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MAZDA 3 ^ ^ ^ 2006 Wish List

trend39trend39 Posts: 5
edited March 21 in Mazda
This is the place to discuss wishes for future years.

IF you can get this forum sent to the Mazda designers & engineers, please do !

Keep in mind the pricing must stay below $20,000 US.

This is a list of several combined issues brought up in various forums.

1) Return to the Protege steering mechanism.
Will make it more fun to drive.

(This is a heavily discussed item) Users want a return of the awesome steering feel from the conventional belt-driven hydraulic assist. Users don't like the failed electrohydraulic steering "experiment".

2) *** Use the suspension from the Ford Focus SVT. Will add to it a Porsche level of handling.

3) The Protege had no body roll. It was flat in tight curves. Add some lowering springs.
This should help eliminate the body roll
that appeared as the Protoge evolved into the Mazda3. Ford SVT suspension would solve this.

4) Return to Protege seat adjuster cushion tilt knob

5) Redesign to eliminate the paint chipping
due to dirt "sandblasting" the side sill / skirt flares and rear bumber behind the tires.

6) Add alarm/remote starter

7) Better quality break rotors

8) Redesign the entire dash.
Current dash is too busy and harsh. Monitors are nnot pleasant to look at. The red lighting does not have mass appeal.
Radio/CD should allow owners to install their
own. Current dash design does not allow any other type. Very wierd.

7) Cold Weather Option: seats and mirrors

8) Safety Traction Control option

9) Bigger hatch handle and located above lisence plate. (People with snow gloves find small latch difficult)

10) Leather Seats are cheap plastic looking. Have the after market $900 seats become the standard leather.

11) Dampening noise in rear seat.
Find someway to do it!

12) Improve the visibility from drivers seat
out the back window.

13) 16" Wheels option
Less costly up keep than 17".

14) Add a less expensive 5 door entry model

Read this forum about steering and suspension.
mazdamp3 "Mazda3 vs. Protegé" Mar 13, 2004 2:44pm

PLEASE ADD TO THE LIST.

Comments

  • markg4markg4 Posts: 44
    when do the 05's come out? are there going to be any significant changes before 2006? i've never driven one but from what i have read the handling & suspention are excellent so why the changes? is it just personal preference? i like what i've seen of the dashboard myself. what is wrong with the rotors in the 2004? i like the 16" option as i think the 17" are overkill and expensive to replace myself. i currently have a 2000 civic si and am looking to buy an 05 mazda 3 5dr sometime next year btw. i am afraid to test drive one because i think i'll want one right away but from everything i've read its a great, well priced vehicle.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    so, is there anything you DO like? LOL

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    This just proves that you can start a totaly useless discussion and people will still post to it.
  • trend39trend39 Posts: 5
    Its almost perfect !

    The above list is the next level to aspire towards. I compiled the list after reading all
    the discussions here.

    If you had your choice, a 2004 M3 vs
    an M3 wth the above incorpoated, no doubt which
    one you would buy!
  • creakid1creakid1 Posts: 2,032
    "i've never driven one but from what i have read the handling & suspention are excellent so why the changes?"

    Oh ya? Let's be picky about it. The std RWD RX-8 w/ light-weight-mid-mount-engine handles even better yet ride less harshly. The ultra quiet Turanza LS-H tires still feels fine in my '90 Protege LX & manual-steering '84 Jetta, but I highly doubt Mazda3's electro-hydraulic-steering's somewhat too light & lack of meaty feel can tolerate this tire's numb feeling any further.

    No wonder this tire is the OEM 16" set up for the Euro-market Mazda3 1.6 w/ pure hydraulic steering but not here. Believe me, try this tire on your Mazda3 & watch the tire roar goes away!
  • creakid1creakid1 Posts: 2,032
    "12) Improve the visibility from drivers seat
    out the back window."

    Are you kidding me? How can you add the RX-8's rear glass by '06. LOL.

