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2006 Chevrolet Impala



  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    It all seems to me as the grass-in-greener-on-the-other-side-of-the-fence syndrome. It's not unlike the craze about stick-shifts. Generations have only driven automatics, but just because some talking heads in the press drool about it, everybody forgot about the left-leg pains driving it in bumper-to-bumper traffic. Yet, the same talking heads pretend to ignore that automatics have improved quite a bit with the addition of computer control and its integration with the engine's, brake's and body's computers.

    The last RWD car I've owned was a Chevette in the early 90's, so it doesn't quite count. Yet, I totaled it after it oversteered on a puddle at 60MPH in the middle of summer.

    I do agree with what you said about RWD, but I'm afraid that you're picturing only the virtues of RWD and only the vices of FWD. Electronics can only do so much and it won't perform miracles on either FWD or RWD without changing the laws of physics. Pushing the limits, a FWD will perform like a FWD and a RWD, like a RWD.

    The bottom line is that neither is perfect for every application, but I guess that it's fair to say that FWD is quite fine for mildly powered family sedans and that RWD is better for high power cars.

    I'd be glad to drive a RWD Impala, provided it doesn't have a live axle and is mated to more modern powertrains than nowadays, LS4 included. We'll see what a crippled GM is able to do.
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    Off topic: RE: FWD versus RWD.. A couple other factors regarding RWD cars of today. Back in the 70s to mid 80s wheel sizes of full sized RWD cars were generally 15". Today we talk upwards 18"-20" that puts a larger footpath down and propels a heavy car easier then its smaller predecessor. Also tire quality including grip/handling is much more advanced today then 25 years ago. Tires play a major roll in handling. The 2006 Pontiac GXP has been tested and outperforms the current 2006 Impala SS in handling because it has larger tires (footprint) at the front then the Impala.
  • gened1gened1 Posts: 256
    The same thing. High performance dry pavement is one thing but when the weather /pavement turns inclement then what happens. Also While wide low aspect ratio tires might be great for dry conditions,I think it has been proven that narrower tires are the way to go in snow and questionable sufaced roads.
  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    Correct, footprint has inverse traction characteristics from dry pavement to snow. Thinner tires have more weight per surface area and are better able to "cut" through or dig into the snow. I mentioned in an earlier post about my '87 Dodge Shadow which had relatively wide tires for it's weight. That plus the fact that they were engineered for dry pavement made that car horrible in the snow. My other car at the time, an '88 Ford Escort was nearly unstoppable. I believe it had 165s whereas the Shadow had 205s (nearly 25% more rubber on the road). More contact patch does not automatically mean better traction.
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    The 2006 Impala SS tires are probably more capable performance tires on dry pavement then on wet. If living in the northern states its often reccommended that FWD cars use 4 winter tires for those driving a lot in snow-ice conditions. 4 premium winter type tires instead of 2 on a FWD car will enhance handling and stability substantially in winter conditions.
  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    It all seems to me as the grass-in-greener-on-the-other-side-of-the-fence syndrome.

    I just re-read this and I don't particularly like the assumption that I "think" I like RWD because it isn't available. I've driven as many years in RWD as FWD and have no misconceptions about either. Don't assume you know someone else's preferences better than they do. It's too bad they don't have FWD go carts in the amusement park slick tracks. That would be a fun and safe way to show the FWD proponents just how big a disadvantage FWD is. :D
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    It's too bad they don't have FWD go carts in the amusement park slick tracks.

    You just proved my point about you ignoring the vices of RWD and only focusing on the vices of FWD.

    Go-karts may be fun on closed tracks, but nobody drives a car on public roads the same way. Or shouldn't as it's perhaps a traffic violation anywhere.
  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    I'm not ignoring anything. In my experience, RWD has no real vice. I acknowledged that average drivers may feel that RWD is less capable in limited traction situations but that I have never had an issue with it.

    By the way, I have driven in the mountains and hills of WV and NH in all conditions. In WV, the roads are often too small for snow plows which often means the snow is left to be compressed into ice with ruts carved by the vehicle traffic. It can be very challenging but again, I never had any major issues with it.

