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2007 Toyota Camry

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  • "Some of those things will be on the new Camry, the rest you need to just get an Avalon instead of expecting everything the Avalon has to be on the cheaper Camry. Why would anyone buy an Avalon in that case? Do you think Toyota wants to kill the sales of the Avalon by putting all the features of an Avalon on another car selling for thousands less?"

    I wouldn't mind opting for the Avalon if it weren't so darn expensive here in Canada. Toyota doesn't sell the much cheaper base model, XL, or even Touring. Does Toyota think we Canadians are made of money? The laser cruise control is a real baiter for me anyway considering the increasing # of cars trying to cut you off these days. If it were only an option for the Camry, hmm....
  • poiuy3poiuy3 Posts: 10
    That is no news. And it doesn't explain why Accord sales is going DOWN and Camry is UP.

    Why is al all of a sudden Accord guy?
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    explain why Accord sales is going DOWN and Camry is UP.
    As it was explained to me by the local Neil Bonnett Honda sales manager, with the refreshed Accord, 2006s were in short supply for a while, causing a drop in sales, but not demand. Same thing happened in 2001 with the Camry...the 4-year old (98-02) Accord took more sales for a period of 2001 than did Camry, b/c Camrys (Camries?) were hard to find. Not necessarily a drop in demand, but in supply.

    P.S. (the manager didn't tell me about the Camry supply problem of late 2001; I read that in MT)
  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,756
    2005 six month sales numbers for Honda & Camry:

    Honda retail=160K, fleet=3375 (2.1%)
    Camry retail=150K, fleet=24K (14%)

    By comparison, Taurus fleet sales were 76% of the total and Grand Prix was 52%.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Kudos, and AWESOME!!! Where did you get those figures? I've been looking for stats on Fleet for ages. Thanks!

    Proves my point- The Honda is a better sales story to individuals, and at a lower incentive rate.

    Not surprised about the Taurus, but I had no idea the GP was that high!

    ~alpha
  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,756
    "Where did you get those figures?"

    I'm at work now and I can't remember the URL but it was www.fleet-???" and I found it with a Google search on fleet sales or fleet registrations or something like that. Lots of interesting data there. There are quite a few American cars/trucks in which the majority of volume is fleet (they also subdivide the fleet numbers into commercial, rental, government.) Sorry to get so far off topic.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    I'd sincerely doubt the Laser Cruise Control will be on the Camry. It's an upscale feature that the semi-luxury and luxury buyer will go for. The economy minded frugal people-mover buyer will not pay for it. If they put it in the vehicle they'd just have to discount it away at time of sale.

    Be careful of the benefits of laser cruise control. In the manual it specifically warns about other vehicles cutting into the window of saftey you have between you and the vehicle in front of you. IOW it doesnt react immediately if someone cuts you off... and it shouldn't. It's not a failsafe device although Toyota is testing an advanced accident avoidance safety system.

    Consider what might happen if the LCC system did react immediately to someone who cuts you off when you are going say 120 kph with a 6 vehicle gap between you and the one in front. Suddenly there's 2 vehicle gap. Would you want the system to 'dethrottle' you outside of your control in order to regain the 6 vehicle gap? What if someone swerves into your lane partially and back into their own lane? Again an immediate 'throttle-down' automatically might not be the safest way to stay out of an accident. LCC is a relatively expensive little safety toy at the moment. Nice feature but driver input is much more critical.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    What I want:

    standard four wheel discs that are larger
    LASER cruise control (like on Avalon)
    torquey 4 banger
    wider car, if ain't gonna be longer
    stronger sheet metal for higher side impact protection
    A continuation of the good turning circle
    Perhaps those high-intensity discharge lamps (aka blinders)

    What I don't want:

    smaller trunk
    less headroom
    jagged shifter


    These are all great features to have but as others have said the obvious option is the Avy except the 4c.

    The basic fact though is that except for the few who want the 2540 model, XLE 4c, 8/10 buyers vote with their wallets and do not want any of the above. And to avoid the mistakes of the domestic carmakers the Japanese and Koreans have recognized that basic transportation sells and makes big bucks when done astutely i.e.; dont load up the vehicles with anything more than the majority of the buyers want and more importantly for what they will pay. Allow the buyer to choose how far up the luxury scale he or she want to travel.
  • The Accord is still ugly. That's why the fleets DONT want it. :)
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,456
    The thing is - the luxury scale is a moving target. What is considered luxury today, may be standard equipment of the cheapest car in a few years.

    My 1980 Scirocco came with every available option. That included such luxuries as right hand mirror, rear defrost and wiper, cloth seats (upgrade over vinyl), radio with cassette, A/C, alloy wheels etc. These things are now standard on almost all cars.

    The Scirocco did not have (or have available)power mirrors, power steering, abs (or any of todays safety features), power windows, power door locks, automatic tranny (may have been available some years)., intermittent wipers, cup holders, trip computer, outside temperature. All of these things were only on real luxury cars at the time - if they were even available. Now they are standard on inexpensive cars.

