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Both the Camry and Avalon have rear seats that can fit adults comfortably.
~alpha
Still no 4WD available in NA? :surprise:
But it reminds me of the smaller version of Mazda Millenia.
http://thehollywoodextra.blogspot.com/2005/12/2007-camry-info_05.html
Also the 4 cylinder hybrid with 192 hp and CVT. Hope this info is correct..
It may be correct, but it also could be an error on the original site. It is being forwarded around the internet as fact though.
Why do you want larger brakes? The size of the rotor isn't the limiting factor in the Camry and most cars. It's the tire to road coefficient. If you can lock the wheels on a dry surface, then larger rotors aren't going to make you stop in a shorter distance.
seemes to be not working for me, anyone else facing the same problem?
I wouldn't mind opting for the Avalon if it weren't so darn expensive here in Canada. Toyota doesn't sell the much cheaper base model, XL, or even Touring. Does Toyota think we Canadians are made of money? The laser cruise control is a real baiter for me anyway considering the increasing # of cars trying to cut you off these days. If it were only an option for the Camry, hmm....
Why is al all of a sudden Accord guy?
As it was explained to me by the local Neil Bonnett Honda sales manager, with the refreshed Accord, 2006s were in short supply for a while, causing a drop in sales, but not demand. Same thing happened in 2001 with the Camry...the 4-year old (98-02) Accord took more sales for a period of 2001 than did Camry, b/c Camrys (Camries?) were hard to find. Not necessarily a drop in demand, but in supply.
P.S. (the manager didn't tell me about the Camry supply problem of late 2001; I read that in MT)
Honda retail=160K, fleet=3375 (2.1%)
Camry retail=150K, fleet=24K (14%)
By comparison, Taurus fleet sales were 76% of the total and Grand Prix was 52%.
Proves my point- The Honda is a better sales story to individuals, and at a lower incentive rate.
Not surprised about the Taurus, but I had no idea the GP was that high!
~alpha
I'm at work now and I can't remember the URL but it was www.fleet-???" and I found it with a Google search on fleet sales or fleet registrations or something like that. Lots of interesting data there. There are quite a few American cars/trucks in which the majority of volume is fleet (they also subdivide the fleet numbers into commercial, rental, government.) Sorry to get so far off topic.
much appreciated, Imacmil.
~alpha
Be careful of the benefits of laser cruise control. In the manual it specifically warns about other vehicles cutting into the window of saftey you have between you and the vehicle in front of you. IOW it doesnt react immediately if someone cuts you off... and it shouldn't. It's not a failsafe device although Toyota is testing an advanced accident avoidance safety system.
Consider what might happen if the LCC system did react immediately to someone who cuts you off when you are going say 120 kph with a 6 vehicle gap between you and the one in front. Suddenly there's 2 vehicle gap. Would you want the system to 'dethrottle' you outside of your control in order to regain the 6 vehicle gap? What if someone swerves into your lane partially and back into their own lane? Again an immediate 'throttle-down' automatically might not be the safest way to stay out of an accident. LCC is a relatively expensive little safety toy at the moment. Nice feature but driver input is much more critical.
standard four wheel discs that are larger
LASER cruise control (like on Avalon)
torquey 4 banger
wider car, if ain't gonna be longer
stronger sheet metal for higher side impact protection
A continuation of the good turning circle
Perhaps those high-intensity discharge lamps (aka blinders)
What I don't want:
smaller trunk
less headroom
jagged shifter
These are all great features to have but as others have said the obvious option is the Avy except the 4c.
The basic fact though is that except for the few who want the 2540 model, XLE 4c, 8/10 buyers vote with their wallets and do not want any of the above. And to avoid the mistakes of the domestic carmakers the Japanese and Koreans have recognized that basic transportation sells and makes big bucks when done astutely i.e.; dont load up the vehicles with anything more than the majority of the buyers want and more importantly for what they will pay. Allow the buyer to choose how far up the luxury scale he or she want to travel.
My 1980 Scirocco came with every available option. That included such luxuries as right hand mirror, rear defrost and wiper, cloth seats (upgrade over vinyl), radio with cassette, A/C, alloy wheels etc. These things are now standard on almost all cars.
The Scirocco did not have (or have available)power mirrors, power steering, abs (or any of todays safety features), power windows, power door locks, automatic tranny (may have been available some years)., intermittent wipers, cup holders, trip computer, outside temperature. All of these things were only on real luxury cars at the time - if they were even available. Now they are standard on inexpensive cars.
