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Hyundai Sonata 2006-2007

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  • We have to jump a number of cars on our lot from time to time. I'm not sure it is the batteries fault more than just sitting and not being driven. If I let one of my cars sit in storage for to long without starting and driving it the battery has gone/will go bad. ???
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    This reads as a fantastic, honest, thorough 2 year review. Kudos!!

    I hope Hyundai does, too, especially in the SUVs.

    Word has it diesel options should arrive soon, as with a lot of other automakers around the end of the decade, such as Honda you mentioned. I hear the first one would be in the Veracruz. I'd root for Hyundai (and other makers) to bring their whole diesel lineups to the states :)
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    A waste to use synthetic oil for 3,000 mile changes...throwing out money actually. You could double your change interval with no problems whatsoever actually. Did you look at your owners manual to see what it said about frequency and types of oil to use? Any good quality dino oil will give the same protection if you still insist on the 3,000 mile swap. You should really check out the Synthetic Oil forum here. There are some guys in there who will tell you the same thing and they do know what they're talking about.
    Hate to see folks waste $ and petroleum products if it's not necessary. People should really read their owners manual.

    The Sandman :)
  • tyguytyguy ColoradoPosts: 825
    To each their own, Sandman.

    And yes, I did read the owner's manual front to back the day after I purchased the car. FYI, page 5-6 states that oil should be changed every 3,000 miles or 3 months for Schedule B, and every vehicle in my area automatically classifies as Schedule B.

    I'd rather not get in an argument with Hyundai regarding the merits of synthetic oil should I have a motor failure between now and 8 years later or 100,000 miles, so I stick with their interval recommendations and rest easy. It's cheap insurance. Oh, and I work in the oil industry ;)

    -Ty
  • bobadbobad Posts: 1,587
    A waste to use synthetic oil for 3,000 mile changes...throwing out money actually.

    If you plan on keeping the car well beyond 150,000 miles, synthetic could possibly be beneficial. That's where dino oil related wear begins to show up.
  • I have a 2007 Hyundai Sonata GLS, 5 cylinder,
    automatic, that I purchased new about 3 months ago.
    I now have 9000 miles on this car.
    I am currently experiencing a problem with a
    vibration that occurs between 45 mph and 50 mph.
    This problem occurs when in full automatic mode
    and when applying slight pressure on the accelerator.
    When I am shifting the transmission myself and am in 4th gear, this problem does not occur.
    I have had the car into the dealer that I purchased it
    from. They have test driven the car and do recognize
    that the vibration does occur, but they say there is
    nothing they can do
    They say this occurs when the torque convertor is
    trying to go into some sort of lockup or something,
    and that this acts as an overdrive to aid gas mileage.
    However, they say they have nothing from Hyundai to
    fix the situation and that I must contact Hyundai
    directly. When I am shifting the transmission myself,
    they say this shift to "overdrive" does not occur and
    consequently no problem. They indicate that all the
    Sonata GLS,s with automatic have this same problem.
    My Dealer refuses to get involved even though I spoke
    a couple of times with the Service Manager and also
    the dealership General Manager.
    I have not yet contacted Hyundai directly but am
    wondering if anyone else has this type of problem with
    a Hyundai GLS 4 cylinder with automatic.
  • All modern cars now have a trickle current usage even when they just sit unused. The electronics are all "on" all the time...this includes various things such as the engine management computer, clocks, various displays all draw current even when the items are shut off. In "the old days" i.e. pre-electronic management systems when the car was off it was OFF. Now it is never truly off. Additionally, all the toys available now are taxing the 12 volt electrical systems on vehicles (manufacturers were/are looking into increasing the voltage of vehicle electrical systems to something around 30 volts) so perhaps the battery is never truly charged these days and the excess load leads to premature failure?....
  • bobadbobad Posts: 1,587
    What you are saying is exactly true. However, the battery drain is very low. The always on circuits, clocks, odometer, etc. could be run on a watch battery.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Additionally, all the toys available now are taxing the 12 volt electrical systems on vehicles (manufacturers were/are looking into increasing the voltage of vehicle electrical systems to something around 30 volts)

