your CLS deal, I got a great one on the XF, nothing like New Year's Eve buying!

    Still trying to find the perfect seat/steering wheel position in the XF. Think I may have it, just wish it had adjustable/more thigh support. I've now loaded ten CDs onto the hard drive (#1: Layla and Other Love Songs by Derek and the Dominos. #2: Beatles #1 hits, hey, it's a British car!). The Meridian sound system sounds great, not yet sure if it's a big impovement over the B&W from the XK (which was a big improvement over the Alpine). I don't have any issues with the infotainment system, logical enough, a bit slow (mostly entering NAV addresses), but it works fo far. Headlights, as noted in a couple of reviews, aren't great.

    Still only ~300 miles on the clock, so not a lot to report. Very cool interior, like the mix of materials and the phosporescent blue lighting at night. Big trunk. Gotta remember to ask about the 3 months of free Sirius, but with 18 HD radio presets (36 with AM), the 10 CDs loaded plus the one cd in the slot and my IPod, I got the music in me!

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,584

    @qbrozen said: Well, you probably know the drill by now, but you'll want to know when/if the cooling system was overhauled. If not yet, then budget $2k to get that done ASAP.

    By then still had cooling issues? Hard to believe they never addressed that. I assume a Indy BMW specialist could easily tell even without records? Would definitely need a PPI on one of these.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,902
    edited January 6

    Armorall on the dash of a new car? I would literally refuse to take delivery. When I picked up my car, I asked them to not clean it at all, I would handle it. Even on a lease, I can't completely break my OCD tendencies (I am a little better, but not much).

    @crkyolfrt said: Why do I feel that that could only happen at a North American dealership? Can you imagine ANY MB dealer doing such a thing? lololol

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,015

    @nyccarguy What I was thinking was that it may be located in the transmission tunnel at the point the heat is coming from- you'd have to put it on a rack and see where it is relative to the hot spot. I suppose there could be a loose or missing heat shield; again you'd have to check it from underneath. Those are just my guesses- sorry I can't be of more help... :(

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,584

    son brought up another potential option. Something that I am actually interested in too. Assuming that he decides to hold onto the TL for a while longer (basically getting into the 2015 MY).

    The next Golf looks and sounds really slick. Supposed to arrive "mid-2014" whenever that ends up being. If it turned out to be somewhere in the spring, might be an option.

    I love hatchbacks.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,102

    @roadburner

    Cmon, please don't be sorry:) I'm just wondering if it is worth having the dealer look at it or are they going to tell me "they can't find the problem?" Thanks as always!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,015

    @nyccarguy If it has been doing it all along I'd just have it checked at the next service. It doesn't smell like anything is burning or excessively hot does it?

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,102

    @roadburner it hasn't been doing it all along. It is definitely something that's come up more recent. I don't smell anything burning, but do notice that my right leg does get hot. It is also warmer than luke warm to the touch. Much warmer on the driver's side than the passenger side.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346

    @nyccarguy said: roadburner it hasn't been doing it all along. It is definitely something that's come up more recent. I don't smell anything burning, but do notice that my right leg does get hot. It is also warmer than luke warm to the touch. Much warmer on the driver's side than the passenger side.

    I would check your heater outlet to make sure an elbow or ? hasn't come loose and is now not directing air where it used to. Also, if you can borrow a ClassII laser temp gun to help pinpoint the exact hot spot. This will be harder to do with carpet but is still possible.

    Try the heater thing though first..just drive a bit on the chilly side until you can rule that aspect out. If you have a means to get under the car...do you do your own oil changes?..I forget...but then you can also direct the temp gun precisely in specific areas of the drive train and chassis. I bought a good one over 15 years ago..was over 400 bucks. It has been great to check race bike tires, aft thermostat coolant lines, dragging brake calipers, the accuracy of your oven/fridge at home etc. So I hope I am giving you good advice if the 25 dollar guns will be as helpful. And of course I say a 25 $ one because the odds of you borrowing one in that price range is probably greater than one of the highend ones. For all I know the cheapy will still tell you..

  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346

    @fintail said: Armorall on the dash of a new car? I would literally refuse to take delivery. When I picked up my car, I asked them to not clean it at all, I would handle it. Even on a lease, I can't completely break my OCD tendencies (I am a little better, but not much).

    I know! I couldn't believe my eyes..Anyway, according to her BF, her main beef was with the white marks that had been buffed all through the black during detail waxing. It was like these flecks where pressed into the paint. A fingernail had no affect on them. When I saw the dash I know I had trouble quelling my disbelief in front of her BF. I didn't want them to feel worse than they already musta felt.

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,121
    @nyccarguy...After I drive my car for a while, my right leg gets warm from resting it against the transmission tunnel. I put my hand there & it feels as hot as the heated seats.

    NYC, I remember that happening in my Corvette manual transmission and my GTO stick - the transmission console would heat up (which I could feel on my right leg as it leaned against the console. It seemed to occur more frequently when I drove in the same gear for longer periods of time. It always seemed warmer in the winter than in the summer.

    I am sure the transmission heats up and eventually the heat bleeds through the transmission tunnel and/ or console. It is probably more noticeable in very cold weather since heat is always more noticeable in cold environs.

    Come to think of it, it happened in my Mustang GT stick as well. It is very possible that all it is could be the transference of friction induced heat.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,894

    @stickguy

    oh, hell yeah. They still have the issues with the new ones. Thing is, it isn't really an "issue" as far as they are concerned because the components last the life of the warranty, so why should they care? It is all plastic garbage and they have no reason to stop using it.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,576

    So far, no issues with the Tuscon except that the high beams may be pointed a bit too high but not totally sure...will have it checked out when I get the 1st oil change there. It's a blast to drive and a lot more fun than a lot of the rentals I get to drive. Tried the heated seats the other morning when it got down in the low 50's and they work, very warm to! Very happy with my choice and the only thing I might do is upgrade the speakers to improve the sound quality. Would also love a bumper guard along the lower doors to protect from door dings but maybe later on. So far am very pleased and am seeing a lot more of them on the road now as well as the Kia Sportage. A very good choice in the small ute category.

    The Sandman :) B)

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • kyfdx%40Edmundskyfdx%40Edmunds Posts: 25,879
    edited January 7

    Speaking of plastic garbage..

    Independent mechanic did a CCV kit and an aftermarket alternator on my car, today..

    Total bill from the mechanic was $650, which included 5 hours labor and a $280 aftermarket alternator, plus I had a cost of $159 for the CCV kit (OEM parts) that I bought on-line.

    So, $810 for two jobs that were quoted at right around $2200 total from my dealer. ($350 of the difference was the cheaper alternator).

    Moderator - Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,902

    Dealers have been sued and lost bigtime over similar incidents. She probably should have lawyered up and only settled for a replacement vehicle.

    @crkyolfrt said: I know! I couldn't believe my eyes..Anyway, according to her BF, her main beef was with the white marks that had been buffed all through the black during detail waxing. It was like these flecks where pressed into the paint. A fingernail had no affect on them. When I saw the dash I know I had trouble quelling my disbelief in front of her BF. I didn't want them to feel worse than they already musta felt.

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,102

    newyork.craigslist.org/fct/cto/4263443907.html. Check out this 2000 ///M5 with 112K miles

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

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