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Hyundai Sonata 2006-2007

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  • mejozamejoza Posts: 17
    So, is everyone under the impression that the '07 Sonata will be "Recommended" by Consumer Reports. I know they wont recommend new models ('06) because reliability is a big factor in the status. Are there any bugs or issues with the Sonata that might get in the way of CR giving the model their thumbs up?

    Also how many of you owners use the the manual shift feature every time you drive your Sonata? I've done two seperate test drives and never even attemped to use it. I guess I was kind of scared of it.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,702
    So, is everyone under the impression that the '07 Sonata will be "Recommended" by Consumer Reports.

    Don't know, don't care, don't trust CR enough to tell me the time of day.

    Also how many of you owners use the the manual shift feature every time you drive your Sonata? I've done two seperate test drives and never even attemped to use it. I guess I was kind of scared of it.

    The first time I test drove a Sonata I couldn't wait to use that feature. It shifted ok, not exactly like a manual but ok. I wouldn't use it on a continual bases anyway.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • targettuningtargettuning Posts: 1,371
    It will be recommended IF there are no overbearing reliability issues. As far as I can tell the issues are as it now stands involve personal comfort...i.e. the drivers seat being unable to fully adjust on the seat cushion bottom (manual seats). Various rear suspension noise complaints...gas sloshing noise on less than a full tank...ride quality on O.E. Michelin tires...fuel economy (never as good as one expects or hopes for)...the hope for various improvements and additions in optional equipment i.e. XM radio,GPS screen, new exterior and interior colors. So,no, there doesn't appear to be much that is basically wrong and the pretty good crash testing score won't hurt because Consumer Report puts much more weight into that type of thing than, say, Car & Driver.
    With regard to Shiftronic, it is my belief that it is somewhat of a gimmic, not useless but not something most will use every time either. The transmission in the automatic mode will downshift on demand and put you in the right gear for the situation anyhow. Shiftronic is pretty much idiot proof ( note: not calling you an idiot)and operates within safe engine/road speed parameters i.e. you cannot shift from 5th to 2nd gear at 75mph.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,686
    It is a certainty that CR will "recommend" the Sonata, and in fact give it its highest recommendation (it has two types of recommendation), if it achieves at least an "average" score in its reliability survey. That's the only bar left to cross as far as CR is concerned. It tested out well in CR's own tests and got at least "Acceptable" scores on all the crash tests.
  • mejozamejoza Posts: 17
    "Don't know, don't care, don't trust CR enough to tell me the time of day. "

    What's your issue with CR? I just assumed they we're looking out for us, the lowly consumer. :surprise: Do you have faith in any automotive media?
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    Have faith in yourself is the best solution. Don't trust others, trust yourself :)
  • mejozamejoza Posts: 17
    That fine and all, but without CR and www.carbuyingtips.com and edmunds.com I would wander onto car lots uninformed and seemingly powerless. CR has invested a lot of time and effort in informing potential buyers as to where their hard-earned money is most safely spent. Now, If I had allowed myself to be blindly guided by CR when buying my new car, it wouldn't have been 06' Sonata because there's too much risk buying the first year of a new or redsigned model.
    I will admit however that CR has kept me well informed over the last 7 years as to what this new car biz is all about. I feel very well informed having read their new car guides. I felt my new Sonata was worth the "risk"
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,702
    What's your issue with CR?

    I don't find them reliable.

    I have seen them rate one thing very highly and another very low with the only difference was the name pasted on the product (in other words they came off the same assembly line from the same manufacturer).

    I have seen them to tests of a particular type of product and giving what everyone else rated as second rate the best and not even having what everyone else considered the best in on the testing.

    More often than I care to remember I have gotten things they gave high marks to only to find that they were pieces of junk.

    I just assumed they we're looking out for us, the lowly consumer.

    They are looking out for CR.

    Do you have faith in any automotive media?

