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Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,536
    would like to know dyno numbers.

    would also be far better without the hood scoop.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    My 13 mile drive takes 45-60 coming in, 35 or so getting home.

    Average speed 20mph per the GPS. :sick:

    I should be comparing 0-20 instead of 0-60. Might end up with a Leaf! :D
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,351
    Your commute is perfect for a prius. Whenever I'm in a prolonged traffic jam[rare], my mpg is up around 70.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Haven't driven the current model. I drove the previous one when it came out, to see what all the controversy was about. Seems like the most loved and most hated car ever. It was OK, I didn't really understand where all the criticism was coming from.

    Guess where Toyota hosted the test drive event?

    Whole Foods. :D

    Only the V has a panoramic moonroof option, though, right?

    Searching cargurus....cheapest one is $30,371. No used ones as of now.

    How big is the regular Prius' moonroof?

    The Prius C's is pretty small.

    Was really hoping to like the C-Max better than I did.
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,351
    The prius tests much better if you wear a pair of Birkenstocks.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I thought those were for Subaru owners.

    Yet we don't own any so shame on us. :D

    How are you liking yours? Did you get a moonroof? Nav? New or used, remind me...
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,776
    If you are a chronic car buyer (or like me) a chronic car looker, stay away from swapalease.com & leasetrader.com. I saw a 2012 Mustang GT listed with 14 months to go. 1600 miles per month. $275 per month (plus tax).

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,178
    Yeah, I've played around on those sites quite a bit. It can be difficult to find good deals. I've seen quite a few sellers who put way too much down on a lease in order to make the payment lower and expect to get their down payment back when they swap out of the lease.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,776
    I'm sure if they REALLY wanted to get out of the lease, they'd eat the downpayment. It's a good way to not lay out bank fee, security deposit, and numerous months of lease payments. You would have to pay the disposition fee though.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    Before I got the Lacrosse there was an MKS fully decked out with a payment in the mid 4s. The seller mentioned a 7k down payment. He was letting it go for no cash. It was gone quickly before I had a chance to react. That would have been a sweet two year term for a 50k car.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,351
    Bought my 2010 IV with leather in 2010. Have 30k miles on it. Did not want nav or a sunroof. Drive it in power mode and it "feels" peppy-- other than road noise [tires] all is well. Great seats and a JBL radio. Saw a V today at the showroom -- had the tailgate lifts replaced under warranty. Quite a bit bigger but my wife and I can fit all we need in the standard size. MSRP was 27k -- not much in it. I wouldn't be afraid to buy used up to 60k miles but wouldn't spend more than 16-18k. If you need a roof, might change the strategy. My Garmin Nav is outstanding and you can change destinations on the move.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    With an average moving speed of 26 mph I'm not too worried about road noise.

    V is 181" plus, that's big in DC. My previous car was 175" and the Miata's size (155") is much better suited.

    Love my Garmin too, Magellan isn't nearly as good so stick with Garmin for sure.

    I don't like the off set gauges but I'm handy and could probably fabricate a mount to put the GPS there instead, who knows.

    I should drive one to see how I like it.

    Tough I did actually put an ad for a rim swap on the Miata, looking to get OEM 16"s to trade for my 17"s. If that makes the ride more tolerable maybe I will keep it longer, but I will have to lose my CCB membership!
  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 1,385
    edited February 2013
    Nice, I bet the 16's are the perfect size for the Miata. Mine is a GT so I have the 17's as well and for all the complaining on the webernets from about how the NC is soft, it feels harsh enough to me. I did replace the OEM michelins with continentals last november and that did help a little.

    15 Leaf / 08 RDX

  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,108
    Most buyers in the lower end of the market are impulse buyers anyways, or "I need a car within 2 weeks" type people.

    Nobody would wait 3-5 months for an economy hatchback, although we did have once customer who ordered a green accent hatchback in manual transmission and did end up waiting 2 or 3 months for it. She just had to have the green color.

