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VW Jetta TDI



  • cosmocosmo Posts: 203
    I concur with bpeebles' response. However, I buy Stanadyne at a local diesel service center to avoid the culture shock inflicted whenever entering a Walmart. I add 3 ounces to each full fill-up primarily for the enhanced lubrication and cleaning of the fuel system. Both of my TDI's are PD's, and considering the quality of American diesel fuel, I figure the cost of 3 ounces of insurance a month per vehicle is worth it.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,699
    LOL. For certain there can be an over load of TMI.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,699
    edited January 2011
    Trust me, before you want to believe that I am making this up.

    VW504 (gasser standards)/507 (D2 standards) have actually been OUT for a long time, ( since 2004) if Total's literature is to be belived. So far more time and mileage and a myraid of scenarios are literally "water under the European bridge". VW is really ubiquitious on European markets. It is not like in the US where they hold what, 2.5% of the markets share?

    Both Total and Fuchs list their VW specification oils as meeting the standards up to 50,000 kms (converts to 31,069 mles). - - 20SAE%205W-30%20(VW%20504.00%20&%20507.00;%20ACEA%20A3;B4;C3)%20-%2031Mar08.pdf

    What might be noteworthy about the two is both go back and forth being the oem factory fill. In addition both are excellent high quality oils. They are as most can imagine not well known in the US market, say like Mobil One.
  • redvwredvw Posts: 40
    I Have a 2009 TDI with 26,000 miles. The rear brake pads are down to 3 mm, and
    the front are at 4 mm. I am looking to replace them with Hawk HPS, or possibly
    Hawk Performance Ceramic. I am also considering Centric Premium rotors. Any
    suggestions in the replacement of these parts would be appreciated. I am not
    considering the OEM pad because they seem to wear very quickly. I am not
    interested in better performance then stock pads, but longer life and at least
    equal performance as the OEM pads provided.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,699
    edited January 2011
    It is pretty apparent you and the conditions driven are hard on the brake pads and rotors. The numbers (on front and rear pads) indicate that braking is done "correctly", albeit aggressively in that you brake in such a way as to put the majority of the weight and braking action to the fronts. The fronts (rotors and pads) as you know are bigger and what you might doubt is designed to handle most of the braking and weight transfer. You are probably also aware that the VW's have had rear bias (certainly on the 09) and for many MY's before that.

    So the interesting news is that the oem brakes and rotors are actually designed for longer life. You will/ would of course point back to me and probably reemphasize; did you NOT hear 26,000 miles????

    So here is the logic. First off, Hawk pads are excellent products in the areas for which they compete. They are however very aggressive. Part of the reason for the ceramic offering is to give a so called lower dust offering. So if you brake in the style and the ways that you have with the oem pads and rotors(with no adjustments) my swag is you will get even FASTER wear. ( the minor caveat here is you start off with the same measure of pad material)This will be to the pads AND the rotors (inferior, as VW uses pretty high quality oem rotors, and pads for that matter. OEM, ATE or TRW would be better rotor choices) The ceramic would probably yield slightly longer wear as it is indeed HARDER (than the HPS for example)
  • colin_lcolin_l Posts: 591
    I've used Hawk HPS pads on my current and previous vehicle and have been very pleased with the relatively low dust, no noise and great cold braking strength and my very infrequent fast-road usage also is great.

    I agree with ruking that 26,000 miles to wear out the stock pads is pretty, um, aggressive. I typically get at least 50,000 miles out of a set of pads. :shades:
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,699
    edited January 2011
    To add 2 anecdotal scenarios. 03 TDI/09 TDI oem rotors and pads. In addition to like new condition @ the courtesy inspection combined with the 10,000 miles interval done @ ...12,300 miles on the 09 TDI, the technician literally had no measurement difference from "so called new" on either the rotors nor the pads. Counter intuitively, I still run the engine "spiritedly" and will till 30-60k miles where I anticipate both max compression and for the mpg to improve. I did however bed in the brake pads and rotors from 08 miles (new). @ 20,000 miles, I do not have enough data to even swag how long the oem pads and rotors should last. However on an 03 TDI @ 153,000 miles, it is less than half the wear. So a good swag would be 280,000 miles on the oem rotors and pads.
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Posts: 4,085
    edited January 2011
    German-steel, Zimmerman rotors are very good. Akebono pads are also advisable.

    I highly recommend you consider IDParts. They carry brake "kits" which are reasonably priced and you can customize the components as you desire. I have been ordering oil, brakes, glowplugs and virtually all other parts for VWs from IDParts for years.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,699
    edited January 2011
    Absolutely no argument there. Another is Bora Parts

    The individual choices and combinations are almost short of TMI !
  • jimlockeyjimlockey Posts: 265
    I have a jetta Sportwagon TDI with 30,000 miles and have 85 percent of my brakes remaining. I had a 05 Passat TDI with 85,000 that I traded in on my Jetta that still had the original brakes.
  • eliaselias Posts: 1,898
    edited January 2011
    My 06 jetta TDI has 115K, brakes are 100% factory, never required any service/parts.
    At each recent service I ask the dealer and they say the pads are not worn out yet. But close!

    Ceramic brakes bring a whole set of tradeoffs which I understand are inappropriate for a street car. I advise against them even when they are an $10000 option from the factory.
  • My 2006 (purchased new in July of '07) has 159,000 mi on it and I'm still on the original brakes. It's a manual trans and I do mostly highway driving but it seems unusual to only get 26,000 miles on yours.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,847
    I think there was someone driving that car that rides the brakes. I don't know of any modern car that you need to replace brake pads at 26k miles. Or he could be dealing with a crooked dealer.
  • Just past 32k miles breaks are at 50% with NYC driving
  • redvwredvw Posts: 40
    How do the HPS pads compare with factory pads in regards to the life of the pad, stopping power, and the feel of the brakes?
  • redvwredvw Posts: 40
    I looked at They sell an A5 Front brake kit with Hudson rotors and low-dust ceramic pads by Hudson. One can upgrade the rotors to Zimmerman, and the pads with TRW. The rear kit also has Hudson rotors with Mintex red box pads. The upgrade for this kit is Zimmerman rotors and low-dust ceramic pads by Hudson.

    Do you have any thoughts on which combination would be best? Are these part better suited for a TDI then Hawk brake pads with Centirc Rotors?
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,699
    Yes. You might wish to either leave a msg or ask to speak with Peter. He can give you a run down of the (his) product line. Be sure to mention the oem pads lasting app 26,000 miles.

    Let us know what you finally decide or your top 5 picks each in rotors and brake pads.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,404
    I was helping some friends shop for a Jetta TDI wagon---we got a 2011 for $27000 out the door (all taxes, license, etc). I thought this was a pretty good deal, especially since they're paying 9.25% sales tax where I live.


  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,699
    edited January 2011
    I have read in passing that of the 2010 JSW sold, most were TDI's (more than 75% of the JSW inventory). I am guessing of those 75% were DSG's (aka 6 speed "automatics") aka dual clutch pack shifted drive by wire by computer.

    I do not believe the 2010 total VW sales figures are out yet.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,404
    They're getting a standard shift. It's what they are used to, and all things considered, probably better for them, since they tend to keep cars a long time. I don't think there's really enough data out yet on long term durability of the DSGs. As we know, there have been recalls and extended warranties on older ones.


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