    Nope, some I have more trust in than others. But when it comes to things of this nature CR rates between Mad Magazine and street sign.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • targettuningtargettuning Posts: 1,371
    Why don't you trust CR? It is the ONLY publication that may give perspective buyers a glimmer of how any specific brand/make/model vehicle may hold up over the long run. Almost all the reliability issue information is provided by current owners via survey forms (I got one for my 06 Civic). If those owners provide honest information (and I believe abnormalities or obvious bitchers are weeded out or maybe factored in) then a series of trends start to form..it is either reliable or not and if not what fails on a majority of cars. Pure automobile magazines, are good for first impressions, performance numbers, and a collection of drivers impressions but do nothing for information on how their favorite hotrod of the day may hold up in the long run.
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    His opinion, so no point in arguing.

    To me, CR is a compliment to my own decisions. By the end of the day, I am netural as to my position in CR, or any other automotive publications, for that matter. I praise CR what what they do but by no means I have to agree with everything they say - the checkbook is still in my pocket :)
  • w9cww9cw Posts: 888
    CR is only part of my research base. I actually find Consumer Guide to be more objectively informative. Plus, Edmunds.com and all of these forums are an asset.
  • pocono35pocono35 Posts: 89
    Pics and word of mouth out of Korea indicate the new Elantra will be much roomier (BTW the current Elantra already has more hip room in rear than Sonata....it's true!) but there will a very upscale contenting in this vehicle....see pic here of exterior (small Azera)

    http://thehollywoodextra.blogspot.com/2006/03/2007-hyundai-elantra_21.html#comme-

    and interior

    http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/f1guy68/07HD.jpg

    What do you think? I like it, personally. Not revolutionary, but evolutionary, handsome and tasteful.
  • joeg1joeg1 Posts: 17
    Excerpted from Automotive News article of March 27.

    "Hyundai also is restructuring its pricing and options packaging by pulling forward its 2007 model year release. The 2007 model, which will arrive in May or June, will give the four-cylinder model more standard features and a realigned pricing structure."

    Search on Sonata at http://www.autonews.com for the full text.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,702
    I find these forums to be one of the best in getting information on cars. I also try to talk to owners of cars I am interested in.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,702
    Pics and word of mouth out of Korea indicate the new Elantra will be much roomier

    I have a 2000 my daughter has a 2002 and hers is roomier than mine. How much room are they going to put in that car?

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • pocono35pocono35 Posts: 89
    It'll be bigger than Civic, Corolla and Mazda 3 and I am sure that it'll out-content them and be loaded with safety, XM standard and I hear a 153 hp 4 cylinder and a possible 2.7V6 option...the new 2.7 with 185. Hyundai wants to sell a million cars and this car has eventually sell nearly 200,000 in US to do so. I'm betting it is going to be very appealing!
  • sonotasonota Posts: 5
    DONT BUY THE CAR, I HAD OWNED A 06 SONOTA LX MODEL WITH V6 ENGINE WAS HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE CAR . SEEMS IT MIGHT BE A QUALITY ISSUE WITH THE NEW AMERICA PLANT . HYUNDAI PURCHASED THE CAR BACK FROM ME AND UPGRADED ME INTO THE AZERA WHICH IS BULDT ONLY IN KOREA . AND YES IT IS 100% BETTER THEN THE SONOTA . ITS SOLD AS A ROCK , IF YOU HAVE EVER DRIVEN IN A LEXUS OR A BENZ THIS CAR IS RIGHT UP THERE WITH THEM IT HAS ALL OF THE LUXURY FEATURES . IT IS MORE THEN I WOULD SEND ON A HYUNDAI PRODUCT . BUT I DID NOT HAVE TO . HYUNDAI ARRANGE FOR ME TO HAVE THE CAR AT THE EXACT SAME PRICE I PAID FOR THE SONOTA . I AM AMAZED HYUNDAI STEPED UP TO THE PLATE AND PURCHASED THE SONOTA BACK AND UPGRADED ME TO THERE FLAG SHIP MODEL. THE ONLY QUESTION WITH ME IS WILL IT HOLD UP . I HAVE ONLY BEEN IN IT FOR 1 WEEK . BUT SO FAR I AM IMPRESSED WITH THE CAR . THE RIDE IS OF THAT OF A LUXURY CAR. LIKE A BUICK BUT NOT AS FLOATY . IF YOUR GOING TO PURCHASE A HYUNDAI CAR AND CAN AFFORD IT . TEST DRIVE THE AZERA FIRST.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,702
    A 2.7 V6 in an Elantra would be a kick. Also aren't they toying with the ideal of putting a 2.0 liter turbo in the Accent?

