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Hyundai Sonata 2006-2007

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  • zen2zen2 Posts: 226
    Just curious. Why does one of the writers say that the
    GLS V6 does not have traction control or ESC? It is
    my understanding that even the GL comes standard with both.
    Just checked Hyundai's website, and they are first standard
    features listed. :confuse:
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,621
    Was it a Canadian review? They sometimes don't get the same features as the U.S. cars do. (And in turn, we sometimes don't get features that they get.)
  • targettuningtargettuning Posts: 1,371
    My point exactly...in fact I e-mailed them... at their "contact us" link...and pointed this out. Seems they also got the model number wrong when they returned the test GLS to the dealer for paintwork repair in a later chapter(some one keyed it). They also stated the LX loaner car (incorrectly identified as a optioned up GLS) had power adjustable pedals, this true?? Not to my knowledge. In my opinion easy enough to see the same control panel for traction control (TCS) and electronic stability control (ESC) on their long term car. It is in the same place for all models, even the base GL.
  • Can anyone tell me what their bottom line price they paid for the 06 LX. All I can get out of the dealer is 24K to 26K. Surely you can buy one for less than that.
    Thanks in advance for any help. :)
  • I bought mine two weeks ago for $21,450 +TTL. $22,990 out the door. 06 LX6 with sunroof and 6 CD audio. Hope this helps.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Welcome to our Forums! Be sure to check out this discussion: Hyundai Sonata: Prices Paid & Buying Experience. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
  • 386 miles/15.03 gallons = 25.6 mpg

    Trip computer said 26.6
  • check the prices paid forum, they have lots of stories. Also check fritmall.com . for my 2006 lx, w/o the sunroof-cd changer option, i got 21.3, including destination charges. Minus 1k cash back and 1k financiing rebate, i was at 19.3, then add on ttl and 149 documentation fee

    (i never understood this "out the door" price - ttl varies so much from state to state. always go with the "before ttl" price, but include all rebates, etc).
  • w9cww9cw Posts: 888
    "Out the door price" simply means the real total delivered final price, excluding financing charges of course.

    Or, in other words:

    Dealer Selling Price + Doc Fee (NOTE: Doc fee is taxable) + Sales Tax = Subtotal 1 + Title Registration and License Fees = Subtotal 2 - Any applicable Rebates = Total Delivered Price or typically called "Out the door price"

    Since Doc fees, Sales Tax, and Title Registration and License Fees vary from not only state to state but between region to region within a state, perhaps what we really should be asking for comparisons is the Dealer Selling Price, i.e. how much does the dealer come off of MSRP. Some sell at slightly above Invoice, some below Invoice, and even some get into their Holdback as well. In that case, the Dealer Selling Price could be several hundred dollars below Invoice - if they are hungry enough!
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,558
    (NOTE: Doc fee is taxable)

    That would depend on the state your in, a doc fee is basically a service so here in ILL it would not be taxable since sales taxes do not apply to services.

    There are three types of people in this world. Those who are good at math and those who are not.

  • SNAKEWEASEL. Hahaha. I love that name. If I was a car salesman it would look perfectly suitable on my name badge.

    You say, "...doc fee is basically a service..." ?

    Hahaha. Hahahahaha!
    A service? For whose benefit? It does not serve my interests.

    Doc fee is just another profit center devised by dealers who have decided they can fleece the public for a few (hundred) dollars more than the agreed sale price. The little bit of time and/or money they spend to mail or electronically send information to the government is something they CHOOSE to do. It is in reality just another business overhead expense, similar to the electric bill, urinal cakes or lot rent. (I guess we are lucky they don't try to itemize those on the sales agreement too!)
    I believe another reason they insist on taking control of the submission of the paperwork for the title and registration is to make it more difficult for a buyer to back out of the deal, even if that buyer never took possession of the car (drove it off the lot).
    The dealers charge us a "Documentation Fee" because we let them get away with it. (Some states have accurately identified "doc fee" as a sham and prohibit or restrict such "fees".)

