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2006 Chevrolet Impala

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  • Here is a part of a recent Edmunds.com article:

    "GM designers and engineers continue to finesse details on the future Camaro and companion models, including a proposed rear-drive replacement for the Chevy Impala sedan, said to be inspired by the classic 1965-'67 Impala series." :D

    I can't wait for it to come out, if it does. If GM really does it how it is supposed to be done - CORRECTLY - they will have a hit that could possibly be bigger than the '94-'96 Impala SS.

    They must fix the semi-boring style (inside and out), and they should really try and make the Imp handle like a BMW 3. If GM fires the bean-counters and pulls out all the stops, I (and hopefully hundreds of thousands) will buy one.

    Go here for the rest of the article: More Details on 2010 Chevrolet Camaro
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    I beg to differ. RWD is all the "thing" right now due to the Chrysler 300, but when I was growing up it was a disaster; I spun out two RWD cars (a '60's Impala, ironically enough, and a late '80s BMW) so I am very greatful for FWD. And the spin outs where on a dry street/highway, imagine what you could do in the midwest in snow!

    While stability control tames a lot of the issues with RWD, RWD weighs more and eats into passenger and trunk space.

    If Chevy "really" wants to pull out all the stops, they could go to AWD, which also adds weight but also eats into gas mileage; but since the Impala is a mass market car with pricing constraints, FWD makes more sense to me.

    That having been said, I think the Impala needs a lot of suspension tuning and better stock tires. Their is no reason for a modern Impala to handle like granddad's Crown Victoria.

    Chevy has (or used to have) some good suspension engineers, and used to offer "sport" suspension as a nominal cost upgrade - stiffer shocks and springs, bushings, better calibration. I would be happy if they would reintroduce such suspension upgrades as an option along with other options like ABS, and included better tires; or if Chevy just tuned up the suspension across all trim lines to be closer to SS levels, but without the ultra-low profile, low sidewally tires on the SS.

    Even the '07 Camry has been retuned for better handling.

    Keep in mind GM does have a great RWD car in their Cadillac line, where customers are willing to pay the extra charges and give up some "family car" efficienty; and that the ultraperformance GTO, another great RWD, is being dropped due to lack of sales.

    So I don't think RWD is the magic bullet to selling more Impalas (don't they sell enough already? it is the modern Taurus).

    A sidebar on the two most popular current American RWD cars, the LX series from Chrysler and the Mustang: The LX cars aren't selling well, except the 300, which sells mainly due to its exceptional styling. On the 300, the typical customer is more interested in 18" wheels than in the ability to handle well or deal with snow well. In fact, except for the high performance models, the LX cars don't handle any better than most FWD cars (although the LX's have less understeer, not necessarily a good thing for poor drivers).

    RWD was no-brainer for Chrysler because it could draw on some very well-proven, although long in the tooth, Mercedes RWD technology; because Chrysler had access to a good, well-proven stability control system to keep its drivers (mostly) out of trouble on reduced traction (rain and snow) roads; and because RWD lends itself well (north south packaging) to the HEMI V-8.

    RWD is a no-brainer for Ford in the Mustang (which sells well mostly due to styling and pricing, not due to RWD) because Ford has been recyling old RWD techonology since teh Mustang came out in '64, and on basically the same (until 2005) chassis.

    It's obviously possible to build economical, great handling FWD cars - the Mazda3 is a good example (I'd say VW too, but they have dropped the ball on the non-GTi's.)

    It's also possible to build poor-handling, borderline dangerous RWD vehicles - the Crown Victoria and a whole slew of trucks and SUV's prove that.

    I'll stick with FWD, except in real enthusiast cars, and even there RWD doesn't triumph (mid-engine and AWD are probably the winners).
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    I was only talking about the the upcoming 6-speed transmission and with it, presumably better gas mileage on all models.

    I hope more tweaks will coming in 2007.
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    I don't think there will be many changes on the 07 Impala. Maybe a new color or two or a small change in options list. The 6 speed might be available on the Impala models in 08 but not the SS model. My understanding is the 6 speed is only capable of handling up to 250 hp. The 2006 Impala stops production in late June.
  • Along with the popping & clicking noise in the dash, the seat heaters are starting to malfunction. It usually only happens when the temperature is below freezing(you know,when you need it the most)the seat heater will come on for a few seconds & will shut off, then they will not come on at all. If you shut the car off & let it set for awhile,they may or may not start working again. Started out just the drivers seat doing this,now the passenger seat is doing it as well. Dealership tried reprograming the BCM,but that didn't help. Anybody else have/had this problem? Any ideas?
  • I had the same problem with my seats. It started with the passenger seat. The day I picked up the car. The dealer did some things and it worked. What they did I don't know. I will try to find out and re-post
  • I had a bad transmission leak, The dealer did a good job at fixing it , but I think it is because of the torque in the transmission. It might only happen if you put your foot into it but if a car is going to have that much power it should be able to handle it.
  • axle52axle52 Posts: 36
    Hi

    Ive had both problems in my 06 impala. the dealership added extra insulation under the dash and it seems to have done the trick. I have also had problems with the heated seats. Mine is on the drivers side. It corrects itself after the car is restarted. If someone finds out what is causing it let us know.
  • Ray,
    How do you like your 05 GXP. I drove a 2006 GXP rental and I really liked it. Considering it and Impala SS for a car later this year. What kind of mileage do you get? It has the DoD 5.3, yes?