    2007 BMW 328i Sports Pkg, 1993 Honda Accord EXR (my 33rd car).

  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,694
    Funny, that's what a co-worked said yesterday when I mentioned it might be time for The Sandman to finally get a smart phone after resisting one for so long. I'm thinking of an Android unit as my kid has the Iphone and the wife has a Windows one. I've always been dragged into new technology kicking and screaming all the way! I just don't like change and at my age...a bit stubborn to do it!

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,108
    If you've never driven a BMW, don't unless you fully intend to buy one. Not because it would be a waste of a salesman's time, but because there is simply nothing else like it on this planet.

    100% agree with you and I've driven a ton of different cars. Although the 07 MX5 Miata I had for a week was fun as hell but not as comfy or solid as our 07 328i.

    2007 BMW 328i Sports Pkg, 1993 Honda Accord EXR (my 33rd car).

  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,694
    edited February 2013
    Did a lot to lot day today. My boss texted at 7:33 and said we have a job at 9 a m doing lot to lot, so I said sure. Ended up moving over 20 cars and minivans myself and there were 5 other folks in today's crew, so we moved a bunch of iron. Drove numerous brand new Focus SE's with mileage of 4 and under. Nice little sedans really with loads of pep...more when I do a complete review after having some extended seat time. The 4 Fusions left me lukewarm...modern styling, very Jaguaresque but something, I can't put my finger on it, makes it pale in comparison to the other players in this segment and nowhere near as good as the new benchmark of this crowd...the Honda Accord. But after a jaunt across southern Florida and then I'll be able to give a really full analysis here. The surprise of the day folks were the new Dodge minivans...all the contestants driven today were models with over 20k on their clocks so well used, and abused in the rental arena but I was impressed with the comfort, acceleration and overall goodness of these puppies... really impressed. One co-worker said that once I drive one for an extended period of time, you will truly enjoy them.

    There was a somewhat used Mustang vert which a couple of the other guys put aside for me since they know what a car nut I am, it's so hard to contain my excitement every day folks that it's obvious I'm a car dork! Now this was a fun ride...really fun. Hoping to secure one in the near future when we have a very mild day so I can drop the top and just do the Alley. Must remember to wear a cap as the top of my head is losing it's "lushness" as I put it...I will probably get a nasty sunburn on my scalp as I did once before at a graduation in New Hampshire on a really coolish spring day. I can't wait to drop the top and go though!

    Tomorrow is going to be interesting, not only are we going from Miami to Ft. Myers once...you guessed it, we're going twice! A double is what's on tap in Sandman Land. The drive is a really easy one actually and luckily, we're starting out at 8 a m...a bit late for me as a 6 a m leaving time would be preferable. But no one asked for my opinion yet so...! Funny how this started out to be a part time gig for me but it's so much fun, I told my chief to just call me whenever he gets anything since nothing is guaranteed and there will be weeks, I been told, that we'll only work 2 or 3 days...it's all dependent on what the clients need, and this is where that flexibility comes into play. Sure glad that this is not my only income as the lack of defined work hours would be a problem as no one is guaranteed a 40 hour week and we are all independent contractors to boot. I have no problem with this so we'll see where this new career takes me. And to be honest, getting the paycheck is just the icing on the cake for me here, I just love driving these vehicles!

    Tune in tomorrow, same Sandman time...same Sandman channel!

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,297
    edited February 2013
    Good to hear about the Dodge minivans. I'm really afraid that Dodge/Chrysler are going to screw them up (lose the sliders, etc.), but I may be switching to a hatch anyway when our van gets retired.

    Moderator
    Minivan fan. Feel free to message or email me - stever@edmunds.com.

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,178
    I like your reviews. Keep 'em coming if you have time!

