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VW Jetta TDI

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  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,700
    Not an issue, then use 33/34 mpg. It is STILL 42% better !!!! ???

    I get an average of 42/43 (79%) and I am NO hyper miler. Indeed the thing will not be broken in for @ least another 3,000 miles, with 10,000 to 60,000 miles "full" break in. So there is an expectation the mpg will go up from there.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,700
    You may want to re-think break in to a MINIMUM of 10,000 miles. Full break in more like 10,000 to 60,000 miles.

    Break-In Period
  • ndmike88ndmike88 Posts: 155
    Anyone use it? Does it really help with the TDI performance? I know it boosts the cetane in the diesel fuel but does it really work? Is it VW approved?
  • cosmocosmo Posts: 203
    ruking1's link is right on. A no-brainer method is to drive in sport mode for the first 5K. Do not go on any long freeway cruises and do not concern yourself with fuel mileage during the first 5K.
  • jogousajogousa Posts: 402
    anyone use what Mike?
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,700
    Yes. It is supposed to help with TDI performance. After 125,000 miles, I can tell no difference.
    I do use it primarily for:
    1. H20 emulsification
    2. fuel pump lubricity

    These are all chemical reasons I can NOT see.

    3. It does boost the cetane,

    4. boosts power

    5. offers high detergency

    6. better mpg

    7. cleans injectors and combustion system

    but I really have to take their word for it.

    VW's official recommendation: no additves are necessary or required.
  • tdifuntdifun Posts: 10
    I got my Gray DSG TDI jetta from Fitzmall for $20,992. Paided for shipping and was still thousands under what my local dealership could/would do.
  • jim1977jim1977 Posts: 14
    Now you have me worried. I don' want to add a rumor onto a rumor, since we don't really know if they will go the urea system route in 2010, but I also find it hard to believe that it is due to fuel economy. I am wondering if it is due to a maintenance problem with the DPF? I know that they delayed the introduction of the 2009 models (or was it 2008?) for several months until they worked out bugs in meeting the U.S. emission requirements, though nobody ever detailed what those were.

    I was on the verge (or so I thought) of buying a 2009 TDI, but don't want to be orphaned with a long-term maintenance problem. Maybe it is all a bad dream and doesn't really amount to anything.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,700
    On www.tdiclub.com there has literally been ZERO defects on the 09 DPF. There are pretty strong recommendations to use low SAPS motor oil. aka (VW specifications 504/507)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,405
    There will always be people on either side of the bell curve, but I think you are the exception on the positive side, not the rule, from what I'm reading. Still no complaints about EPA stats on the TDI. I feel confident I could also best the EPA scores.

    Personally, aside from the gear heads and aficionados, I don't think more than 10% of Americans would buy a diesel even if they guaranteed you 50 mpg @ $5 a gallon. Why? Because as fuel costs go up, gas engine efficiency, aerodynamic design and weight-saving technology goes up---historically this has always been true at least.

    so I guess I'm saying that diesel tech is not a solution, but rather an alternative out of many alternatives.

    for some however, the perfect solution --people like me, who need some cargo capacity, like in a sportwagon, and who drive 20000 miles a year.

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  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,700
    ..."Personally, aside from the gear heads and aficionados, I don't think more than 10% of Americans would buy a diesel even if they guaranteed you 50 mpg $5 a gallon. Why? Because as fuel costs go up, gas engine efficiency, aerodynamic design and weight-saving technology goes up---historically this has always been true at least.

    so I guess I'm saying that diesel tech is not a solution, but rather an alternative out of many alternatives.

    for some however, the perfect solution --people like me, who need some cargo capacity, like in a sportwagon, and who drive 20000 miles a year. "...

    Then I would think we are saying the same things, to you agree with my past posts or recent past posts. :blush:
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,405
    yes except perhaps you don't think selling diesel cars in America is going to be the marketing challenge that I think it will be?

    also maybe you are more lenient toward VWs reputation than most people, who I think are rather wary of the company's past record in certain areas---specifically, electronic glitches and dealer service.

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  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,700
    On the diesel marketing challenge, a firm NO !!!

    It might be IF,... say the head bureaucrat/legislator, President Obama did a President Kennedy equivalent (to the moon by June). By saying we need 25% diesel passenger vehicle fleet (63.85 M) by a date certain. My swag of the chances of this? Christ's Second Coming will be sooner. Not to reference a long closed SUV thread, but it took SUV's INXS of 30 years to go from 1/2% of the passenger vehicle fleet to 12% of the passenger vehicle fleet !!!! ??? Even at that SNAILS pace MY growth rate of .00333% per year, some folks saw that as the attack of the Hordes and the end of western civilization as we know it.

    These folks can't even pass a constitutionally mandated on time budget, but the CA legislature ran into that (on a minor level) when the overwhelming democratic legislature passed a "MANDATORY 3% of CA MY new car sales" to be plug in electric, (some years back) I have read in passing CA has 24 M registered vehicles so an obvious figure would be eventually 720,000 vehicles.

    This ill conceived effort literally died overnight.

    I actually bought VW's in SPITE of their reputations. I think it is even apparent to them, they need to work to reverse the negative reputation they have worked so hard in polishing !!??

    I think the biggest problem is unseen. It is the pursuit of the (next) the "MAGIC BULLET" assumption. Logic would dictate pursuing that led us into this intellectual problem in the first place.
  • ndmike88ndmike88 Posts: 155
    Diesel power service is an additive you add to the diesel fuel. I have heard nothing but good things about it. Raises the cetane number, improves performance, better MPG. It's found at Wally World, AutoZone, Advance, Tractor Supply.
    Goggle it and see what you think.
  • jogousajogousa Posts: 402
    Thanks ... never heard before... I have been using RedLine many years ago, when diesel still had high sulphur in my 240D....

    85 Plus (RedLine)
    Designed for use in all diesel engines. Contains extremely powerful lubricants, detergents, seal conditioners, fuel stabilizers and rust preventatives, but without smoke suppressant
    Red Line 85 Plus contains additional cetane improvers which boost the fuel 5-9 cetane numbers and additional lubricants which reduce wear in low sulfur fuel by 75%.

    This improvement in lubricity and cetane will reduce detonation, assist starting, help reduce smoking, help prevent fuel system wear and leakage and can provide 5% additional power and efficiency.

    This diesel fuel additive complies with the federal low sulfur content requirements for use in diesel motor vehicles and nonroad engines.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,405
    Nothing in a can can do that I'm afraid. Such claims are spurious IMO.

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  • ndmike88ndmike88 Posts: 155
    RedLine is good stuff also. Several guys at work have diesels and they swear by diesel power service. I bought a jug of it today and I am going to try it. Can't hurt.
  • bradnjessbradnjess Posts: 3
    Kris,

    I just purchased a 2009 Jetta TDI DSG and did opt for the dealer offered 84 mo / 75k mi warranty for about $1250 with $0/$100 deductible. I checked online prior to making this deal and could not beat it online... I know that you can get 84 mo / 100k mi as well for very little more... Good luck and post your deal when you buy!

    Brad
  • bradnjessbradnjess Posts: 3
    Hey,

    Let us know what you think of Diesel Power Service. Is it worth the price / trouble?
  • jogousajogousa Posts: 402
    In my opinion, extra warranty is an overkill. Generally speaking it is just plain additional profit at F&I at any dealership. I would never recommend to anyone to opt for that coverage no matter how good it may sound!
    More at this link:
    http://www.consumerautomotiveresearch.com/index.htm
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