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2006 Chevrolet Impala

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  • oshawaoshawa Posts: 16
    If you want people to notice your driving an SS then just put the pedal down a little harder. ;) I think they'll get the picture.
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    re post #369......I would rather have people pull up beside me and say WOW look at that new Impala SS, look at those great wheels, those V8 emblems, that SUPER SPORT or IMPALA SS insignias. It just SS letters on the bottom of the front doors, at least the 2000-2004 Impalas said the word Impala on the sides....(the car has none of these) ......then I would floor it!

    Don't get me wrong. I am no knocking the car overall. But a few details could have made this car a much bigger eye catcher, and if I am going to spend $33,000 Canadian I want people to notice my car. When I saw the black 2006 parked beside the black 2005 today the 2005 caught my attention more....
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    Cars that catch the eyes of passers by
    Also catch the eyes of the local law enforcement agents...

    I would MUCH prefer a sleeper.
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    John: There is a difference between a sleeper then a car that looks asleep. All kidding aside, if I remember correctly you criticized Chevy for making the 2000-2005 Impala LS into a sleeper. Remember your posts about Chevy removing the coin holder, floor gear shift indicator, the name Impala from the outside front doors. Chevy was turning the Impala LS into a sleeper. Back then you didn't like a sleeper now you do. years back a sleeper was the CHEAPEST model you could buy but had the big engine, with no options, or markings. Not the most expensive model as this is. I, like most others want more then just performance for my $ when buying the top of the line Sports Sedan from a manufacturer. I know many of the top Japanese models like the Camry and Avalon have been criticized for being boring, Chevy had an opportunity to change that. Now its like the melting pot for cars!. Many auto critics have said other then performance, and being better built the car is bland. I say the car is OK! but not exciting. I remember when you talked about getting a Mazda 6, and a few other models you mentioned, all were sporty looking cars, no sleepers there!. But if I am correct you bought a Ford Five Hundred, that has also been criticized for blandness and lack of performance from its 3.0 litre engine. Ford has taken such a rap for this that they are speeding up refreshening the car next year, and also adding more power. Its all a matter of what you like......A real sleeper would be a STRIPPED base model Impala, with higher gear ratio, plain 18" wheels with the 5.3 V8!! ...
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    Perhaps a special Edition NASCAR or anniversary edition will come out with those things you want. I'm sure you can get an aftermarket Super Sport decal or something if you want Personally I don't care that much and don't need SS hitting me on the head every time I look at the car. There isn't much I would change really. The police and thieves tend to like cars that stand out too much (as was mentioned) and I don't need that either.
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    Your right about buying the decals/emblems, but I remember when Chevy was proud to have distinctive decals/emblems on all their Super Sports, thats one thing that made the SS cars special. Its obvious most of its heritage has been lost, but I guess thats just the times. I have had Impala SS cars from the past, been driving for 37 years never had a problem with the Police. Impala SS is not in the top 25 list of cars stolen in the USA. Don't worry-- feel safe!
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    You have an incredible memory! And an accurate one. And I have a Ford Five Hundred SEL AWD (with the CVT, of course) with about 34,000 miles on it so far. Yep, a larger engine would be nice. Yep, I am still looking at Impalas (and all kinds of other things). Yep, I may get the next Five Hundred with the 3.5L, but it looks that may be as long as Model Year 2008.

    About four relevant things to add here:

    *The things GM was taking out of the Impala (coin holder, PRNDL indicator, glove box light, etc.)...these things affected convenience as opposed to appearance. I wonder if any of them came back for 2006. Ford, by the way, is even more guilty of some of this. I see in some of the Impala pix the bright red light shining on the inside of the doors! Ford doesn't even have so much as a reflector on the Five Hundreds, at any trim level. To look at the visors of the Five Hundred is to laugh hysterically--they are not fitting for a Kia, much less a Five Hundred...Then again, Ford has priced this car aggressively and left out some things to do it...like an in glass antenna, a glove box light (stop giggling!), but it DOES have a LIT PRNDL indicator (but no real gears to indicate, tee hee).

    * I love the AWD even more than I thought I would. And though the power IS lacking, especially at the low-end, this 3800 pound car gets almost the mileage the Impala did on the highway, and does much better than the Chevy did in town. I wonder why GM isn't pushing ANY AWD cars yet...It's QUITE the omission (and a major reason I switched to FoMoCo after more than 10 years of non-Fords and only two Fords up til then).