    Thanks,
    bubbaman999
  • jz68jz68 Posts: 61
    I test drove a 2006 GXP before buying the Impala. The reason I didn't go with the Pontiac was because of head room. I'm 6'2 and my head was hitting the ceiling with the seat in a comfortable position. I would have had to recline it way to far back in order to clear. The headroom in the Impala isn't great but is much better than the GXP.

    I just wish the Impala had the HUD.
  • The new Impala has been growing on me for awhile. It and the Buick Lucerne have piqued my interest (that and the substantially-below EPA estimate mileage I get with my '04 Escape.)
    I was dissapointed to see I could not build an SS w/ heated leather and heated mirrors. Really a nice feature for icy Pittsburgh. Possibly an option for later years?
    An LTZ w/ the silver dash treatment works too, but just doesn't have the excitement factor of a V8. (I've never been a fake-wood fan. Make it a texture, metallic, or piano black. . . )
  • bh0001bh0001 Posts: 340
    Are you sure about the heated seats and mirrors? I just checked and it looks to me like you can have both the heated leather seats and heated mirrors on the SS without a problem. I have a black LTZ with ebony cloth interior and silver dash treatment - looks great, and has a nice amount of power. I'm REALLY happy with my new Impala!
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    Heated mirrors are included in Convenience Package UG1, MSRP $240, together with auto-dimming inside mirror.

    To my understanding, if Impala SS have leather seats, they are heated. It is not an option. The same with power seats, including the passenger seat.

    I would suggest to go to Chevrolet.com, search for Impala SS at local dealers, and click on "View Window Sticker".
  • axle52axle52 Posts: 36
    Hi.

    I mentioned that I have the same problem with the heated seats. It happened again tonite. The temperature outside was -6 C. I turned on the driver side heated seat and it turned off by itself after a few minutes of driving. I tried turning it on again but it wouldn't stay on more than a few seconds. After I turned the car off and retarted it, the driver side heated seat returned to working normally. Please find out for us readers what the problem is and how your dealer corrected the problem. Your reply will be greatly appreciated.
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,496
    “How do you like your 05 GXP. I drove a 2006 GXP rental and I really liked it”

    It is a hoot to drive. I enjoy it a lot.

    Where did you rent a GXP?

    The differences between the GXP and the SS that I am aware of include:

    Number 1, the GXP drivetrain is ALMOST the same as the SS. For me, the SS lacks one critically important drivetrain feature. TAP Shift. This manumatic function is seen by some as a ‘gimmick’. I have this feature on my past 3 sedans. I find that (given I cannot and would not want to drive a car with a traditional manual trans. in 90+% of my driving) the additional control offered by this feature significantly enhances my driving enjoyment.

    Number 2: The Bilstein dampers are a significant (and expensive) upgrade to the ride / handling balancing act. I find that the ride \ handling compromise is particularly well done, given FWD and the extreme front weight bias – and Number 2.5.

    Number 2.5: The GXP’s wheel \ tire package represents a significant upgrade over the SS. These are quite aggressive. Particularly the 255 / 45 front Potenzas.

    Number 3: The brakes on the GXP are significantly upgraded (larger & cross drilled) vs the SS.

    Number 4: I prefer the bolstering \ lateral support of the seats in my GXP – they provide better comfort for me.

    Number 5: The HUD available in the GXP is very well executed. I appreciate it, and I rarely have to look to the instrument panel in typical driving.

    Does the SS have Stabilitrac Sport?

    I happen prefer the styling of the (forged, lightweight) wheels on the GXP. But whether or not that difference matters to anyone else is purely subjective.
    Like all of the other (interior and exterior) styling differences.

    To each his \ her own . .

    - Ray
    Greatly preferring the GXP’s styling vs the SS as well . . .
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,496
    I have posted most of the on the GP board, so . . .

    My gas mileage is “fine”.

    Details:

    First – highway MPG: I have achieved over 22 MPG for a full tank only twice in over 8,000 miles. Both were close to ‘ideal’ “real-world” conditions. (Sounds like an oxymoron, but what I mean is: In the “real-world”, I am NOT constrained by the EPA test limits on rate of acceleration when I merge or pass or leave a traffic light. In the real world, roads have at least some traffic and I am constrained largely (on Interstates) by local speed enforcement rather than EPA test max speed (still 60 MPH!!) and I am free to drive with my A/C on. ‘Ideal’ conditions mean relatively light traffic, cool enough ambient temps to be comfortable without the A/C compressor running, cool enough that the air is relatively dense, and mostly running on roads with little significant elevation change. And only me in the car, and a weekend case.