    Hope Santa is listening, but then there are always other "Focus" alternatives. The Mazda3 is really a Japanese Focus II. & there are other Focus copies w/ the Control Blade rear suspension such as the upcoming A3, Golf/Jetta V, Passat, etc:
    creakid1 "Mazda3 (Hatchback)" Jun 16, 2004 5:17am
    creakid1 "Mazda3 Sedan" Jun 10, 2004 1:27pm
    & they really offer a wider rear outward vision. Sorry, not for America. Sour grape -- they don't got Japanese quality anyway.
  • conallconall West TexasPosts: 91
    Any cloth seats will cause you to sweat a little in the summer, even with the A/C on. I still much prefer cloth, because it grabs/holds you a lot better if you want to throw your car into some corners. Unless, of course, you have some very high quality soft leather.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    wouldn't it be more precise to say the Focus in Europe is actually a European Mazda3? Mazda did all the engineering for this platform including the engines, and Ford just styled theirs a little differently, right?

    I liked the 3 hatch a lot when I drove it, and almost bought one. The dash LED lighting was a little weird, and I don't like having the radio display in a different place from its buttons. Besides that, a TON of tire roar, and my past experience with the Mazda dealer network, I loved the car and would have bought one.

    I don't agree with the above, though, that there should be a 3i hatch, which I assume to mean would use the smaller engine. I think that engine would be overtaxed by the weight and high profile of the hatch. If you simply mean there should be a version of the hatch without the sport package of exterior frills and larger rims, that might not be a bad idea.

    I wonder if anyone is buying this car with the optional NAV. A loaded 3 gets up a bit high in price, IMO.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • riopelleriopelle Posts: 132
    Mazda execs have repeatedly said the 2.3 is undertaxed and to expect more hp, so we should see a bump to perhaps 180 for 05 or 06. They ought to make available a winter package with heated seats, mirrors and traction control.

    How about a 3-door?
  • mz3ctmz3ct Posts: 23
    I agree - I think the car is almost perfect, particularly if you're coming from a honda accord or typical midsize vehicle. It has such a substantial feel to it and is so stable on the road. I agree the 17" wheels are a bit noisy, but only depending on the road condition. The engine is incredibly quiet. In regards to the dash - I LOVE IT - all of it - and would not change a thing - it's cohesive and beautiful, and I LOVE the red lighting with blue accents. The only improvement I agree with there is the traction control or AWD potential..basically, why not if it's an easy clutch pack assembly. Heated seats - do it in the 6. Suspension - seems excellent to me, particulary coming from a Honda. Brakes seem excellent too. IMO the leather is fine - it does pick up dirt and little fuzzies in the vent holes, but I think it looks better than other "shiny" leathers in other cars. More HP is always a good thing, and AWD - those would be nice in the future. It wouldn't make me trade my original 2004 3, however. I plan on keeping this one forever. I plan on buying the next generation 3 in 5 or 6 years for sure - I am hooked. For around 19k (invoice), it is by far teh best vehicle made today, inside and out.
  • creakid1creakid1 Posts: 2,032
    "I wonder if anyone is buying this car with the optional NAV. A loaded 3 gets up a bit high in price, IMO."

    jschaffer180 "Mazda3 vs Acura TSX" Jun 21, 2004 4:16am
  • creakid1creakid1 Posts: 2,032
    "wouldn't it be more precise to say the Focus in Europe is actually a European Mazda3? Mazda did all the engineering for this platform including the engines, and Ford just styled theirs a little differently, right?"

    You may call the '91-&-newer American Escort a Mazda 323/Protege. I actually saw cars w/ identical body style in Taiwan badged as either Mazda 323 or Ford Laser.

    But the Mazda3's platform is really an European-designed Focus platform w/ Control Blade rear suspension plus Volvo's input to improve crashworthiness, & together w/ the new front & rear subframes makes it the "Focus II" C-1 platform. Mazda retuned its steering-rack ratio & the sway-bar mounting points to be used on the Mazda3.

    The Focus II platform & the Mazda6 platform, eventhough somewhat similar w/ 4 links in the rear, are not the same. The Mazda6's platform will replace every non-RWD mid-size Ford of the future except the next European Mondeo sedan & Galaxy minivan, both of which are Focus II w/ extended wheelbase.