    * As for drawing attention from law enforcement and thieves, I wonder how a Lincoln Zephyr would rate. Under neath all that Lincoln stuff is the bones of that same Mazda6 I looked at earlier, but without at least some of the NVH, and with a bit more room...The extra insulation and much better dealer service and warranty interest me, but I worry about driving a so-called luxury car (even if it isn't)..I still won't be interested in that car til the 3.5 and AWD debut, which I hear may be before the 3.5 is available on the Five Hundred/Montego.

    * For me, one of the best features of my 98 Grand Prix GTP is back in the Five Hundred--automatic climate control. How come Chevy doesn't include it, even as an option (or am I wrong?) on the Impala? Perhaps I don't want to buy a Buick, or deal with the local Buick dealers? Driving across country (which I do frequently) without having to constantly hassle with the climate control (now I am too hot, now I am too cold, now she is too hot, now she thinks I play with the climate controls too often....sheesh) is a major plus. I swan if GM offered automatic climate control on the Impala SS, I know a Ford Five Hundred that would be being traded in the next few weeks...it's THAT important to me....It's absence will keep me a Ford man for quite some time....and no, I do NOT want to drive a Buick, thank you. I never realized just how much I missed automatic climate control until I got it back again. Would I miss the AWD? Sure. But I'd still trade to get the V-8 if I could also keep my automatic climate control (assuming I am happy with the Chevy's driving dynamics when it comes out...which I figure I will be).

    I love these forums...and have gotten great advice here from time to time...
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    I don't think GM is ashamed (or is not proud ) to have "distinctive decals/emblems" on their Impala, it just that kind of thing is not really done in 2005. Excessive decals is what the tuner crowd is into but for a class car the like Impala SS, I just don't think it's what most buyer want these days. After market is what allows people to make their car into what they want which is why I suggested just adding the decals/emblems yourself.

    There is a distinct "SS" emblem on the back and both doors for the car in addition to the Impala emblem behind the rear windows. That's a lot more than you would find on a BMW M3 or a Cadillac V.
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    Post #375. John I couldn't agree with you more!......I know I sound like a critic about Chevy and thats all I have ever driven but when I see the Impala that has a great heritage (for those that remember) a model that was at one time #1 in sales, and in the top 2 for over 8 years. Motor Trends Car of the year a few times over. A few little extras offered to make the SS more appealing and more distinguishable from the LS/LT/LTZ Just look at the new Mustang. They built in a little heritage in with the Horse emblems, Cobra model is back, and retro gauges and 60's/70's styling and they can't make these fast enough. For those that are happy with the improvements made on the new SS car cudos to you. I do believe the SS will do well mainly because of the V8. At one time Impala had the longest list of options of any american car...and CHOICES SELL CARS!. Most everyone has a wish list, but some are always happy and go with the flow. I only knocked the five hundred because the car critics (like them or not) have pointed out a few things the car lacks, and that is also true with this new SS. The critics like the performance but the car falls short in styling. As we all know DC has done a great marketing job with their line of cars. They listened to the people They are exciting (for Mopar fans) because they gave the people something different and styling and performance are now #1