    Actually, it's 42 volt systems that are under testing now, to accomodate all the electrical toys that are on cars.
  • I've seen a lot of posts about mechanical issues on the Sonata, but luckily have not experienced any with my 2006 GLS V6 during the 18,000 miles that I have driven it. I have, however, had to make warranty claims on interior components that I have never had a problem with in any other car (this is my first Hyundai) that I have owned. The first thing to create problems was the clock spring in the steering wheel, which sounded like it wires were getting bound up whenever I turned the wheel. Very annoying. My dealer replaced the clock spring, but it still makes noise, just not as bad. I had to have the driver sun visor replaced after the plastic on the hinge side broke off. The visor would not stay in any position except hanging down in my line of vision, so had to tie it up with twine. After some dealer foul-ups, that was finally fixed. A couple of weeks ago I found a crack in my dash board. Took it to the dealer and they replaced the top dash pad. Just got it back and found they had scuffed the leather on the steering wheel, and possible cracked the "glass" over the guages. My complaints at this point are definitely more with the service tech's competence level, but it seems to me the quality of the interior components is lacking, which is disappointing. Other than that, I love this car!
  • Oops! I forgot I actually had a question to ask in my post. My dealer is ordering a new steering wheel to replace the one they scuffed while changing out the dash pad. Is there any reason they couldn't put one on that has all the radio controls that they are putting on the new ones?
  • mamamia2mamamia2 Posts: 698
    You have to get your dealer's good will to do that, since he will need to do some re-wiring, so the added buttons actually do their job in regards to your audio system.... Besides of ordering the '08 version of the steering wheel, of course.

    Maybe the dealer, after screwing up, will feel obligated to be extra nice to you?
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    In my experience, if there is a weakness in the Hyundai cars yet - it's in the interior pieces, their quality and their ability to stand up to routine work and stress. I have found, at least, the dealers are usually happy to try to make the customer happy, fixing without complaint, anything that breaks or wears prematurely.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,722
    Which Hyundais do you have experience with? The interiors on the two Elantras I've owned have held up very well. Both still look like new, except soil on the driver's floormat. None of the dozen or so 2006+ Sonatas I've driven, most rentals with a few miles to over 20k miles, have shown any wear or had any rattles in the interior.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Elantras & Sonatas, mostly Elantras seem to bow to stress the most. Steering wheels wear out if abused, plastic doors break, ash trays malfunction and come out. Now, I'm talking abuse here, not good care - and I'm not knocking the cars, I like them, own a Sonata right now myself, but I said IF there's a weakness in the Hyundais, that's where I think it may be. Please don't overreact to my assertion, I'm a Hyundai fan.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,722
    I'm not overracting, just trying to understand your point of view. Thanks for the clarification. Since I don't abuse my cars, that's probably why I've never had any interior problems on my Hyundais. I' ve never abused any of my cars, but I have had interior problems (e.g rattles, trim falling off, fabric door trim pulling out etc.) on other makes. Rental cars can be abused, and the interiors Sonatas and Elantras I've rented have seemed to hold up very well under rental car use. That's just my experience, take it for what it is.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I buy about 50 cars per year at auctions, where those rental cars end up. Finding an Elantra that has been a rental that has everything intact inside, is difficult to do some days. Out of 10, maybe 2 are in "good shape" inside. The rest usually have some damage, and abuse probably has a role played in it. How well a car holds up to tough conditions or abuse is a measure of their resilience wouldn't you say? It's one thing to rent a car in mid term somewhere, another to see the cars when they are pulled from the fleet and sold, after they've done their service. I rented a Kia Sportage in Costa Rica this spring, and it was in reasonably good shape, other than the tires, which were dangerous, IMO. It was an Avis car, but evidently in CR, even Avis doesn't rent cars at the level of maintenance as they do in the States. Other than that, the car was all there. But I wonder what kind of shape it will be in when it's retired? My experience with KIAs in the states hasn't been great. In Costa Rica, it was a high end car!
  • duke16duke16 Posts: 36
    As of Aug.'07 Hyundai will no longer be selling its cars to rental companies.Thats the reason you see so many Hyundai's at the auctons They have to sell them per Hyundai's orders.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,722
    Woh, that's very interesting! Is there a news story or other announcement you can share with us, I'd like to see all the details.

    While I think this is a good step for Hyundai, I will be sad not to be able to rent Hyundais like the Sonata. I just got a Sonata V6 last week on a long-distance business trip, and it was a pleasant travel companion.
  • duke16duke16 Posts: 36
    Article appeared in Las Vegas Reveiw Journal.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,722
    Can you be any more specific, e.g. do you know about when the article was published? I searched Google and the newspaper's web site and could find nothing about the Sonata and fleet sales. Thanks.
  • Any one know how to change that 3rd brake light.

