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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 21,586
    oh, the Audi story. Son driving me nuts with his obsession about getting an A3 now (seems to be a genetic issue). decided that he really liked a certain package (season of Audi, basically a end of model year special priced package with some nice features, and sports trim and suspension, but still 17" wheels). Only liked it though in one specific color. So of course, hard to find.

    turns out, our local guy (where he got the Jetta) has one. So I stopped to get our salesguy up to speed, and he is talking to kid tonight. If this house of cards deals comes together, it involves driving home (4 hours) to here, and somehow turn the Jetta in early, buy the Audi, and turn around to head right back out to his alma mater for homecoming weekend. A lot of moving parts.

    so, seems to have settled on if he gets a screaming deal (we determined numbers that qualify), he will pull the trigger. otherwise, will wait until November (winter season of audi sales time) and see if it works, otherwise wait until February when lease is over, and get a 2017 instead.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 1,233
    I've got just over 600 miles in just over a month.

    How do you like it so far? What impresses you most/least?

    2010 Pilot EXL-RES, 2013 Accord EX

  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 7,356
    stickguy said:

    oh, the Audi story. Son driving me nuts with his obsession about getting an A3 now (seems to be a genetic issue). decided that he really liked a certain package (season of Audi, basically a end of model year special priced package with some nice features, and sports trim and suspension, but still 17" wheels). Only liked it though in one specific color. So of course, hard to find.

    turns out, our local guy (where he got the Jetta) has one. So I stopped to get our salesguy up to speed, and he is talking to kid tonight. If this house of cards deals comes together, it involves driving home (4 hours) to here, and somehow turn the Jetta in early, buy the Audi, and turn around to head right back out to his alma mater for homecoming weekend. A lot of moving parts.

    so, seems to have settled on if he gets a screaming deal (we determined numbers that qualify), he will pull the trigger. otherwise, will wait until November (winter season of audi sales time) and see if it works, otherwise wait until February when lease is over, and get a 2017 instead.

    Audi must be doing something right, I always tell people; just test-drive them! I would strongly recommend he get only the color he actually wants. This is a big purchase, not good to settle on a big purchase; pay for what you actually want.
    2016 Audi TTS 2.0T quattro AWD. 2016 Kia Optima LX 1.6T FWD. Wife 2015 VW Golf Sportwagen TDI SE DSG FWD.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 21,586
    I guess the 6 speed is considered to be just for the hi po cars? Honestly, with all the torque from the 1.8, 5 is probably plenty. Plus, I am a dinosaur. after 35 years of driving 5 speeds, the 6th gear was a bit disorienting. Might just take some getting used to it I guess. But I would not feel deprived with just a 5 speed.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 39,598
    sda said:

    I've got just over 600 miles in just over a month.

    How do you like it so far? What impresses you most/least?

    I like it a lot.

    Best feature is the torque - for a small motor, it pushes me back in the seat when I bury the throttle.

    Not sure what i don't like. It's a bit plasticky inside, but really no worse that the E-GT.

    Waiting for it to break in to see what kind of mileage I get. Both tanks so far have been around 27-28MPG.

    The wife feels like the front passenger seat doesn't go back far enough - she feels close to the dash and windshield.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 21,586
    . Audi must be doing something right, I always tell people; just test-drive them! I would strongly recommend he get only the color he actually wants. This is a big purchase, not good to settle on a big purchase; pay for what you actually want.

    he is fixated on the color he wants. also wanted the chestnut interior, but decided he could settle for black, and to give up navi package.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 39,598
    stickguy said:

    .

    Audi must be doing something right, I always tell people; just test-drive them! I would strongly recommend he get only the color he actually wants. This is a big purchase, not good to settle on a big purchase; pay for what you actually want.

    he is fixated on the color he wants. also wanted the chestnut interior, but decided he could settle for black, and to give up navi package.

    I would love to upgrade to an Audi when my Jetta lease is up. But, I suspect I'll have to "settle" for a GLI.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 21,586
    depending on the specific deals, may not be that much of a difference. I do, however, like the A3. He might even let me drive it.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 7,356
    stickguy said:

    depending on the specific deals, may not be that much of a difference. I do, however, like the A3. He might even let me drive it.