    ps: The PRNDL is not on the floor console of the 2006 Impala..(looks plain in my opinion) ...not sure if the coin holder came back. I agree with you AWD is now offered from many car manufactures. I hope their is a courtesy light under the hood, previous Impalas never had that. Just make the option list longer (wheels, interior colors, optional gauge package etc ) there are those that will pay!. Ask Chrysler.
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    Post #376........The Impala SS should be like it has always been more distinctive then the lower based Impalas...Look how well the 94-96 Impala SS did compared to the Caprice at that time The SS was much more distinctive with many appearance items that even today make these cars command high prices....as far as decals and emblems thats just a small part of making this car better.....emblems and decals not in for 2005 you say........then you better check out the 2005 Mustang, The next GTO ( will be more retro currently not selling well too bland), Dodge Charger has retro all over it (and they will do the same with the new Challenger coming soon) the Impala SS is not a grandfathers car, it is targeted at younger buyers (and heritage people who remember) then the base Impala is. The base Impala is targeted more for fleet and people who just want a comfortable family car. Chevy will market the SS as their sporty performance sedan.
  • dan165dan165 Posts: 653
    Not to be argumentative but the Mustang GT you mention for example has no more badging on it than the Impala SS. The Impala SS has 2 Impala badges and 3 SS badges not to even mention 2 Chevy bowties and 2 "GM" decals. What more do you want? I popped in and took a look at an SS today and you can spot it right away with it's big 18" wheels, muscular rims, twin chrome exhaust and SS badging. I don't think you need to worry so much about people not knowing what they are look at when they see your car, they will get it.
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    As stated in the previous post the RIGHT emblems or trim are just a small part of making a car look good....I think the SS door emblems are too low on the doors, if you don't share my opinion, so be it... I hope you don't think everyone should like what I like or even what you like! we all have our opinions and I gave mine. If you think the rims are muscular thats fine, they look plain to me kind of pan like. Check out other Impala forums and even many of the articles written on this car and you will see that others also think the car could have been a little more exciting! if you disagree so be it!
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    Of course this car could be more exciting, but it's a mainstream sedan not a sport coupe. GM is not going to risk 200K+ annual sales to go off the wall with emblems and styling. If you want more excitement GTO, Charger or Mustang should be what you are looking at. GM hit the target with this car, conservative attractive styling with a SS version for the family man who wants to have a little fun on the way home. Sure beats the heck out of Camcords, 500, Altima and other sedans it will be competing with in styling, models, interior and power. Chevy has done a fine job here and they will never satisfy everyone, but I think for most the car is pretty close to what they would want.
  • hammen2hammen2 Posts: 1,313
    The next GTO ( will be more retro currently not selling well too bland)

    Actually, while I agree that the next GTO will unfortunately be more retro than the current model, the 2005's are actually selling better than expected - so much so that GM had to remove them from the Employee Price for Everyone promo, because there were only 400 of them left on dealer lots across the U.S. (until another boat docks).

    Back to the Impala discussion... I didn't like the tails on the 00-05 Impala, but, after seeing the current car at the Chicago Auto Show back in February, I have to say that it misses having this styling touch to its predecessors (odd that some Cobalt models now have similar 00-05 Impala style tails). The car looks like a modern version of my '96 Lumina - which was a very solid and reliable, but relatively boring car to drive (sold mine to my wife's aunt, after buying my Aurora). The interior of the previous Impala was a complete turn-off, but the new one looks nice. With the addition of the V-8 models I would expect them to sell at least as well, if not more, than the previous model, assuming the 3.5 and 3.9 prove to be trouble-free...

    --Robert
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    .When the GTO came out in 2004 it was a lame duck......GM did everything to sell these things......why didn't it sell?.....because it wasn't retro enough to wear the GTO name. Thousands of 60's 70's GTO followers voiced their concerns and GM listened!. GM usually never listens thats why they are in FINANCIAL CRISIS.... A young person like yourself just doesn't understand how important the connection between the present and past is with cars

    The car is now selling better and will continue at the next refreshening because GM knows with a little more retro with a RETRO NAME cars sell!...Thousands of 60's & 70's GTO supporters voiced their dislike about the 2004 car when it came out and Pontiac had to listen.....(Pontiac's division is not doing very well) ...eg. Chrylser 300, Mustang, the Corvette has had retro built in since day 1 .....

    Changes to the 2005 GTO

    ......5.7 Litre V8 dumped for the new 6.0 Litre 400 V8
    .....New dual exhaust system
    .....Revised rear Fascia
    ....NEW BADGING 6.0 Litre badges put on the car, similar to what the 1964 GTO had.(RETRO!!) ...thats important to GTO lovers from the past, who know more about GTO then many of the new young GTO buyers today. I was there in 64 when the GTO came out. It set the standard for an American performance car. I know its hard for young people to understand. But ou just can't make a car and put a Heritage name on it without building in some of the past.

    ....Bigger and Better Brakes
    ... Hood design with dual hood scoops like the 60's GTO more! (RETRO!!)

    These are the reasons the car is and will sell better. There are more GTO people from the past then the new buyers today who just don't understand.

    If everyone was satisfied with the way the car was in 2004 it would be the same in 2005............see how these appearance changes made the car a much better seller

    The 2006 Impala SS is OK! but it lacks the enthusiasm/excitement that previous Impala SS cars had ...ask anyone who were Impala SS owners from the past

    Vanman 1.

