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Scion tC Problems and Solutions

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  • mark19mark19 Posts: 123
    I tried the RE92's when i got my tC.. and no i didn't care for them. Braking distances were longer, and handling seemed kind of numb to me. I didn't chance driving in the rain as i replaced them with Pirelli Pzero Nero (stock size) as a lot of tC owners have. Much better tire (ride, handling, braking distances shorter) but a lot of us have had balancing trouble with the Pirelli pzero nero... I might not get this one again.. Lots of trouble to balance :cry: The other tire to look at would be Yokohama and Toyo in the stock size of 215/45-17.. Haven't heard of any trouble with balancing and have heard they are good tires too.. Depends on what you want to do, lots of choices out there!
    But a lot better choices than the RE92's.. they were bad when introduced on the 94 Integra and they are still bad today.. in my opinon :shades:
  • Ive read about all of the problems and questions owner and potential owners have posted. Here's my experience after 38000 miles in my 05 tC.

    Tires: Still have original Bridgestone Potenzas-good handling on dry roads, will hydroplane at speeds over 45 mgh in heavy rain. Ride is a little rough on cracked roads, but not jarring. I live in Florida, so no experience with snow, but based on experience with wet roads, would not trust them in the snow. However, treadware has been great. I expect to get 70,000 miles out of these tires.

    Pops, squeaks, rattles: No unusual sounds from moonroof when closed. When open, lots of wind noise, but what do you expect? No sounds from dash, glovebox, under or between seat as some have reported. I turned off the radio to listen for squeaks in the rear, and did hear some little rattle occassionally, but not sure whether that was from some cargo or what, really had to listen hard to hear it. Because it is a hatchback, you are more likely to hear noises in the rear than in a sedan.

    radio cover: Design seems bad, looks cheap, but mine still works fine.

    Moonroof shades: Look cheap, but again both front and rear still work fine.

    Transmission: (automatic): zero problems.

    Engine: zero problems, don't think I have read of any, either.

    Mileage: about what was posted on the sticker, and I drive aggressively. If you want better mileage, buy a corrolla.

    Heat retention: Interior gets very hot when sitting in the sun in Florida. It helps a little to keep the shades closed, but still very hot and the black interior makes the heat retention worse. Wish there was a lighter color interior.

    Reclining rear seats: excellent feature especially if you have small children who you want to fall asleep in comfortable position. Car seats work fine as well. Kids also like having their own drink and toy holders in rear and their own over head moonroof and interior light.

    Exterior: paint scratches easily, so be careful what you lay on this car.

    Upholstery: No unexplainable stains, but seats are really hard to clean up after kids have made messes. If you are anal rententive about clean upholstery, either don't let kids in this car or get something with an easier to clean interior. I've read that some of you had leather interior put in, that would be better, but don't get black leather if you live in hot climate.

    Driving experience: fun, fun, fun! What other car gives you this much fun to drive for the price? And with an engine that you never have to worry about. And you can personalize it a million different ways.
  • JBaumgartJBaumgart Posts: 890
    Nice report - sounds like you are a very happy owner overall. Have you had any maintenance issues, other than the usual recommended oil & filter changes and tire rotations? How are the brakes doing as far as wear is concerned?
  • keke1keke1 Posts: 3
    Thanks mark19 for the helpful tire advice. I love the tC but I know I will hate the RE92's :cry: You think I can get the dealer to put the Yokohama or Pirelli's on as the OE tire? That would save me money and time. Probably wishfull thinking. I know I don't need a Z rated tire; I'm not going to be racing my car. I just don't want to die in my car in one of the many ice/snow storms that KC MO has every winter. Well, I'm not planning to purchase the tC until the Spring so I'll keep checking this site through out the winter to see if any owners have trouble with the RE92's in the snow. :)
  • I've only test-driven the tc once (about a half hour w/o the salesman), but I had trouble engaging the clutch cleanly from a standing stop. I attributed it to a very quiet engine compared to my 2 current sticks ('92 Metro LSI convertible - 1L; '01 F250 7.3L Diesel).

    I have never had any trouble starting from stop with my current vehicles - or with other sticks I've owned / driven. I also have driven many "stick" miles from mid-50's Chevy panel trucks (my dad's) through my / our '63 bug, '69 Renault R16, '73 232 cid Hornet, '78 Datsun F10, '82 6 cyl Citation, '86 Escort. I suspect the tc was the quietest of the bunch - hence I couldn't judge engine rpm w/o actually watching the tach. Per this discussion, once going, I had no trouble with the tc's clutch when shifting up or down.