    Don't tell him this unless you want to delay him, I've heard the '17 A3 gets a lot of under the skin improvements, of course that was from a story on the '17 S3, but I imagine the A3 will also be improved.
    2016 Audi TTS 2.0T quattro AWD. 2016 Kia Optima LX 1.6T FWD. Wife 2015 VW Golf Sportwagen TDI SE DSG FWD.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 21,586
    oh I told him all about the upgrades. he didn't think they were enough to wait on. I did. His money! The package he wants is a pretty good deal, and he will only get if they give him a serious discount.

    my guess, this one falls through, and he just waits. probably the best case anyway, but ya never know.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 3,800
    Drove a '16 Civic all day at the Honda store and it's quite stellar compared to the others in it's class. Blows the Corolla out of the water and as good as the Jetta. Haven't driven the new Elantra yet so can not comment but expecting good things. Hertz got in a mess load of new Elantra's and Cruze's but we can't get at them because they go to the airport first. Eventually, they will trickle down to the HLE offices and after 5K on the clock, we should have plenty.
    Missed the big fight in the chase vehicle today but heard they had to pull over before the punches started flying. Got a text within 5 minutes describing the whole affair and wasn't surprised as I was just waiting for it to happen. The newest crew member just isn't fitting in well and it's causing big problems now. I just avoid him by working the days he doesn't and if I do see him, say hello and goodbye since I don't like drama of any sort. Best just to not be there on his days on and will continue this pattern.

    The Sandman :) B)

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2009 Nissan Versa SL Hatch (daughter #1) / 2008 Hyundai Accent GLS (daughter #2)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 21,586
    so, to my surprise, got a call that my son was in fact coming up Thrusday, because he quickly worked out a good deal. Basically got $3,400 off on the A3. So happy with that. he calls all excited, giving me details, and working out logistics.

    but, calls back 10 minutes later. Deal is off. Turns out that the car sold this morning, but they neglected to take if off the board. Salesguy didn't find out until he worked out the #s with my son, and went to start processing it. He was bummed to hear the news.

    Salesguy (real nice dude, excellent to deal with) did feel bad. Offered basically the same strong deal on a different unit. But, no more with the sport trim package he wanted. So, son did smart thing, and decides to wait for the 17s to arrive, and take a look at BMW too. But most likely will just find a nice updated A3 in a few months.

    at least I know what we will be doing the week of thanksgiving!

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 5,072
    That's disappointing.
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,648
    Put me down for a punch (so much for turning in my CCBA card). Hubby is picking up a brand new 2016 Ford Fusion SE on Thursday. We sold his Focus (gonna miss it) for $7500, not too bad since the dealer was only offering $5500 (after I went off on them about their original offer of $2000). Focus has 87k on it and is still a great car but we felt it was time to upgrade to a little more family friendly car. My Explorer is nearing 60k and it would be nice to have another vehicle we can use as a family car. Speaking of my Explorer, its sitting at the Ford dealer waiting for repair, in the meantime I'm stuck with a 2014 Edge Limited. I really really want my Explorer back. Daughter is still thrilled with her 2015 Focus.

    Love the deals right now on the Fusion, we used my x-plan through work, $2500 rebate, and 0% for 72 months, yes please!
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 5,072
    edited September 21
    Congrats on the punch! I'm surprised they lowballed the trade-in like that on an X-plan customer, but when you're the only game in town, I guess there are no rules.

    That's 32 punches for the year. henryn had predicted 33, and nobody predicted more than that. I think we will easily beat 33!
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 21,586
    I want an asterisk, thanks to the TDI arbitrage binge.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,648
    corvette said:

    Congrats on the punch! I'm surprised they lowballed the trade-in like that on an X-plan customer, but when you're the only game in town, I guess there are no rules.

    That's 32 punches for the year. henryn had predicted 33, and nobody predicted more than that. I think we will easily beat 33!

    They only came up on trade value when I shopped it at Worthington in Anchorage, they offered $5k. At that point the dealer close to home changed their tune to keep the deal. I was seriously offended by their initial offer. I told them that in 8 years we have tried numerous times to buy a car there and they always screw it up then we go buy at Worthington. Guess they wanted to keep our business this time.