Despite what it did not have, that Scirocco had the best feel of the road of any car I have driven - including the recent 530i. Hard to beat manual steering for feedback. Made my Integra feel like an overboosted, understeering, ungainly Buick.
-Dudley
Both '07 automatics include a manual shift gate. The Hybrid teams a special 2.4-liter 4-cyl gas engine with a battery-powered electric motor for 192 net hp. It teams with a continuously variable automatic transmission (CVT) providing near-infinite drive ratios. Like Toyota's smaller Prius hybrid, Camry's automatically drives on either or both power sources, depending on conditions, and requires no plug-in charging. Antilock 4-wheel disc brakes are standard for all models. So are front torso side airbags, head-protecting curtain side airbags, and, for the first time, a driver's knee airbag.
The Hybrid adds antiskid/traction control that's available for other models. SEs come with 17-inch wheels, the other models with 16s. SEs also have a firmer suspension, and specific trim inside and out. The Hybrid also has unique interior and exterior trim. A split folding rear seat is standard except on SE and Hybrid, which have a fixed seat with center pass-through. Leather upholstery is included on the V6 XLE, available for the 4-cyl XLE and the SE. A navigation system with CD changer and wireless cell-phone link is optional for SE and XLE, as are heated seats. A new-to-Camry keyless-entry/starting system is included on Hybrid and available for V6 XLE.
http://thehollywoodextra.blogspot.com/
CE 4c ICE $20500
LE 4c ICE $22000
LE 4c HSD $26500 Like Pck #6 Prius only bigger
LE V6 ICE $24500
SE 4c ICE $23500 + Navi, leather, htd seats, BT
SE V6 ICE $25500 + Navi, leather, htd seats, BT
XLE 4c ICE $24500 + Navi, Leather, Htd seats, BT
XLE V6 ICE $28000 + Navi, BT
+$650 VSC/Trac option where requested.
Sorry, just raggin on the rookie
~alpha
kdhspyder did a wonderful job of explaining the pros and cons of it a few posts back.
ps.
I have a lot of fatties in my family so I'm hopin' that the new Camry will be a tad wider by an inch or so. It'll truly be amazing for a midsize car to have 17.65 + cu ft if what Macleans reported is true. (I doubt it though) That really goes to show that Toyota knows how to utilize the length of the platform, unlike the Impala, which for example, has less legroom in the back.
TORRANCE, Calif., Dec. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A.,
Inc. will stage the world premier of the all-new 2007 Camry mid-size sedan and
the much-anticipated Camry Hybrid at a press conference at the 2006 North
American International Auto Show in Detroit.
The Toyota Camry has been the best-selling car in America for seven of the
past eight years. The completely restyled and reengineered Camry will feature
significantly improved performance and new level of comfort and refinement.
Toyota extends its hybrid leadership by making its exclusive Hybrid
Synergy Drive available in the 2007 Camry. The Camry Hybrid will deliver the
highest level of Camry performance ever achieved in both fuel efficiency and
low emissions and also achieve impressive power.
The press conference will be held on Monday, January 9 at 1:20 PM in the
Riverview Ballroom in COBO Center and simulcast live to the Toyota display
area at the show. A video clip of the press conference will be available for
viewing following the event on the Toyota.com website.
SOURCE Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.
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Steering wheel shot shows A few buttons with what looks to be phones- Bluetooth capability available, even without leather? Perhaps? What else is this?
Back to the exterior, I think its very sharp, though I feel this one had a lower body/cladding kit that will not necessarily be standard; the current Camry SE has one available as well, though I dont see it often.
Alloys arent super different, but are very attractive.
I also agree- you'll see wood in the XLE.
Questions remain- VSC standard on V6s? Output of the 4 cylinder? MPG numbers? Weight? Steering and brake feel, especially on non-SEs. Oh how time will tell..
~alpha
~alpha
We've waited that long, we will wait for another month... :shades:
I agree, looks similar to the lower body cladding already offered on the current SE. I hope that's what it is ... I don't really like the current body kit and this one doesn't look any better, IMHO. Pretty sharp looking otherwise, though the interior sure has a lot of silver painted surfaces. Or is that brushed aluminum trim like the current model has?
How do you know this car had the 3.5L V6? Did I miss badging? Its gotta say it somewhere, that engine is KILLER!!!
~alpha
Thank you for all your photos and comments, tommyg
~alpha
Looks very sharp.
http://img101.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=a10_Toyota_Camry_SE.jpg
http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=79e_Toyota_Camry_SE1.jpg
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