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Mercedes-Benz E-Class Diesels



  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    The first 'offer' they gave us was sticker and a lowball on a trade in. Typical. But we're not afraid to walk from a deal, and they know it. We'll make another offer of X over invoice (once I've done an invoice pricing of the car with the options we want). If they say no, we'll see if they make any counter offer and just walk.

    I've got my list of wants on the car, my wife has her list of wants. For the most part, they match. :) So I have to figure which options we ultimately want (too bad no XM - have it on 2 cars already), figure their invoice value, then decide on a price over invoice we are willing to pay.

    Any info on whether the iPod interface will work like I hope it does or the V vs I6 engine?

  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,850
    The Germans seem to be behind in some features like XM. I know a lot of people ask about iPod. Not sure who offers it. I know a fellow that has a home in TX and here in San Diego. He drives back and forth all the time and gets consistent 37 MPG. I don't think he drives like a granny either. He says it is the best MB he has ever owned.
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    But I wanted to try and keep the same service for all my cars. Oh well. If there is a way to integrate the iPod into the system and control it from the car's controls, I'd be just as happy, as my wife and I both have iPods and that would work as well as satellite radio for me. :)

    Still trying to determine if the V6 or the I6 diesel would be a better way to go...
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    The new V6 is easily the best way to go. Slightly more power and much cleaner, plus its teamed with the new 7-speed tranny. This is a knockout combo in a diesel. Problem is that the new V6 most likely won't show up in any U.S. market Mercedes until the 2007 model year (fall 2006) because the current diesel fuel is too dirty for the advantages of the new V6 to be realized, plus MB wants (and did) test it with the new fuel not the current supply. It would be very costly to certify this new V6 for one model year (2006) and then do it again for another (2007), when the new fuel low-sul diesel is available.

  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Thanks for the input on that. I thought the new V6 was coming in MY 2006. Something to consider there as well. The vehicle I'll be trading in will be a GM vehicle. Their employee purchase program for everybody sent my car's value through the floor even more! :(

  • dindfwdindfw Posts: 1
    Am interested in purchasing a 320 CDI with the current in-line 6. Will there be any issues with this current engine when the new low sulfur fuel is required in late 06? Will any retrofitting be necessary with the engine?
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,850
    It should run great on ULSD. Germany has had ULSD a long time and their engines were designed around that fuel. It runs great in my 2005 Passat TDI. It should keep the engine a lot cleaner running.
  • vl39vl39 Posts: 14
    Just received email from MBUSA stating information on the 2006 CDI will be released in July.
  • rwalker07rwalker07 Posts: 16
    I have a 2005 E 320 CDI. To make a long story short, I decided to trade it in on a Subaru Tibeca because I am relocating and want or need an all wheel drive.

    The Subaru dealer called the Mercedes dealer here in Las Vegas Nevada (the only one) and was offered $33,000 for the car. I knew I was going to take a hit, but over $20,000 for basically a brand new car.

    I don't know if it is just my MB dealer in LV that is a rip off artist, or these things simply have no value. I am really disgusted and can honestly say I will never purchase a MB again after this debacle.

    I should add that my girlfriend was offered $19,000 for her 2002 Saab 9-5 in a trade-in for a Hynduai, so apparently the MB is only worth $14,000 more than a three year saab that was falling apart.

    Good luck to all of you and at least don't buy one here in LV.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,850
    Sell it yourself. They are going to hit you hard on a new car trade-in. If it is low miles and still like new it should bring $45k in a heartbeat. Especially in a town like LV. How are you going to step down to a Subaru after that car? They bring a real premium in CA. You could get more than you paid for it.
  • eliaselias Posts: 1,898
    yeah, selling it to a californian used could be the way to go. maybe you can find a southern cal auto broker such as that one that specializes in volksy TDIs.

    trading it a 2005 benz for a Subaru just for the AWD sounds lame.
    although i did trade an E320 wagon for a jetta TDI wagon after 4 years.

    i bet you probably don't really need AWD! pffft on AWD.
    a set of 4 blizzaks on the CDI will make it great in snow.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,850
    a set of 4 blizzaks on the CDI will make it great in snow.

    With a lot more style, and better mileage than the Subaru. If it does not work out sell it where ever you are moving. Then downgrade to the Subaru. CA is the best bet for top dollar. They are a prized jewel in the LA & Bay area.
  • Please describe the cars color, milage, equipment. I may be interested.
  • rwalker07rwalker07 Posts: 16
    I should add that I really like to the MB CDI

    It is fast, powerful and gets unreal gas mileage. I had some issues with it recently, but after the second visit the service dept. figured out the problem and it should be smooth sailing.

    What bothers me, however, is the way it performed in the rain. I have little confidence in its bad weather performance. But after reading some of the comments, tires are probably the issue.

    Another point is I have had nothing but front wheel drives and I believe that driving in poor weather in a rear wheel drive will just take some getting used to.

    I think I will hold out for the ML diesel when it hits. The gas mileage is really hard to give up.

  • ichenichen Posts: 7
    Can you elaborate a little about the rain/poor weather driving, merc?
  • Wow,

    Dealers always rip you off. Unless there was really something wrong with it, you should have sold it yourself. I would have gladly taken it off your hands for 33k, but if you had advertised it I doubt if I would have been able to do so with all the competition. But with 33k cash you could have negotiated quite a bit on your new car.

    Is it still for sale? Even with the airfare that would be a good deal for somebody.
  • ichenichen Posts: 7
    I will probably take delivery of a new 2005 320 cdi come tuesday.. although, i do read some things about the new year model 2006 coming out soon?

    Any details, differences? things worth waiting instead for, or anything to use as a bargaining chip?

    I would think about waiting another year for the probably ?07 cdi's that will run on the lower sulfur, but don't see the ability to wait the whole year (unless i lease for 1 year instead of buying?) Any thoughts?

  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,850
    The new CDI will be the V6 which just set all those endurance records in Texas. I would think that you could try to squeeze the dealer a bit with that. I think the current CDI is a fine engine. It will run on poor diesel that the new one will not like.
  • ssamahassamaha Posts: 17
    If you accept $33,000 on an '05 CDI, you are a complete fool! Unless your car has over 100,000 miles on it, or major body damage, it's worth at least $45,000 used, and $40,000 trade... I used to sell used cars, and I know the games... this guy is trying to steal the car from you... and he'll turn around and get a $15000 profit on it when he sells it in CA for $50000... Don't be a freaking fool man! The fact that your girl got $19,000 on an '02 Saab should send you a message that you're getting ripped!

    WAKE UP.
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