    The slick tracks would immediately show the disadvantage of having both power and steering on the same wheels. Maybe your point is that the slick tracks aren't as slippery as snow and ice and that there would never be an instance where traction would be limited enough to keep a vehicle from getting out of a parking spot. Other than that, I don't see your point.
  • gocasskingsgocasskings Posts: 30
    Just another of my many issues with this car. We have the first 90 degree day and I have no air. Wonderful. Guess the service tech gets to see me again. It has been a couple of months since the car visited its other home.
  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    Just curious, have you tried cycling through the controls? I had my car stick in defrost mode once and another time, the AC compressor didn't engage until I cycled through the settings. So far, no other instances. Figured it would be worth a shot...especially if it saves you from a "could not duplicate" visit. I really hate those! ;)
  • gocasskingsgocasskings Posts: 30
    I appreciate the input, but have tried everything I can imagine without pulling the buttons off and rearranging them. Dark interior, car sitting out in the open at a baseball game, and near 100 degree temperatures does not make for a pleasant drive home when the air is non-existent. I, too, hate the "cannot duplicate" line, but have ended up with all of those things being duplicated at some point. That is really why I started checking this site out. I was having so many problems and the service manager was assuring me that they were unique to my vehicle. Many started as "not able to duplicates", but they eventually got on the same page I was and listened.
    Most of the problems that I had have not been mentioned here, but a few have, so it reassured me that I was not going crazy. I hate to bite the bullet on this one, but I really think this car will be history in my life relatively soon. My trust in anything about it is about gone.
  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    Sorry to hear that but I can relate. So far, my problems are minor and rank as nuisances. If it is to the point of trading, you might want to check with the Better Business Bureau and let Chevy know you've reached the point of no return. Hopefully, they'll give you some options you may be willing to accept. I am really trying to give Chevy and GM the benefit of the doubt. In the past, they have been willing to help and I think the current business climate has made them more willing than ever to try to work out the issues with their products. From the sound of it, you have a legitimate problem which they should want to make right. For what that's worth... :confuse:
  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    Finally had a chance to test the recirc issue. Wouldn't ya know it, mine does the exact same thing. I think it has to be a programming glitch because why else wouldn't the light automatically come on? Mine has the AC engaged regardless of whether the AC light is on. I'm sure (because I've known people who think this) there are lots of folks out there thinking they're getting some kind of non-AC cooling and thinking they're saving fuel by "not" using the AC. Reminds me of the old Bi-Level setting that many thought didn't engage the AC. Oh well, at least it's a consistent bug/issue. Thanks for pointing it out. :P
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    Sorry to hear about your problems with your Impala. If its not too far away check out a different chevy dealership. You don't have to go to the one you bought your car from. Service department knowledge can vary greatly from dealership to dealership. Believe me I have been in your position with issues over the years.
  • I had dealt with customer service as I began checking this site. I had finally thought the problems were dealt with that had caused my grief. (I do understand that there are little things that can go wrong; I've just had too many of those.) For my concerns, I was given an oil change and tire rotation.) They also said my next step was the BBB, but I had decided to wait. This problem is the one that takes it to that level though. I have nothing to lose.
    I am still a little concerned about the previous issues (Posts 1212 and 1551) as they always happened on the coldest Indiana days. What happens this winter?

    I still am not sure what the service battery charging system was supposed to mean, but the ONSTAR people told me to park the car. So encouraging.......

    I am not too far from another dealership, but I don't really think that has been the problem other than one visit when I dealt with a different service manager. I won't even talk to anyone other than "my favorite" anymore. He at least listens and tries to be reassuring that this is not the norm and that they don't like the repeated visits any more than I do.

    I do have quite a stack of service write ups that could probably wallpaper my living room.
  • dispencer1dispencer1 Posts: 489
    Kind of ironic that people like Deming taught the Japanese how to run efficient and effective companies.
  • dispencer1dispencer1 Posts: 489
    The excuse is that the replacement for freon doesn't do as good a job on cooling. This is BS. My 2000 Mustang will freeze you out of the car -most effective cooling system I've ever seen and the 2006 Impala doesn't do nearly as good a job. Perhaps GM should find out how Ford does it.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,040
    My leSabres will freeze me out like the local Burger King does (they must have temp set at 60 in that place). There's gotta be something wrong in the system operation there in a temperature door or something?
  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    The excuse is that the replacement for freon doesn't do as good a job on cooling.

    I would't accept that excuse. My '06 SS is plenty cold. The only difference I've noticed is that it may take a few seconds (10-15) to feel the ultra cold air. Aside from that, mine works as well as any AC I've ever been exposed to. I rarely have to run mine above the second lowest fan setting and never for an extended time. For the record, I live in SC with mid-90s lately and super high humidity and my SS is black with black leather interior. I HAVE had my windows tinted with the semi-metallic (fully U.S. legal) window tinting that claims to reduce heat by 50% (through the glass). I am cool and comfortable. My only (small) concern is that I can hear the AC compressor when it's running; when turning/parking/etc. Sounds like a very soft moaning-whirr. Similar but much quieter than a power steering pump.
  • jcooleyjcooley Posts: 46 says 280,000 06 Impalas have been built. Sold 23700 in May. Pretty good number for the 06 Impala.
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