    I'm looking closely at a tc, and at an Ion quad coupe 3 w the 2.4L engine - both stick. I like the Ion's milage compared to the tc's - but Saturn / Scion has a far better freq of repair reputation. Did anyone here compare the 2 before buying?
  • chacobleuchacobleu Posts: 228
    And you guys thought you had it the best; teflon. Think again. And while you're thinking about that, think about how Toyota (Japanese mfg.s in general - just ask Mitsubishi, Honda, & Isuzu) seriously down plays their recalls. Hey, this recall may be worse than stated. Maybe the roof piece shatters when open and the driver sneezes.

    For the latest and greatest, get your recall info from NHTSA
  • djvicedjvice Posts: 1
    I was wondering if there were any aftermarket fog lamps that could be mounted and fit in the 2 cutouts right below the headlights (where foglamps normally go)...

    me personally, I think the round foglamps going on the grill look a little retarded, and as if it were a last-minute add-on. doesn't really go with the sporty look of the car.

    thanks
  • ginocginoc Posts: 3
    looking to swap out my tires and rims...has anyone done that with sucess?? looking to put 205/60/15, 195/60/15 or 225/55/15 on. Life in the northeast and I need some traction in the winter months.
  • gtwgtw Posts: 46
    look at the www.tirerack.com site for reviews and sizes.
  • ginocginoc Posts: 3
    been there but nothing really gives me the info I'm looking for....any sugestions?
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,667
    Michelin Hydroedge - great wet traction, quiet, 80,000 miles, but $$$.
  • geneegenee Posts: 170
    I started looking at the Hydroedge and found they didn't come in the low profile or speed rating for the tC. Then I read the recent Consumer Reports on tires where the Hydroedge is rated "mediocre" for resistance to hydroplaning. A quick visit to michelinman.com gives the message "Sorry, there are no tires to match your vehicle." :P
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,170
    not that many choices in this size. The Pirelli PZero nero got a lot of good press, but I'm not sure if they are still available.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • Great review for a great car. I've had mine for 1 yr nad 19000 miles and can ditto your experience and observations.

    As for the discussion on tires. I too looked to replace the Bridgestones immediately but the expense lead me to give them a try. While I am not a Bridgestone fan (Duelers wore out at 35k and were worthless in snow on an RX300) I must admit I have been pleasantly surprised with these Potenzas. I would not buy them as replacements, but they have been adequate thru a Michigan winter. Time will tell how they wear. I expected worse.
  • I too am trying to put some snows on my tc found some steel wheels and snow tires called winter force on tire rack.com rims 40 bucks ea and tires are 60 ea , and you can have them studded for 15 ea, tried some gm small bolt pattern fit in the back but wont clear the front caliper the wheels and tires from tire rack are 16" if you dont have a tc the gm small bolt hole might work for you, gary
  • I just had my tC in for the 15000 mile service...does the tC need new spark plugs at 15000 miles? I though that sounded ludicrous. I ended up paying over one hundred dollars for an oil change, tire rotation, "visual inspection" of various items, and an air filter. I don't know, that seems really steep to me.
  • mark19mark19 Posts: 123
    no the tC doesn't need new spark plugs for a long time, they are iridium tipped and they resist wear. it is ludricrous! dealer told me they removed some at 50k miles still looked fine (ones that were iridium tipped)..

    sounds like your dealer is trying to make some $$$ on service for some simple things.. what is the labor rate there? $100? sheesh..
  • Ok, good I'm not crazy. I was tricky with them- I asked a different service guy what the interval for replacing spark plugs on a Camry 4 cylinder was, and he said 120k. Then I asked why I was being told to change them at 15k with my tC. I was told it had different spark plugs, etc etc, and a lot of the other Toyota vehicles had 15k plugs, the Camry being an exception. Now, I wouldn't let them do the plugs, but my bill was still that high.

    By the way this is Peruzzi Toyota in Hatfield, PA. I think if I force them to go buy the Scion service manual, I'll be ok, but I'm going to try to find somewhere else to get it serviced. They are TOO EXPENSIVE. Anybody else had this kind of experience?
  • mark19mark19 Posts: 123
    I have heard of others getting ripped off at Toyota dealers that aren't also Scion dealers.. I applaude you for going somewhere (or looking for another scion dealer) else. you might want to check out scionlife.com in their forums section you can get dealer reviews, at least you can get an idea of what the Scion dealers in your area are like..

    and yes the tC has the same engine as the Camry, good for you to know that! It's only tweaked a little on the intake side..
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