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • mejozamejoza Posts: 17
    What's a Sonota?
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    Interesting news...isn't the base (I4) Sonata already equipped with more std. features than anyone else. I am not against the move, just curious as to what more they'd be offering, speculations, anyone?
  • wdlp65wdlp65 Posts: 13
    Don't listen to Sonota, I own an 06 LX and it's a very nice car with NO complaints and NO quality issues! It's very comfortable and the ride is quiet, the V-6 is very strong, overall I'm very happy with my purchase.

    Take one for a test drive and see for yourself.

    If I were you I'd spend the extra dollars and look into an LX as you get many more features not included with the GLS. Leather, 17" rims and tires that look great, the mirror, etc.

    Good Luck!
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    If I'm not mistaken, the current Elantra is already bigger than its compact competitors, in terms of (most) dimensions (EPA rated midsize; Sonata - large). Anyway, I am eager for this to drop in a few weeks, but don't count on a V6 just yet...
  • desertguydesertguy Posts: 730
    On March 8 you wrote:
    "NO I AM NOT GOING TO LET THEM BUY IT BACK JUST TO PUT ME IN ANOTHER PROBLEM CAR . THIS WAS MY SECOND HYUNDAI AND THIS WILL BE THE LAST ONE."

    Changed your mind huh? Now you have your third Hyundai! And what is with the all caps?? That is shouting on a forum board.
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    Go easy on your caps lock :)
  • goodegggoodegg Posts: 905
    I would think someone would listen to both Sonota and you and make their own decision. Isn't that how this thing works?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,686
    A couple of nice adds to the '07 I4 Sonatas would be a standard power seat (since the manual seat isn't very adjustable) and adding that little tuning button to the steering column (across the board). Now that the '07 Camry is out, maybe they will make standard equipment and options line up closer to that car. One thing they could do, for instance, is drop alloys as standard on the GLS, and maybe cut the price a little more (or pad their profit).
  • pocono35pocono35 Posts: 89
    A friend of mine owns a Hyundai dealership and informs me of communications he receives through Hyundai, dealer mtgs info, etc tells me that Hyundai is becoming a model of efficiency because of Montgomery...not because noone else has done what they are doing, but because they did it soooo fast with output, quality issues, etc. There has been nothing but minor issues relating to the Montgomery operation. In fact, this operation is soooo efficient that the recent decision to build the affiliate Kia plant was made because of the rapid success of the Montgomery plant. This conglomerate just decided to invest another $1.5 billion which makes 2 plants capable of building 600,000+ and they are becoming a force to deal with.
    Frankly, I am skeptical of reports stating Hyundai is buying back Sonatas when dealers are selling cars to new customers who are raving about their ownership of this car and when Nissan is reportedly having a fit 'down south' that Hyundai is kicking their a** after only one year and they can't get it right after almost 3! That's what is being said among the insiders
  • jimmy81jimmy81 Posts: 170
    I don't find them reliable

    CR rates between Mad Magazine and street sign


    Unless, of course, they happen to like your car. Then you like them.
  • jimmy81jimmy81 Posts: 170
    Who cares? Probably only you.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,702
    To be perfectly honest I have no ideal what they say about mine, or most, cars.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

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