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VW Jetta TDI

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  • longo2longo2 Posts: 347
    Best to Google 2010 VW Jetta TDI problems and see what comes up...I just found this interesting recall that still puzzles me..

    Recall Date:
    OCT 03, 2011
    Model Affected:
    2010 Volkswagen Jetta
    Summary:
    VOLKSWAGEN IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL 2009-2012 JETTA AND JETTA SPORTWAGEN VEHICLES, MANUFACTURED FROM MAY 2008 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 2011, MODEL YEAR 2010-2012 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF VEHICLES, MANUFACTURED FROM MAY 2009 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 2011, AND MODEL YEAR 2010-2012 AUDI A3 VEHICLES, MANUFACTURED FROM SEPTEMBER 2009 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 2011, THAT ARE EQUIPPED WITH A 2.0L TDI COMMON RAIL DIESEL ENGINE/CLEAN DIESEL ENGINE. THE FUEL INJECTION PULSES COULD COINCIDE WITH THE NATURAL FREQUENCY OF THE INJECTOR LINE #2, IN SPECIFIC LOAD AND RPM CONDITIONS. THIS RESONANCE CREATES ADDITIONAL STRESS IN THE FUEL LINE.
    Consequences:
    DUE TO THE RESONANCE CONDITION, INJECTOR LINE NUMBER 2 COULD DEVELOP SMALL CRACKS WHICH COULD LEAD TO FUEL LEAKAGE. LEAKING FUEL IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IGNITION SOURCE, MAY LEAD TO A FIRE.

    Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2010/volkswagen/jetta/recalls/#ixzz2adkZj8Ro

    What ever happened to fuel lines that lasted until the wheels fell off?
  • mamx4mamx4 Posts: 10
    I am really curious what is supposed to fail at 40,000 miles! I am 167,000 (plus as of today) and have had to have an airbag light reset 1 time and have had to replace a few lamps. Other than normal maintenance the only other thing I have done is replace the CV axles at 135,000 because the driver's side was worn out (and I did it myself, really easy). That is from living out in the country on several miles of gravel road. I have had no "big hits" at all, and at 42 mpg, the little thing just keeps right on going.
  • ttzttz Posts: 1
    Does anyone know who the camshaft manufacturer was for the 2006 Jetta TDI made in Puebla, Mexico plant?
  • I will look for a manufacturers stamp on the 80,000 mile worn out cam (narrow version) and lifters with holes in the tops that I still have saved in my garage. Saved them next to a quart of the expensive synthetic oil that the dealer used on the scheduled oil changes.
  • longo2longo2 Posts: 347
    edited August 2013
    Our VW 06' Jetta BRM Engines were all built in Poland, and the other bits put together in Mexico, what could go wrong with that!~
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    When I was comparing a Prius to a Jetta TDI, maintenance and repairs was the main reason I stayed clear of the Jetta. I bought a used '06 Prius a few years ago with 40K miles and now I'm at 100K miles with zero problems to date, and based on the reliability of the Prius I don't forsee any issues for many more years.
  • mamx4mamx4 Posts: 10
    What problems with the TDI? Just went to 168,000 this AM. Live on a gravel road, 10 miles of gravel and dirt daily. Only thing I have done to this vehicle over 168,000 miles is replace the CV axles on the front at 135,000. My son and I did that easily, but had to have it aligned after we got done. I change the oil myself with Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 every 5000 miles since it was brand new. Have buried it to the frame twice in the winter when snow and rain created deep enough mud that had to go get the John Deere to get it out. I would leave tomorrow in it to go to California if I had to, this is the absolutely most reliable car I have had in the last 30 years. If you think your Prius is reliable, I have a neighbor that you need to talk to--sold his at 95,000 because they got tired of replacing plastic that came off on our gravel roads. Guess what he drives now........yep, a 2009 Jetta TDI. He is at 62,000 and absolutely no problems either. Diesel, yep you can't ignore routine maintenance, but otherwise stay out of the way and I will sail by at 42 mpg at 80 mph.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,678
    What problems with the TDI?

