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Saab Maintenance and Repair

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,324
    Really you CAN'T be that bad. I think the clutch was no good. Only 800 miles? I don't think I could burn one out that quick even if I tried.

    Well, you know the drill now. Easy does it. I'd like to see that old clutch plate and pressure plate, I would I would.

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  • punkeyepunkeye Posts: 30
    I've decided that I am going to try to replace the clutch myself with an hydraulically aspirated conversion kit. So I should have an opportunity to send you some detailed pictures of the old pressure and clutch plates. While I am at it, I might as well inspect the transmission for any damage. It's all a matter of finding the time. Before your response, I was feeling pretty darned low. Thanks for the redeeming remarks!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,324
    I'd say that if the clutch face is burned down to the rivets, this might be your fault; but if you find loose parts in the pressure plate, or broken springs, then the pressure plate might have destroyed the clutch.

    What puzzles me is that you should have had a lot of warning that the clutch was going out---plenty of slippage, and a real change in the feel of the clutch pedal and in the smoothness of the shifts.

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  • punkeyepunkeye Posts: 30
    Yeah, I remember the clutch slipping in all the forward gears but not a change in clutch smoothness and most times it stalled coming out of a dead stop.
    YOU dont mention anything about white smoke coming out from underneath the hood, though. That's when I had it in first gear so I would imagine that gear is fried.
    Also, the shifter linkage is loose-seems to have too much play. But the clutch pedal still has pressure-springs back when depressed to the floorboard.
    I haven't had a chance to test whether the clutch will engage 2nd gear; I know 1st gear is dead, though. AND there is no way to get the shifter to engage the reverse gear. This is probably serious stuff I am faced with.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,324
    Well if a clutch slips in FIRST gear, it is really fried. You'd need no further proof.

    Well maybe you DO need some good instruction in shifting. Sounds like you're not exactly a ballet dancer on those pedals ;)

    Good luck with repairs and see if you can get someone with good experience to check you out on the controls---to make sure you're doing things right.

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  • punkeyepunkeye Posts: 30
    'Alright', I'll admit I am pretty shiftless when it comes to the gearshift. But luckily I had opportunity to initiate a discussion with my INDY-MENTOR. He said he had the exact same problem awhile back and remedied the condition by tearing out the factory installed self-adjusting clutch cable and replacing it with a manually adjusted one. Seems that the self-adjusting model isn't worth two dead fleas as it has the reputation of causing a high failure rate of the clutch operation. He advised me to try that route first before I throw the panic switch about frying transmission gears. Remember, that all the service department did was to install a new clutch and replenish the fluid reservoir. It was still the original cable. I will try upgrading the cable and hope it solves the problem. It's a one hour job and I don't have to pull off the tranny. Plus it is inexpensive. HOT DAMN! Nice to have people around like that when you need them.
  • punkeyepunkeye Posts: 30
    Ok, Mr. SR, you will get your wish. My indy mechanic has taken some pics of the pressure plate and friction disk. He said it was an extreme case of damage to both parts-that something was definitely wrong somewhere. Not your normal clutch wear. He's having the flywheel resurfaced today. I will send the pics when convenient. Maybe you will have some idea of what was the culprit.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,324
    Sure be glad to take a look.

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  • punkeyepunkeye Posts: 30
    You can view the pics of the pressure plate and friction disc at this web address: http://new.photos.yahoo.com/gambolio/albums
    As you can see the friction disc has exploded and the pressure plate is beat up pretty badly. This clutch had less than 800 miles on it before this happened. I am hoping you can provide some sort of insightful commentary about the likely cause. If not, well ok then. Nothing lost.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    Can't get to your photos.....
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,324
    Really all I can see is a badly burned up clutch disk, as one might find on a race car. That sort of damage could be either from a defective part (separation of the fiber material from the disk) or from abuse. No way to tell.

    I am curious, though, why it got this bad. The car must have been slipping, burning, etc. for a while? Or was this one catastrophic moment in time?

    I was hoping to see the pressure plate in pieces. That would indicate defective part, since the driver really couldn't do that.

    But the driver could destroy a clutch disk, as shown in your photos--but he'd have to be kind of crazy. Are you crazy? :P

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  • punkeyepunkeye Posts: 30
    Well, I did buy a Saab that was an insurance writeoff. Case closed.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,324
    I've owned Saabs as well...I'm just as nuts as you are.

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