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2005 Lexus ES 330

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  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Um, what?

    ~alpha
  • branminbranmin Posts: 6
    I actually liked the ES330, thought it a great car for the money, but the wife admitted to me that she found the seats uncomfortable and actually fely sick in the car?? Could be with all the varnished wood, but if she don't like, I don't get. Did test the LS430 and boy was that smooth, just thought it a little pricey.
    Totally OT, but personally can't wait to test the new Corvette 2005 out.
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    The 2005 ES 330s are in. I saw two at my dealership this weekend. One feature they added I really like is that when you get the heated seats it now comes with cooled seats as well. The leather is perforated (to allow for the fans blowing air through the leather) and the heated seats button has been replaced with a round dial (heat by turning it one way, cool air by turning it the other).
  • wjlwjl Posts: 11
    The dealership that that I spoke to last week, and thought they would be in (Northern VA) this week, didn't get their shipment : - ( The estimate is within a week or two. Are they showing up anywhere else in the country? Lenscap, how is the pricing? My understanding that the MSRP went up between $200 and $300 dollars.
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    Couple of questions:

    How do you get sick from varnished wood?

    Did you not figure out she didn't like the car before you got prices on the car?

    How can she feel sickey in the ES and not in the Town Car?
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    I didn't look closely at the sticker price, but if I recall the price either didn't go up at all or only went up a few hundred dollars as you said.

    Some notes:

    1. Both cars I saw had the 17" wheels, which have a six-spoke design very similar to both the 17" LS 430 wheel and 17" RX 330 wheel. The 17" option was $80. There was a sticker next to the window sticker indicating the 17" tires will possibly experience a tread life of less than 20,000 miles.

    2. One car was silver, and they have changed the shade. It has less green in it than the current silver. The other car was the new gold, which is more taupe-like than before.

    3. The black plastic on the dashboard (where the radio/climate buttons are) is lighter in color than before...more like a dark gray instead of black.

    4. There are now memory buttons for the passenger seat (on the passenger door).
  • Living in Phoenix, cooled seats are a greeat option. Saw the 2005 ES330 at a local dealership today. So they are definitely in stock.

    Just don't have a handle on the price to pay for a 2005.
  • philly2philly2 Posts: 19
    Has anyone seen a 2005 ES330 show up in a dealership in the Philadelphia area?
  • vanboyvanboy Posts: 6
    If you want to see it online....goto www.lexus.ca They've got the 2005 model that you can now compare to the 2004 model.
  • Has anyone heard of any real improvements to the AT for 2005? (other than their "software reprogramming" that appears to be a poor fix) I have a 98 ES300 whose transmission is fine but I have personally experienced the annoying "lag/hesitation" when I recently drove a 2004 loaner car from Prestige Lexus in Ramsey, NJ. I plan to replace my car soon and unless they fix it for the 2005 model, I am (reluctantly) switching to an Acura TL.
  • wjlwjl Posts: 11
    The Lexus site now has the updated prices on their web page: www.lexus.com Looks like a $250 increase in MSRP. But it also looks like it may have some additional features are included in the price.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    I am a BIG fan of every change thats been made to this model, especially the circular fog lamps and much more attractive taillights.

    A very nicely executed mid cycle refresh,IMO.

    ~alpha
  • Can anyone explain why the 2005ES that comes equipped with 17" wheels would carry a disclaimer that tires could wear out in less than 20,000 miles? What would cause that sort of wear in a 17" tire/wheel as opposed to the 16" tire/wheel combination?
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    make the car look nicer, IMO.
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    The 17" wheel tires will wear out faster than the 16" wheel tires because the 17" are lower profile (meaning less rubber exists between the edge of the rim and the edge of the tire itself). Typically the larger the rim size, the lower profile the tire and the faster they wear out (although this is not always true).

    The overall diameter on both the 16" and 17" wheel/tire combos is the same (done so they can be interchanged without affecting speed and odometer calibrations). It's just the 17" combo tire is 1" "thinner" to keep the overall size the same as the 16".
  • jazzjitjazzjit Posts: 14
    Now that the new 2005 ES 330s are out in the dealerships, when do you guys recommend buying this car as far as getting some type of deal below MSRP?
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    You should be able to get a '05 ES330 under MSRP now. I can't imagine anyone paying MSRP for a ES330.
  • jazzjitjazzjit Posts: 14
    I agree with you on that, but Edmunds has rated the TMV of this car to be the MSRP. So I do not know what to make of this.
  • igibanigiban Posts: 530
    Other than looking more sporty, what's the benefits of a 17" wheel that can justify its shorter life than a 16" one?
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    Typically a larger wheel (up to a point) will look better than a smaller one. Obviously people have differing opinions, but this is generally the case. Also, a larger wheel with a lower profile tire will provide better handling. This is because there is less tire (which moves and flexes in turns) and more wheel (which does not bend).
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    I'm pretty sure you can get a ES330 for a big discount. You might not be able to get it for 90% of MSRP like some people are getting on '04s. But you should get a decent discount.
  • Hey whats going on everyone. My sister who just turned 26 is in the market for buying a new car. To tell you the truth, she is willing to spend up to 50 grand on a brand new car but I feel it is such a waste of money. She feels that she needs to spend this much to get a great car that has all the amenities and luxury and also the type of appeal that make people say wow. Now I have always been a fan of Lexus and think their cars are one of the best as far as luxury and technology. Now since she is a girl, I dont think any other car except for the new ES would fit her well. The GS is gonna be redesigned, the LS is too big, and she does not like SUVs or the IS. Plus, the ES offers all the luxury and technology for under 40 Grand. I guess my question is, do you guys think this is a wise choice and please do not be bias towards the ES since we are in the ES forum. My only concern is the ES does not have that type of wow appeal my sis is looking for. Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
  • Perhaps wait for the GS to come out? I think it looks more "wow" than the ES. It's not too big, not to small, should have the performance, and is modern and contemporary.
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    For under $50K and in sedan form, not much has "wow" factor. Usually young women like BMW's 3-series. You might want to try that before it get's banglized for the '06 model year.

    If she really wants "wow", maybe she should think Porsche Boxster, Chevy Corvette C6. Or could try a Chrysler 300C(a little bit of "wow" for the time being).
  • See the thing is, she does not need a performance car such as the Boxster or Corvette. Her main concern is luxury both inside and out with also safety. I mean performance has to be there but that is not really her concern. The 3-Series does sound like a good alternative and will definately check that out. For some reason I do not like how the new GS is going to look and she needs to buy the car soon. I was actually thinking the ES for her because it is extremely luxurious especially for the price but the only drawback is that it does not draw that much attention. Maybe this is a good thing, so who knows. If I tell her to possibly look at and buy the ES would this be a bad thing?
  • igibanigiban Posts: 530
    26 yeal old for a $50K car and brother choosing it for her? How nice. Don't tell my sis such thing is real.

    Com'on if wow is such a big deal, you got to let her make the call. Bring her to the showroom with a wow meter. After all, wow is a very personal thing.
  • I suggest a Saab 93 or even a 95, they are both extremely safe and can have high performance if you want.
  • From what I am gathering from everyone else, an ES330 would not be a wise choice?
  • I think Jaguar will get the wow u looking for
    X-type is around 30K Of course performance maybe less then other car but the look and name cover that
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