    Its nice that the Fusion he's buying is AWD, will make his commute in the winter a lot safer, not saying the Focus ever had trouble but AWD is a bonus. Plus he will have the Sync/Ford my touch so he can quit whining about no bluetooth and no usb ports.

    Funny thing about the dealer we are buying the car from, a sales manager called hubby last week and asked him to bring his Focus in for an appraisal, said they were interested in purchasing his car. The guy told him "you'd be surprised by how much we will offer for the car".......he wasn't wrong there! $2000......that's less than 1/2 of rough trade!
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 5,072
    What a bunch of jerks. I think I probably would've just gone back to the Anchorage dealer again.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 51,975
    Congrats @akangl. Funny about the "surprise".

    Where's your hubby commuting to - Anchorage? Has traffic eased any with the sagging economy up there?

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  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,648
    corvette said:

    What a bunch of jerks. I think I probably would've just gone back to the Anchorage dealer again.

    The problem was the Wasilla dealer had the exact car he wanted, the car in Anchorage didn't have a couple options hubby really wanted. I didn't want him to settle since he has to drive the car 500 miles/week.
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,648
    edited September 21
    stever said:

    Congrats @akangl. Funny about the "surprise".

    Where's your hubby commuting to - Anchorage? Has traffic eased any with the sagging economy up there?

    He commutes from Wasilla to north of Healy, so he rolls about 500 miles/week through the mountains and such.

    Oh and no, the traffic is just as horrible if not worse than it was when we moved to south central 8 years ago.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 51,975
    Thanks, couldn't remember. At least he avoids the heavy traffic (not that moose aren't heavy).

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 7,356
    That reminds me of the time a Toyota dealer offered $800 for a 65K mile '95 4-door Blue Dodge Neon Sport that was well maintained. It was an offensively low offer, only you couldn't really get offended about any offers on that car.
    2016 Audi TTS 2.0T quattro AWD. 2016 Kia Optima LX 1.6T FWD. Wife 2015 VW Golf Sportwagen TDI SE DSG FWD.
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 3,800
    Just left my indie VW/Audi store and he said if I plan on keeping the Golf long term, might not be a bad idea to go ahead and get the warranty. They will accept it so after my term with VW ends, can go right to them for anything that might crop up, minus the $100 deductible. Withe mileage I'm putting on, will reach the 36K limit well before the 3 year point of ownership. And as much as I'd like to get a Mini Cooper, not sure if that's a smart move. This guy told me it'll drive like a BMW but have only driven a couple of 328's, that 2 Series a couple months ago and a X1 a couple years back. Drove a Mini for about a 1/2 hour back in 2013 and the test drive back in July but it was such a short test drive, I don't remember much. Really need to get one and drive it for a day or two to see how it goes.
    But keeping the Golf is the logical move here and getting the Platinum warranty just makes sense. Thinking of a 5 year/60K mile plan and if I get it at 24K, it'll take me up to 84K miles. Or there's the 5 year/75K plan which gets me to 99K miles. But the latter is about $1K more than the former.
    Glad I went to talk with the guy and he's getting me new front blades for tomorrow since mine are oem and have never been changed. Overdue on this as the originals aren't doing their job like when they were new. He did remind me that any repair up to 36K would be done by the VW folks under warranty which I get. From what Troy at the warranty place said, the prices go up a lot once the vehicle hits 25,001 miles and he suggested that I get one before I hit that mark if I am going in that direction. Makes complete sense since I do love the car and best thing is it's transferable.

    The Sandman :) B)