    Very good post.
    You point out several weaknesses in the Prius. Snow and ice practically leave them stranded. Unless they have added a switch to disable the electronic traction control I am sure it is still an issue. The Touareg has a switch to give you better control in snow and off road conditions.

    I am still waiting for someone in a Prius to beat the records held by VW on 48 state trips. Our own Wayne Gerdes set the latest record. And he was a hard core Hybrid fan.

    Volkswagen set a new Guinness World Record last week for lowest fuel consumption during an 8,122-mile tour of the lower 48 states in a Volkswagen Passat TDI Clean Diesel, achieving 77.99 mpg during the trip. This new record bested the previous one by about 10 mpg. During this record-setting trip the Passat TDI Clean Diesel also beat the hybrid record by more than 13 miles per gallon.

    The 48-state trip took 14 days, with drivers Wayne Gerdes and Bob Winger purchasing only 104.94 gallons of Shell's ultra-low-sulfur diesel fuel for the duration of the trip. Gerdes is the founder of cleanmpg.com and is quite skilled in hypermiling techniques, which the driving team utilized throughout the trip.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    Outside of TDI forums, most reviews are far more negative with respect to maintenance and reliability towards VW than Toyota. And the Prius is one of the most reliable vehicles around. Plus I'm not sure why a hybrid has any effect on driving in snow??

    And if you go to fueleconomy.gov and compare a prius to a vw tdi you'll see that the prius on average beats the VW tdi in the real world driving and not some hypermiling test.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,678
    And the Prius is one of the most reliable vehicles around.

    So is my refrigerator. Does not make it all that enjoyable to be around. Yes the Prius is a decent appliance vehicle. Have I enjoyed the times I have ridden in them? NO, they are noisy rough riding little cars. Not in any way a pleasure to ride in or drive. Hey, but that is the beauty of America, so far. We can each drive what we like. I just got rid of a gas hog Toyota. So I am not in any way looking for another. At least it was a pleasure to get in and drive after running around town in my buddies Prius. The Prius I suggested he check out and he bought. He likes it fine. And he gets good mileage.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    My comment wasn't to the couple of TDI lovers that troll Edmunds forums, but to the folks commenting on TDI reliability issues. Many folks really do just look at their cars as a means of getting from point A to B with the least amount of fuss as possible. Reliability and low operating costs are much more important than the "sporty feeling" they get when merging on highway entrance ramp.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,678
    The question I would have for you. What kind of problems have you had with a VW Jetta TDI that you have owned? A troll is someone that hangs out on a thread for a vehicle they don't like. I have no problem debating the hybrid vs diesel questions. You came to a specific vehicle thread to try and make it look bad compared to another vehicle. If you have had personal problems with a Jetta TDI, it is legitimate. If you are just repeating something you read, you should expect those that have had good luck with their VW TDI to respond. I have owned VW TDIs, I am on my second one and happy with both. I have also owned a hybrid and hated it. All well documented in the appropriate threads.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    I was responding to others in this forum making comments on problems they've had with VW TDIs, which was simply that those types of issues were one of the reason I didn't purchase a VW TDI. There may be some folks reading this forum thinking about buying a VW TDI like I was and it's good to have facts posted. If you can find some facts indicating that VW producing more reliably cars than Toyoto, or more specfically, that a Jetta TDI is more reliable and will have less ownership costs than a Prius we'd like to see them. From what I've read, the Prius has the Jetta TDI beat in this area, but please post contrary facts.
  • jwohjwoh Posts: 1
    FYI, I have 2010 Jetta TDI w/ 110K miles. Engine light came on and was coding particulate filter. Dealer said would cost $4800. Took it to an independent, confirmed the code for particulate filter but volume of exhaust was still strong. Investigated further and replaced exhaust filter behind DPF. Fixed. $380 vs $4800
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,678
    Good for you, it pays to find a good Indy shop. We got the same over priced run around with the Lexus. I think dealers are looking for the sucker to bite on their set prices. They would shotgun the whole system to cover their behinds.
  • I have a 2011 VW Jetta TDI wagon with 23,000 miles and I've been raving about the car until this week. I like the 38-43 mpg and the handling is almost as good as my 2001 Passat.