    That's a shame about the Fusion. Was it a base model? Ford carried over the base engine from the previous model for the new base model 2013 Fusion. The up level models have smaller displacement turbocharged engines. I haven't looked at one up close, but the photos look great.
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,694
    A definite improvement overall from the previous generation but something about it just leaves me cold...right now. I've never been a "Ford person" as their styling never really did anything for me. But I have to admit the new Focus has taken me by surprise and in the hatch version, something I might consider parking in The Sandman's garage! I've been a diehard import fan since 1976 and have not looked back...ever! But this new Focus has me thinking in a different direction here.
    To be fair to the new Fusion, I will wait till I have some actual seat time behind the wheel to comment any further as I need information to back up my opinion...whatever that will be. I'm hoping that we'll have some longer runs in the near future with a Fusion available for my use. I will say though that it is a handsome vehicle that could appeal to either sex...it's very modern and has a rugged stance, a nice departure from most Ford products that have come to market recently. If it can sell the same number of units as the Camry and Accord still remains to be seen. I do congratulate Ford for thinking outside the box here though!

    The Insomniaic Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,694
    Congrats fellow posters...we're now posting on page 1500...whohoo!

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • steine13steine13 Posts: 2,414
    I have a question about swapping leases -- is there a way to make it waterproof for the buyer AND the seller?

    My nightmare would be to get a call after the car is turned in that I'm somehow on the hook for damage I didn't cause. That could happen both as the swapper or the swappee, if you know what I mean...

    Specifically, when I dump a leased car, is there a way to do the transfer with an inspection that transfers all future obligations to the new driver? A good inspection, presumably by a dealer of the brand, would also assure the person assuming the lease that there is no hidden damage.

    Or is this a case where everyone's on their own?
    What happens if poorly repaired body damage is found at turn-in?
    Who is on the hook?

    Cheers,
    -Mathias
  • steine13steine13 Posts: 2,414
    With an average moving speed of 26 mph I'm not too worried about road noise.

    As I recall, your actual average is 13 miles in 45 minutes to 1 h.

    You don't need an automatic car, you need a good, properly set up bicycle.

    I'm pushing 50, and I don't train, but I still average 15+ mph when I go on a long ride.

    See, that way, you'd get to keep the Miata...

    Cheers -Mathias
  • steine13steine13 Posts: 2,414
    If you took 15% of whatever you made during your working life and put it in a private retirement fund you would retire a millionaire. Just think, a Bimmer for every member of your family instead of a hooptie.

    I hope you were kidding.

    Fifteen percent socked away over a long career and average returns would not replace your income in retirement, unless it's very short. It would be a heck of a lot better than what most people are doing, though.

    I'm a big fan of the 401(k) system myself, but it's a failure overall... "you shall know them by the fruit they bear."

    Sorry for the off-topic post. This is one subject that gets my goat every time. S.S. has issues, but what are we comparing it to?

    Cheers -Mathias
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    62 views but not a single response to my ad so far. Cross your fingers for me.

    I did replace the OEM michelins with continentals

    That's plan B, get quieter and more compliant tires. It came with 140 summer gumballs. I wonder if taller side walls will fit? Maybe 205/50 instead of 205/45R17? The wheel wells seem HUGE. There's an SUV-like fender gap all around.

    Plan C is a whole new wheel/tire package, but the TPMS sensors add to the cost. $740 and up, basically. That's really not bad.

    Is there a chronic rim buyers thread? :D
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The surprise of the day folks were the new Dodge minivans

    Are there other vans you may be able to compare them to?

    I'm wondering if they're just comfy vs. the small cars you seem to drive a lot, or good even for a van.

    the top of my head is losing it's "lushness"

    Same here! Bring ear plugs for top down highway drives, too. Trust me.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    You'd make a good friend.

    Sending positive karma your way ... buy a lotto ticket or something. :shades:
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,297
    edited February 2013
    You're really selling the Miata? I thought you were just speculating.

    Do your kids know? :shades:

    Please tell me you are just trying to swap the rims.

    Moderator
    Minivan fan. Feel free to message or email me - stever@edmunds.com.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I'm always speculating. :shades:

    I am trying to swap rims, even put up an ad for that.

    My car shopping process begins the day after I buy a car, and usually goes on for about 7 or 8 years. :D
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,582
    Don't feel bad, Sandy. I don't have a cellular phone of any kind, and I have no plans of changing that any time soon. ;)
    2010 Subaru Forester, 2011 Ford Fiesta, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup, 1974 Ford Pinto Wagon
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