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2009 Nissan Versa SL Hatch (daughter #1) / 2008 Hyundai Accent GLS (daughter #2)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 21,586
    I thought the warranty term was total, so 5/75 only went to 75K. Not tagged onto the current miles on the car.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 3,800
    The guy emailed me back with answers to my questions such as that. He said, "Time/mileage are effective from the current date and mileage…and 25,000 miles is cut off before the next pricing increase which is at 25,001 miles. So if you purchased a 5 yr / 60K plan today, it would cover you until Sept. 2021 or 81,350 total miles whichever you reach first". Makes sense to me and he sent me a listing of at least 12 different plans and prices. Have never bought one for any past vehicle but with the Golf, thinking it's probably best to just move forward once I hit 24K so I have enough time to get all the paperwork completed and accepted. Then I stay the course until the end of the term.
    It is transferable so if I did decide to sell it on my own, having it couldn't hurt resale I'd think. And cleaned up, it's certainly a real good looker with the nice blue paint plus the upgraded alloys...won't see another quite like it! Personally. the color coded metal door edge guards and the classic white pinstripe give it a classy look to. And really, am in no hurry to let it go actually as it does drive nicely. And as much as I do like the Mini Cooper, Honda HR-V and MB CLA 250, no good reason to swap out right now. And unlike the Tucson, I ain't driving a vehicle I really dislike on a daily basis!

    The Sandman :) B)

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2009 Nissan Versa SL Hatch (daughter #1) / 2008 Hyundai Accent GLS (daughter #2)

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 50,309
    My advice: Keep the car until the 5yr/60K powertrain warranty is up, then ditch it.

    If it really worries you that much, spending extra money on a warranty won't help. (except the company and salesperson you buy it from).

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  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 3,800
    Not worried exactly, just not trusting...something totally different. It drives great, love everything about it and do want to keep it for an extended period of time. Basically I just want the peace of mind that keeping it to 80K or even 90K, that most things will be covered. Honestly, think I need to drive an HR-V and see if it's something I could live with. Sat in one again yesterday at the Honda store, and yes, the interior is a place I definitely could live with. I know the fit and finish are top notch and I won't need to spring for a warranty here as heck, it's a Honda. I have heard that the a/c is not up to snuff nor is the acceleration and these are things I need to see for myself. The ingress/egress is perfect, love the EX-L seating surfaces, back seat isn't a penalty box just hate the lack of knobs on the a/c and infotainment equipment.
    Once I drive one, I'll know very quickly if it's a vehicle I could live with and one that I like as much as I do my Golf. Then, and only then, will I know if I should take your advice and dump it when the powertrain warranty is up. This goes for the Mini to, I'll need a much longer test drive to make an educated decision.

    The Sandman :) B)

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2009 Nissan Versa SL Hatch (daughter #1) / 2008 Hyundai Accent GLS (daughter #2)

  • jpp5862jpp5862 Wilmington, NCPosts: 855
    kyfdx said:

    My advice: Keep the car until the 5yr/60K powertrain warranty is up, then ditch it.

    If it really worries you that much, spending extra money on a warranty won't help. (except the company and salesperson you buy it from).

    I've been contemplating an extended warranty on the Touareg in case I bought it at the end of the lease. I enjoy it enough to buy it at the end of the lease, until last week. I'm at 10,500 miles and recently noticed it wasn't that smooth during upshifts, especially under moderate acceleration. It felt like you were in a manual transmission car and had slowed down but didn't downshift and then tried to accelerate again and it was bogging down.

    The service tech rode with me and quickly noticed it as a "transmission shudder" and said it certainly wasn't normal and would need to be repaired, maybe even replace the transmission. He explained how complex the transmissions in the Touareg were and thought it might be the stepper motors being out of sync but said they'd have to do some work to make sure. Disappointing but not completely surprising. Shame because I absolutely love the vehicle but makes it hard to feel good about buying it at lease end....
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 3,800
    edited September 22
    So one just never knows, as mine's running flawlessly now. Like you, I do really like the vehicle, a lot, but not sure what to do. Think I'll hold off until I hit 24K and then make my decision then. One just never knows what could happen!

    The Sandman :) B)

    (The issue I heard about the turbo 1.8t engine in the Passat has made me think a bit...will do some more research on this engine just to be sure. Hell, if the a/c goes out like it did in my '06 Civic, it could be a pretty costly fix. So even with super reliable vehicles, things happen. It's just how lucky do I feel. And if I do decide to sell early, having it might make a sale by owner that much easier. Anyone who knows me, and probably most in here, know I keep my vehicles super clean and up to date. If there's an issue, I usually take care of it right away. I'd be very happy to buy my used vehicles...all I know is that my Civic sold within a day of being on their lot back in 2013.

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2009 Nissan Versa SL Hatch (daughter #1) / 2008 Hyundai Accent GLS (daughter #2)

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