    Mazda's responsible for the development of some newer Ford's engines & maybe the transmission, but a Saturn Vue w/ Honda V6 is still a Saturn. & the current Passat is really an Audi even w/ VW's own 15-degree W8 engine.
  • jandd1jandd1 Posts: 35
    I would love to see the newer models available with 180 -185 HP and a 10% increase in Torque and make the modifications vailable to us if at all possible.

    The seats are good for the money and seem to look less vinyley as they wear in.

    I don't mind the steering feel - it has getting more responsive as the tires wear down.

    I would love if they made a short throw available (5 speed Hatch).

    Love the dash wouldn't touch a thing. There is room for an aftermarket stereo at the bottom compartment above the ashtray.
  • bunk1968bunk1968 Posts: 119
    It does not make a lot of sense to me that Mazda would change the horsepower on this car so soon.
    Maybe a Mazdaspeed version, but otherwise..??
    If there is a great chance that they are going to up the hp on the 3-hatch for 05, I would love to know. I would wait. I would just wonder how much the price would go up and what kind of gas mileage the larger hp engine would get?
    Does anyone know with any certainty that hp will go up in the 05?
    And if it is true that the hatch is top heavy will mazda so something to avoid rollovers?
    I thought this car hugged the road well with very very little body roll, but other posts seem to imply it is like drive a van at high speeds around sharp corners.
  • creakid1creakid1 Posts: 2,032
    It can't be. Any car with high chairs like the Mazda3 will feel like it's tilting more from the driver seat. But w/ the low center of gravity typical of a FWD car, it's still more stable than just about anything else.
  • conallconall West TexasPosts: 91
    Drive is very flat in my Mz3 sedan. More flat-cornering than my low-sitting Neon Sport ever was.
  • mpg60mpg60 Posts: 71
    Hi All,

    New to the site here. I am suprised no one has mentioned the article on Mazda's own web site on the press and praise section for the Mazda three. The article is putting the MMM back into Mazda. It indicates that by early 2005 that the 3 should receive a bump in horsepower to 200/240 with a possible awd version.

    I am waiting for the 05's
  • birdman579birdman579 Posts: 151
    The 3 will be available with AWD and 240-hp in the spring of '06. It'll be called the Mazdaspeed3. The engine will be a turbocharged version of the 2.3 liter with the Volvo S40's AWD system. Mazda has not stated if this car will be available as a sedan, hatch, or both. Of all the cars coming out in the next 2-3 years, this is the only car that I might consider. Otherwise, I plan to keep my 3 for 10+ years and 200K+ miles.

    Back on topic, the only change I want to see is variable intermittent wipers. The handling, steering, leather, and every other "problem" listed here is not a problem in a $16-20K vehicle. If you don't already own a 3, go buy one today! I love mine more every time I drive it :)
  • ramon1ramon1 Posts: 15
    How do you know this?

    Will the Mazdaspeed mods, excluding AWD, be available to existing 3 owners?
  • nedc2nedc2 Posts: 192
    I'd really like to see the 5 door availabele in a 3i version with the 2.0 l base engine and an interior in something other than black.
  • mz3ctmz3ct Posts: 23
    Good post. That was my plan exactly as well - a MazdaSpeed version w/ AWD would present a dilemma about an early trade-in...
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    An 8-way seat.

    A real latch for the hatch.

    Some way to directly hook my iPod to the stereo.
  • nospamnospam Posts: 54
    I would like to see the 160hp 2.3l been actualy faster than 130hp cars ....
  • carlisimocarlisimo Posts: 1,280
    I don't think the Mazdaspeed3 will have awd. It won't really need it, and it'd be harder to install it than in the 6.
  • creakid1creakid1 Posts: 2,032
    the MPS 3 turbo will keep the weight down by staying w/ FWD & the hp only peaks at 220 to prevent excessive torque steer.

    But the AWD hardware isn't hard to install, though. You can even convert the existing Focus platform w/ the Control Blade 4-link rear suspension into an RWD V8 muscle car by aftermarket conversions, as shown in a SEMA show.

    No wonder BMW almost adopted the Focus I platform in the late '90's for it's future entry-level car!

    The other Mazda3 -- the Volvo S40/V50 -- already offers AWD turbo cars now.
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