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Mercedes-Benz E-Class Diesels

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  • andmoonandmoon Posts: 320
    You can buy a diesel in ca if the car has 7500 miles on it. Some vw (MB too?) dealers specialize in bringing in just over 7.5K cars.
    If you are a non ca resident and move to ca. you can bring in any diesel.
  • blissfulblissful Posts: 79
    Just curious: how much did you pay? Sounds like you have nearly every option! Good for you! :shades:
  • rubyred2rubyred2 Posts: 1
    Im considering a 320 cdi and was worried about winter driving (starting-etc) Wondering about the parrifin problem with waxing up.
    Anyone have experience with winter driving with this car? Thanks
  • rbarkleyrbarkley Posts: 14
    I've had a e320 for 10 months now and live in Minnesota. I travel MN,IA, WI and have no problems starting or snow conditions. I put on winter tires and it goes thru almost anything.
  • cctdicctdi Posts: 82
    I am just curious and glad to learn your E320 driving experience in the winter time. In this past winter I didn’t see too much snow here in Jersey; for a couple of the snowy days, I switched to the Hybrid Highlander. I would like to know if you just put on the snow tires on the rear wheels or four wheels. Oh, the CDI has much more torque and this might have some impact on the icy road.
  • johndix60johndix60 Posts: 21
    I am considering the purchase of a 2006 CDI with Premium Pk. Any current information available on South Florida pricing?

    Thanks/johndix
  • greasykid1greasykid1 Posts: 336
    Bought it for $48,000. Also has full leather pkg. Have new car sticker...a little over $64,000. Don't buy new cars anymore. Found last 2 MB's on the internet.

    Last year found a 2005 350SLK for my wife with only 1,800 mi. on it.Paid about $9,000 under sticker. Car was only 90 days old.

    Takes a while and you have to look at a lot of sites. Between the 2 cars saved $25,000 off MSRP.
  • nealsneals Posts: 1
    My 2005 E320 CDI has developed a transmission problem and I am curious as to whether others have had similar issues. Basically the transmission doesn't down shift properly after having been driven at highway speeds for an extended period of time. If the vehicle slows down the car can not accelerate properly but instead builds up speed gradually. The situation does not occur every time but it seems to becoming more frequent. Normal shifting is not an issue during most driving conditions and corrects itself once the car is parked and then restarted. The Dealer indicates he has not seen similar problems but continues to look for a cause.
  • tomotomotomotomo Posts: 57
    I have a 2005 E320 CDI and also have had some transmission problems. Several months ago I had a leak that was apparently due to a defective electrical device (my wife's '02 C320 had the same leak). I also had a diesel fuel leak that required the replacement of the fuel line. Since the above leaks were corrected, when the car is cold the first few shifts upon starting off is rather harsh. The car has been in the shop to correct the shifting but is still harsh. I am waiting until winter when the shifting is more severe to take it back for them to tackle the problem. Good luck on your problem.
  • cctdicctdi Posts: 82
    A couple of months ago, I voiced my transmission leak problem in this forum; with 9k in the odometer, the only problem I got now and then is the shift down to first gear too soon in low speed when my feet is off the gas pedal by using the S mole.
  • rbarkleyrbarkley Posts: 14
    I've been out of town and couldn't get back in touch with you. To answer your question you need snow tires on all 4 wheels.
  • bduserbduser Posts: 4
    I recently had the same problem with my 2005 CDI. It lost power when accelerating and wouldoften stall. I brought it in to the local MB dealer, and they didn't know what was wrong, so they called MB. MB asked if I was using biodiesel, and when they found out I was, they said the warranty was voided for the fuel system, and replaced the fuel system. I am trying to get them to refund the cost of the repairs, as the never said biodiesel was not allowed when I purchased the car.

    However, while researching my problem, I came across your post. You seem to have experienced the same problem, as did several other people, and MB never blamed the fuel. In fact, it sounds like they have no idea what causes the problem, but they got $2600 from me for replacing the fuel system, and it may have had nothing to do with the problem.

    Have you, or anyone else had this problem since? What was the diagnosis?
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,967
    I think it may be the use of biodiesel after you have used very dirty diesel. Biodiesel is a very strong solvent. It can clean out built up stuff that will plug injectors etc. That is pretty shaky on a new car. It would make me very unhappy with Mercedes.
  • bduserbduser Posts: 4
    The only diesel I ever used in the car was the first tankful provided by the dealer. Since then, I had run over 15,000 miles on B100.

    I have read other posts from CDI owners with similar problems, where it ended up being in the emissions system. I don't believe MB knows exactly what the problem is, but they seemed eager to blame it on BD.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,967
    You might want to contact Pacific Biodiesel. They have had a couple run ins with MB over B100 in the E320 CDI. I know Willie Nelson uses B100 exclusively in his E320 CDI. If you have run it for that many miles it would be interesting to find out where they are coming from. As long as your source is up to ASTM D 6751, I think they are out of line not repairing your car.

    http://www.biodiesel.com/
  • bduserbduser Posts: 4
    It's tough getting anywhere with MB, because they refuse to discuss the issue with me. Their toll-free customer "support" employees will not let me speak with anyone else, and all they will say is that the warranty is not valid. I've never bought anything from a sleazier, more unfriendly company. It doesn't matter what the BD supplier (or anyone else, for that matter) says, because MB refuses to listen. Obviously, I will never buy another car from them, but they don't care about that. Their arrogance is amazing.
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,012
    A large local newspaper is looking to interview consumers who recently purchased a diesel vehicle and would like to talk about their car. Please send an e-mail to ctalati@edmunds.com no later than Thursday June 22, 2006 by 2:00 PM PST/5:00 EST containing your daytime contact information and the make and model of your car.