    Since the doc fee ends up being a part of the price you pay and is really just dealer profit (not a fee for service to you) it should be included here when we compare prices of cars we've bought.
    Actual money spent for tax, title and registration, and any other fees which must be paid to the local, county, state or federal government in connection with a car purchase should not be shown here for comparison purposes.

    Anyone agree or disagree? If so, why?
  • comment on the doc fee but I will reiterate how good of an overall deal the '06 Sonata is. This crushes with much weight any dissatisfaction a doc fee might cause, eh?

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,558
    SNAKEWEASEL. Hahaha. I love that name. If I was a car salesman it would look perfectly suitable on my name badge.

    Well I am glad you like it, but thats not the reason I got that nickname. As a kid I got the reputation of being slippery as a snake and could weasel out of anything, hence the name.

    A service? For whose benefit? It does not serve my interests.

    It is the fee for doing all the paperwork with the state. It benefits you because then you don't have to spend a few hours standing in line to process the paperwork. But yes its almost pure profit for the dealer.

    There are three types of people in this world. Those who are good at math and those who are not.

  • Pricing?
    I purchased the LX without the sunroof or 6-CD player and ended up at $19,800. I did this in December and they had the $1000 finance through Hyundai, $3000 instant, Dealer had internet $1000 off and their were another $2,000 worth of rebates that I did not qualify for, but negotiated down the extra rebate offerings.
  • haefrhaefr Posts: 600
    "...you would think rental car companies would stay away from Hyundais, including the Sonata, like the plague..."

    Why? Because you say so? Even Hyundais can stand up to the first 24,000 miles with little liklihood of a major breakdown. That's about the mileage where the rental agencies typically auction or sell off their rentals. And, while it's doubtful that Hyundai would cover a rental out to 60,000 miles while in the hands of a rental agency, issuing at least a 12 mo./12,000 mile commercial use warranty to the agency wouldn't be beyond reason.
  • The last few times I went to the Motor Vehicle Department I did not have to stand in any line for more than a minute, and that one time was just to get a number. I took that number with me and my current book to one of the comfy chairs and waited there reading for 20 minutes until I was called. Not bad experiences at all, particularly since the office is now smoker free. (In the old days, I used to hate going and waiting in what smelled like an ashtray.)
    Maybe its just me, but for $150 to $500 or so savings, I'd rather read my book and sign the title and registration papers at the MVD counter myself.
    But the new car dealers will not allow it.
  • Actually GM and other American motor companies have cut off some of their deals with the Rental car groups. This was stated in the news a couple of months ago for the reason that rental car prices were going up. One way for the Rental companies to hold their prices down is to go to a less expensive car that still has all the bells and whistles the customer is used to. I remember 20 years ago when you could only get GM products at Avis and now you never know what you are going to pick up (sounds like Forest Gump). I actually enjoy trying different vehicles.
    Enterprise has a great deal with Toyota and you would be shocked at what our company leases company vehicles for when you look at 3-years, 100,000 miles and initial sticker price.
  • nornenorne Posts: 136
    Rented a car from Alamo few days ago at LAX and they had a fleet of toyota sienna minivans for rental. I can recall when alamo rental car was strictly GM and GM vehicles only.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,621
    You need to look at my entire post to take my comment re "...you would think rental car companies would stay away from Hyundais, including the Sonata, like the plague..." in context and in the spirit in which I meant it. You will then see that I was talking about the fact that auto rental companies do NOT stay away from Hyundais like the Sonata, which raises the question about whether their resale value is as bad as some people claim.
  • sgk09sgk09 Posts: 3
    I just bought LX because, wanted leather and climate control+air filter, got package 3, because wanted sun roof.
    I paid $1450 for the package which consist of sun roof and upgraded 6 discs changer and subwoofer music system
    The roof cost $900 on GLS so i makes $550 for music upgrade.( I was told LX system is a better than one from GLS)
    I am not expert on sound system but I know, my son's $50 add on computer 2.1 speakers give more punch with drums and low frequency sound. So I do not find my LX/3 output worth $550 extra.(minus changer)
    I am sure there better after market system out there for that kind of bucks.
    Is LX buyers forced to pay the extra to get a roof? OR the system is really worth it?
    I would like to know from our experts.
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