    My overall fuel mileage now stands at 19.1. But if I remove the 2 ‘best’ tanks from the spreadsheet, the average drops closer to 18.5.

    Second, I am satisfied with the overall fuel mileage, given the available performance & how often I utilize it. (Many smiles per gallon, thank you.)

    My “around town” MPG reflects the fact that I really enjoy the V8’s acceleration. And I use it whenever I (safely) can. And I use all of it. WOT. Often. Thus I do not achieve the EPA estimate there. No big surprise.

    [ The acceleration is really the one dynamic performance aspect where I feel like I can legally and safely utilize 100% of the available HP & TQ on public roads. Perhaps not for long at any given time, as more than 10 or 15 seconds of WOT will have this car moving faster than any open road speed limit in the US. But compared to lateral acceleration & braking, it is a thrill that I can regularly enjoy, asking it to deliver all the power that it has to give. This is something that I can enjoy - every time I drive it! ]

    Although I have seen (and quoted here) that GM states DoD can function at up to 80 MPH under absolutely ideal conditions, my feeling is that in the real world, the slightest headwind, acceleration to pass, or uphill incline, etc. will result in DoD = off.

    And the point in the fuel mileage vs MPH curve where above a certain MPH, under certain specific conditions, DoD will not engage - likely results in a sharp drop in MPG. In fact, it will result in a discontinuity (??) in the curve. Meaning a straight drop, where DoD disengages, then a continuation of the downward sloping curve – at a lower MPG level as speed continues to rise.

    For example. One might expect a somewhat linear drop in MPG as speed rises across the range of typical US highway travel. (Yes, I know, not really linear and not over all speed ranges, etc)

    But for purposes of illustration here - If I assume that at an absolutely steady speed of 60 MPH, my GXP can achieve 30 MPG, then at 65 it might be capable of 28 and at 70 it might be 26 and at 75 it might be 24 and at 80 it might be 22 and at 85 MPH, 20 MPG.

    If DoD is operable up to 70, but will not engage starting at say 73.14159 MPH for instance, the numbers might then look like this:

    MPH\MPG

    60 – 30 (DoD on)
    65 – 28 (DoD on)
    70 – 26 (DoD on)
    75 – 20 (No DoD - instead of 24)
    80 – 18 (No DoD - instead of 22)

    I am making these numbers up, but I believe they are in the range of possibility \ reality for my GXP.

    This would mean that exceeding the DoD engagement threshold would cost something like an additional 20 or more percent (24 with DoD vs. 20 at 75 MPH without DoD and 22 vs. 18 at 80, etc.) beyond the expected decrease as speed rises beyond whatever that critical speed actually is. My driving suggests that the speed where DoD does not engage in ** my ** typical driving is between 70 and 75.

    But that’s just me speculating.

    YMMV.

    - Ray
    Still enjoying the drive – and not obsessing about MPG . . (?)
  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    For what it's worth, I have a theory on what's causing the seats to spontaneously shut off. When I purchased my car(off the showroom floor), it's battery had completely discharged (due to constant door openings, etc.) After jump-starting the car, I took an extended test drive and tried to use the heated seats. They kept shutting off the way you're describing. From my experience with troubleshooting electronics, some switches (solenoids particularly) won't operate properly if the system voltage is low. In my case, the car battery had discharged but hadn't fully recharged after the jump start. The switches for the heated seats are electronic and I'm g€guessing they are turning off due to insufficient voltage. After my battery had fully recharged, I never experienced the problem again. Since you live in an extremely cold climate, your battery may be unable to supply the minimum voltage until after the car has warmed up. Hope this helps!
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,048
    As soon as the motor was started, the alternator would have been putting out 15.5 or higher volts as it recharged the battery. All things in the car should have operated correctly. As the battery was recharged the voltage would drop down to maybe 14.5 while it's running.
  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    Has anyone had any problems with the new "Black Tie" stereo? Particularly, at anything below about 50% volume or even while the door chime sounds, I hear a background hiss. The best way I can describe it is that it sounds like a cassette tape without Dolby noise reduction. I have yet to address this with the dealer because it's only a minor annoyance but it is something I want corrected. My system is the Bose six-disc changer. Thanks!
  • quietpro, the hiss at lower volumes is now legend with '06 Impala Bose systems. You described it most adequately. Go back a few months in this forum (Sep - Dec), and you'll see a bunch of our posts on the topic. Haven't seen a single post on a fix, but if you're so inclined, see what your dealer says. Can't hurt.

    I usually have the volume somewhere around the middle, where it's not noticeable, especially when you're moving (road noise, wind noise, and dash blower fan all mask it).

    But I hear you -- shouldn't be there, not for the price they charged for the Bose upgrade. Otherwise, it's a pretty sweet system, with awesome clarity.
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