    Do you have to unbolt it

    Can not seem to figure it out.
  • jntjnt Posts: 316
    AM antenna is very picky about having thing metallic near it. The tinning material would act like a signal shield that cuts down signal getting to the radio. It is no different than listening to radio while driving under long bridges and tunnels.

    The Sonata antenna is near the rear defroster wires (probably just above then like typical vehicles)

    jt
  • duke16duke16 Posts: 36
    Hyundai will no longer be availble from rental companies.This notice appeared back in August '07,in news papers,and the August issue of Motor Trend.
  • vabearvabear Posts: 18
    i took the oil filter reservoir cap off to change the filter, and the center post fell out (my bad). I need to know which end of the post goes to the bottom of the reservoir, the end with the "O" ring or the end without. I assume the "O" ring end but assumptions can be tricky. i do have the maintenance CD on the way but can't wait that long.
  • As I recall, the o-ring end goes into the cap. I remember mine fitting snugly with the new o-ring provided in the filter box. Make sure you remove and replace the o-rings. Good luck.
  • vabearvabear Posts: 18
    All is well, the large end of the post snaps into the cap, in my case the post had fallen out and I was not smart enough to look and see if the post snapped into the cap, SO, when I replaced the cap it did not seat as the post was impeding the cap seating, after removal and inspection, I snapped the post (large end) into the cap and then she seated and the oil leak is no more.
  • Well, here's my story/
    In May of 2007 I purchased two Hyundai Sonatas. One is the Limited, 6 cyl, automatic. The second is a GLS 4 cyl automatic.

    The Limited seems fine to-date. but I have a continuing problem with the GLS.
    At a constant speed betwen 45 mph and 50 mph I experience a vibration problem. This seems to emanate in the transmission.

    At the first oil change I reported this problem to my Hyundai dealer service, Had them take a test drive with me, and the Tech said this seemed to come from the torque converter. The service manager said the same, but said they had no error codes and nothing from Hyundai on this problem. He said there was nothing they could do. He did say however it was good I reported it as they may come up with something in the future and this way I am on record.
    I was told by the dealership general manager that they do not carry customer problems to Hyundai and that I would have to call Hyundai Customer Service myself. In other words, the dealer bowed out.

    I did call Hyundai and talked to a phone rep named Nick. He said he would contact the dealer and get back to me. After not hearing from him for about a week, I called again and Nick was busy but I got the message that he had called the wrong dealer. I gave Customer service the correct dealer again.
    After another week went by, I called Nick again and was told he couldn't contact me because he was calling the wrong number
    I then asked to talk to a Supervisor. Two days later a Hyundai supervisor did call me and said he would look into it but it could take a couple of weeks.

    One week later the dealer service manager called me and said a Factory Rep was in and "would I like to bring my car in?"
    I did, and subsequently went for a test drive with the Factory rep and the Service Manager.
    When I experienced the vibration I asked the Rep if he could feel the same and he said he felt nothing. I asked the Service Manager (who had previously experienced it) and He said, "I don't know , I was looking at the tach"
    To make a long story short , the Factory Rep said "Are you talking about the torque converter lockup? Thats normal".
    From that point on, the Factory Rep would only repeat that it was performing to company standards and that it is no different that any other Hyundai 4 cylinder.
    So bottom line, I have a 2007 Hyundai GLS 4 cyl, automatic that has a vibration problem between 45 mph and 50 mph. It is such that people riding with me have asked what that is?
    Also, it is something that Hyundai will not admit is a problem and will do nothing.
    I don't know if this problem is unique to my GLs. If so than the Hyundai rep wasn't being honest with me.
    If this problem occurs in all 2007 Hyundai GLS's then Hyundai has a problem they're not addressing.

    In any case, after buying two 2007 Sonatas based in large part on their warranty claims, I feel like I made a mistake. Based on this experience I will never purchase another Hyundai product.
  • I purchased a 2007 Sonata GLS 4cyl 5speed man back in May and I believe I have the same shake you described. I believe it is one of the front tires. I have not taken it to anyone nor have I even been back to the dealer as I detest garages and I do my own service. I guess I have another 60,000 miles until I find out if I am right either way at $13,900 I win! I really enjoy the car and plan purchase another Hyundai, hopefully the Azera, when I am through with the Sonata! ;)
  • rhduke00rhduke00 Posts: 129
    ...I don't know if this problem is unique to my GLs....

    One way to find out is to ask your dealer or another dealer to let you test drive a 2007 GLS and see if it does the same thing.
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