    Unfortunately, the Passat has been given to a son and now has 150,000 miles and the Jetta last week had the entire fuel system destroyed. The car suddenly lost power as I was driving. I was told by VW dealer who did the repair, that the high pressure fuel pump was the cause of the failure and because diesel fuel lubricates the pump, most likely I had dirty or contaminated fuel. But they did not verify that the tank had been contaminated. I buy diesel at one location 95% of the time, and that location is noted on the VW website as a place to purchase fuel. So I have no answer to the question I asked the technician: How do I prevent this from happening again? I honestly don't know if I got a truthful story from them.

    I'm interested in finding out if this has happened to other diesel car owners. I've lost my confidence in VW after owning VW's for 15 years.
  • I just got my 2011 Jetta TDI wagon back after a complete destruction of the fuel system supposedly due to dirty fuel, but not verified. It was under warranty, but I must say I've lost my confidence in the car. Suddenly losing power on the road is scary. I got no real answer from the dealer. I buy diesel from a station listed on the VW website.

    The day before this happened I would have given the car an A+ for everything especially the 38-43 mpg I get.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,678
    edited September 2013
    Thank goodness it was still under warranty. I no longer trust any manufacturer. I buy the extended warranty to cover how long I plan to have the vehicle. With a bit extra when I go to sell it. I don't think ULSD is as good at lubricating as the old high sulfur fuel. But the old stuff will also mess up the fuel system.

    What brand of diesel do you use 95% of the time. I have only used Chevron and Shell so far and get equal mileage from both.
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Posts: 4,080
    edited September 2013
    The HPFP (High Pressure Fuel Pump) is AFTER the fuel-filter so it should NEVER EVER get contaminated unless the filter is not installed properly. (dirty fuel getting past it)

    It has been said many times before... always Always ALWAYS add your favorite diesel-fuel-conditioner when filling up.

    Unlike additives for gasoline engines, a Diesel-fuel conditioner actually has measureable benefits:
    *)LUBRICATION of the fuel-system
    *) Increase Cetane of fuel (measurably increased MPG and quieter running engine)
    *) in winter - eliminate gelling

    Personally, I have always used DIESEL KLEEN® which is available at Walmart. (Grey bottle in summer and white bottle in winter)

    At the risk of repeating common-knowledge... keep the bottle of additive in the trunk along with a supply of 8oz paper-cups. Just before filling up, grab a paper-cup and form a 'spout' on it. Pour approximately 6oz into paper cup and dump into fuel-filler before turning on the pump.

    In this way, you can toss the used paper-cup in nearest trashcan and keep any odors out of your trunk.
  • I have a 2012 VW Jetta the cheapest car I have owned and I,m 65 and my parents drove VW.I am very mechanical as I have a construction company and have rebuilt VW diesels before.My 2006 twin cam 1.9 was a wonderful car after the defective roll over valve was replaced.(It was the cause of a tdi new shutting down in sub zero at night and freezing to death two young grand children!!) My 2012 has the best of care and drove 70 miles to Port Huron and fueled the car at Murphys fuel at Walmart before returning.I was lucky to get back as I had some contaminated fuel (some water and sludge) I had to take car into VW for six days and discovered the rear electric fuel pump has no sock but sucks thru a small filter screen over the 3/4" hole which got debri and did not send enough fuel to the last high presure mechanical pump which failed and sent metal debri thru injectors and lines. This pump has NO FILTER and fails often! Note no metal was found but car just lost power and I was charged $10000.00 I have only 20000 miles and still in warranty but they don,t cover this DEFECTIVE HIGH PRESSURE ALUMINUM PUMP which fails continually.I have 3 thoughts.A Why is there not a RECALL B Why would the VW garage charge this much when a new engine could have been put in cheaper! C How do they charge this much for a pump 4 lines and 4 injectors. Our car has been fixed and I am afraid to drive it!!! I have always been a VW buyer but I would not recommend this TDI DEFECTIVE FUEL PROBLEM Ken Hughes Ontario Canada
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