    I am happy for you that you are TOTALLY 100% happy with the improvements on this 2006 Impala SS.....If there were no people like myself voicing for some other improvements nothing would ever change....

    .....In 1 year the GTO is a testimonial to that..........they listened to those that wanted improvements, if you build it they will come.

    Young buyers today just don't understand, how important retro is with a retro name.
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    GM is not going to risk 200K in sales to make the car exciting you say. The SS has conservative attractive styling.

    Over 40% of Impala's sales are Fleet Rentals, Leased, Police etc. The Impala LS/LT/LTZ will make up the bulk of the rest of sales to the public...the SS will sell the remaining, maybe 25 to 35,000....(thats a long way from your 200K) GM should not (risk) or take a chance to spice this car up a bit. Thats one reason GM is in a financial mess. They sold off their Geo division a few years back (boring cars) Oldsmobile division bit the dust 2 years ago, why because they didn't make exciting cars anymore!! . Read what the car enthusiasts say! During the past year Pontiac is now losing ground and could be the next division to go. All GM's divisions were up with this employee pricing program except (Pontiac sales dropped 14.1% in June)

    You say the SS has nice CONSERVATIVE styling......Chevy din't call the car the Impala Conservative, its called the Impala SS (SUPER SPORT) what do the words SUPER SPORT mean? They don't mean conservative......conservative styling is what you would describe the Impala LS/LT/LTZ.

    Watch what the car critics say about this car........when Motor Trend, Car and Driver do full road test report on the SS, I believe they will say the V8 is a nice addtion to ad performance, the car is built stronger BUT!! a little more attention should have been made to make the car a little more sportier then the other Impala models. This car will compete with the Dodge Charger R/T, no conservatism there!

    I do believe the big three have come a long way in the past 3 years in building better vehicles.....they had to, but so have the Japanese. The Japanese cars still have a couple edges over the American cars. They can build quality in to them for less, because they don't have the legacy costs that the big three have, (and wlll continue to grow) and the Japanese cars have a MUCH better resale value, and those two points are very important to consumers of automobiles.

    .
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    GM discontinued the Geo part of Chevrolet.

    It was never a division.

    It didn't sell it.

    No one bought it.

    It marketed cars either produced in concert with Toyota (the Prizm, for example), or by other GM affiliates or companies not even affiliated with GM.

    Dropping it was a marketing move, plain and simple. It required no great moves with state franchise laws, as would dropping Buick or Pontiac. I believe you will find GM learned a very expensive lesson when it dropped Oldsmobile.
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    I believe GM sort of let Oldsmobile fade away......they had a few cross-over cars that competed too much with Chevrolet & Pontiac...at one time Oldsmobile was one of the most important divisions GM had......the Cutlass. Oldsmobile 88, 98, Intrigue......up here in Ontario (Canada) we have too many Korean Chevrolet/Pontiac models......Chevrolet Optra,& Epica, Pontiac Wave, & Pursuit.....

    I don't know if GM can really get over this financial mess they are in, with the truck market going soft (high gas prices) & almost 60% of the vehicles that Chevrolet sells are trucks that generate huge profits per vehicle, and only a few car lines like the Impala, Malibu and Cobalt in the top 10 that don't really generate a lot of profit, something else will have to give! Its going to be interesting.
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    I'm just stating my opinion.. I think the Impala is certainly as or more attractive than it's competitors like the Camcords and Altima. You seem to want Impala to be something retro now which I don't see any company doing with a main stream high volume car. Is that hard to understand? It's a business and with big volume cars you are talking billions of dollars in sales. Your issues with the Impala have gone from not enough Super Sport decals to not being like a much lower volume Mustang or a GTO in excitement to now not being "retro" enough ("important retro is with a retro name" you said). I don't think anything short of a 400hp 65 Impala shaped car with Super Sport written all over it would make you happy.

    What would you do to make the SS better that it is? What exactly? All the things other car makers do to make their performance line to make them look the part have been done to the SS version of the Impala. :confuse:
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    Perhaps more from GM's standpoint, what would charts do to the Impala that would result in more sales gained than lost?

    An easy answer is that perhaps an optional package should be available with the things he is wanting, and those willing can pay for it, while the rest of us can skip it.

    I do NOT want my cars to stand out. I want to be part of the anonymous herd, except for my own driving experience. Decals and the like bring attention I don't want, from law enforcement and thieves....
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