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  • eliaselias Posts: 1,911
    why complain about voiding your warranty if you knowingly voided it by running B100? did you RTFM before driving the car or did you discover B100 was prohibited after cluelessly using it. either way it seems valid that the warranty was voided - at least on the engine. tough love!
    but i hope MB would honor the warranty on your window-motors for example!
    also please enjoy this parting bumper-sticker idea:
    drink locally, attack globally.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,967
    I have to agree. As much as I am an advocate of biodiesel, I don't think I would risk voiding the warranty on a $60k car. I am very curious if the biodiesel is the culprit and where the fuel came from. If it was made in some garage from old cooking oil, well that is risky. I don't know of anyplace here in San Diego that sells B100. B20 would have been a better start. MB has no problem with B5. I do think that MB would have to prove that the Biodiesel caused the failure.
  • blissfulblissful Posts: 79
    I don't think MB would have to PROVE that Biodiesel caused the failure. However, if you kept the parts they replaced, perhaps you could prove that it did not. Regardless, the question that is really telling is: Did the car no longer exhibit the symptoms with the newly replaced fuel system? If the symptoms persist, or recur, despite using non Biodiesel, then you have a case worth pursuing. :shades:
  • bduserbduser Posts: 4
    MB NEVER told me I couldn't use BD. When I purchased the car, I specifically told the dealer that the only reason I was buying it was so that I could run it on B100. He never said I couldn't, and even nine months later, after I had the problem with MB and spoke with him about it, he still wasn't aware that the CDI shouldn't be operated on BD.

    Read the manual? A few days after I received the car, I noticed that the manual and warranty guide that came with the car were for a 2006 E350, not the 2005 E320 CDI that I purchased. I called the dealer up and asked for the correct manuals. He said they were very similar, not to worry. Well, of course the E350 is a gas-powered car, so it made no reference to the use of BD. When I told the customer support person this he first blamed it on the dealer. The dealer said they just gave the package of manuals that came with the car from MB.

    Nowhere on its website does MB say that the use of BD is prohibited. Nor do they tell their dealers to inform customers that BD will invalidate the warranty. This is willful deception. They believe there is a problem with BD, but won't tell anyone, and won't make the information public.
  • This E-320 cdi is our first diesel. I don't recall detecting hesitation on the test drive. Also, I'm noticing a little shaking when I shut the car off.
    I've had the car less than a week, ordered it new. (It developed these things while on the original tank of fuel). It has less than 250 miles on it. If this is normal for a diesel, I guess i can live with it. It just doesn't seem like it's performing right to me. What do you say? When you accelerate, does it take a second or 2 to respond?
    Thanks, Chere
  • peakoilerpeakoiler Posts: 1
    Congrats on your purchase! I'm sure you will enjoy the car and it's 30+ MPG. The slight shudder when shutting off a diesel is normal. The delay of a second or two that you have when accelerating is probably due to the car's transmission being in "comfort" mode 'C' which has the car accelerating from second gear (hence the hesitation). Try selecting 'S' "sport" mode (which has the car accelerate from first gear) and you will find much less hesitation and in my opinion better performance. The C/S switch is by the transmission shifter.
  • Thanks very much for your response. I do know about Comfort and Sport settings and it's been in Sport from the beginning.
    The hesitation happens starting out in D-1 also, but not every time.
    In researching, I've read a couple of negative things about a left foot braker. My husband (drove the car initially) is a left foot braker and I'm wondering if that messed something up initially with the "computer driver learning" process (if there is such a thing).
    Do you know anything about this left foot braker issue?
    We have an apt. on Monday morning to have it checked out.
    Thanks again for your post.
  • greasykid1greasykid1 Posts: 336
    I have been a left foot breaker for over 40 yrs,but times change.

    With "drive by wire" throttle you MUST release the brake before you attempt to accelerate. The computor thinks that if you are braking why do you want to go. Try it---your start up hesitation will be gone.
  • I am not a left foot braker; it has been I who's been driving the car for the past few days and the hesitation does it when I'm driving as well. Today at a stop light, I literally lurched forward, very embarassing.
  • greasykid1greasykid1 Posts: 336
    Don't have the answer but suspect either a computer or fuel problem. Let us know what your dealer does to solve.
  • Thanks ~ aside from the hesitation issue, I love everything else about the car. Hope it's fixable; it's more annoying than anything.
  • char30char30 Posts: 2
    I am relocating to Riverside, CA and would like to know if there would be a problem servicing a 2006 E320 CDI at local M-B dealerships and as this model is not sold in CA are there places to purchase fuel? What are fuel prices like in CA?

    Thanks for your help. :confuse:
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,967
    There is plenty of diesel. As of 6/1/06 it is supposed to all be ULSD. It should run great on BP/ARCO diesel. I used it in my Passat TDI and it was very good. In San Diego diesel is about equal to regular. Cheaper at some stations.
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