    Despite what it did not have, that Scirocco had the best feel of the road of any car I have driven - including the recent 530i. Hard to beat manual steering for feedback. Made my Integra feel like an overboosted, understeering, ungainly Buick.

    -Dudley
  • America's best-selling car is redesigned for 2007, getting new styling, more power and features, and, for the first time, a gas/electric hybrid model. Camry retains the same overall length as the 2002-2006 version, but adds 2.2 inches to wheelbase and cuts height by nearly an inch. Base-model curb weight is up some 175 lb. New features include standard instead of optional curtain side airbags. The line consists of a price-leader CE trim level, volume LE, sporty SE, and luxury XLE. All come with a 158-hp 2.4-liter 4-cyl engine and a 5-speed manual transmission or a 5-speed automtic. LE, SE, and XLE also offer V6 versions with a 268-hp 3.5-liter and a 6-speed automatic transmission. Camry's previous most-powerful V6 had 210 hp and used a 5-speed automatic.

    Both '07 automatics include a manual shift gate. The Hybrid teams a special 2.4-liter 4-cyl gas engine with a battery-powered electric motor for 192 net hp. It teams with a continuously variable automatic transmission (CVT) providing near-infinite drive ratios. Like Toyota's smaller Prius hybrid, Camry's automatically drives on either or both power sources, depending on conditions, and requires no plug-in charging. Antilock 4-wheel disc brakes are standard for all models. So are front torso side airbags, head-protecting curtain side airbags, and, for the first time, a driver's knee airbag.

    The Hybrid adds antiskid/traction control that's available for other models. SEs come with 17-inch wheels, the other models with 16s. SEs also have a firmer suspension, and specific trim inside and out. The Hybrid also has unique interior and exterior trim. A split folding rear seat is standard except on SE and Hybrid, which have a fixed seat with center pass-through. Leather upholstery is included on the V6 XLE, available for the 4-cyl XLE and the SE. A navigation system with CD changer and wireless cell-phone link is optional for SE and XLE, as are heated seats. A new-to-Camry keyless-entry/starting system is included on Hybrid and available for V6 XLE.

    http://thehollywoodextra.blogspot.com/
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Speculating..
    CE 4c ICE $20500
    LE 4c ICE $22000
    LE 4c HSD $26500 Like Pck #6 Prius only bigger
    LE V6 ICE $24500
    SE 4c ICE $23500 + Navi, leather, htd seats, BT
    SE V6 ICE $25500 + Navi, leather, htd seats, BT
    XLE 4c ICE $24500 + Navi, Leather, Htd seats, BT
    XLE V6 ICE $28000 + Navi, BT

    +$650 VSC/Trac option where requested.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    Why is the same info being posted over and over?
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Dont know...why is someone whos been a TownHall member for 2 weeks asking such obvious questions?

    :)

    Sorry, just raggin on the rookie

    ~alpha
  • Hate to be uninformed, so please tell me what is it??????
  • The Dynamic Laser Cruise Control system (as available on the Avalon) detects slower vehicles traveling ahead and decreases speed accordingly, and maintains a pre-selected distance between the preceding vehicle. It detects when the preceding vehicle changes driving lanes and increases the car to a pre-set speed.

    kdhspyder did a wonderful job of explaining the pros and cons of it a few posts back.

    ps.

    I have a lot of fatties in my family so I'm hopin' that the new Camry will be a tad wider by an inch or so. It'll truly be amazing for a midsize car to have 17.65 + cu ft if what Macleans reported is true. (I doubt it though) That really goes to show that Toyota knows how to utilize the length of the platform, unlike the Impala, which for example, has less legroom in the back.
  • Got it, thanks.
  • poiuy3poiuy3 Posts: 10
    Does the V6 gets better MPG than the I4? Avalon can have 31MPG so Camry should be at least 32MPG V6.
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    No. Current 4-cylinder is 24/34 city/hwy.
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    All-New Sixth-Generation Toyota Camry to Make World Debut at 2006 North American International Auto Show

    TORRANCE, Calif., Dec. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A.,
    Inc. will stage the world premier of the all-new 2007 Camry mid-size sedan and
    the much-anticipated Camry Hybrid at a press conference at the 2006 North
    American International Auto Show in Detroit.
    The Toyota Camry has been the best-selling car in America for seven of the
    past eight years. The completely restyled and reengineered Camry will feature
    significantly improved performance and new level of comfort and refinement.
    Toyota extends its hybrid leadership by making its exclusive Hybrid
    Synergy Drive available in the 2007 Camry. The Camry Hybrid will deliver the
    highest level of Camry performance ever achieved in both fuel efficiency and
    low emissions and also achieve impressive power.
    The press conference will be held on Monday, January 9 at 1:20 PM in the
    Riverview Ballroom in COBO Center and simulcast live to the Toyota display
    area at the show. A video clip of the press conference will be available for
    viewing following the event on the Toyota.com website.

    SOURCE Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.
  • tommyg12tommyg12 Posts: 158
    Very different than the last generation. This model was a 'SE V6.
  • guillguill Posts: 94
    Did you have an opportunity to take a picture of it?
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    How about more details than that?
  • tommyg12tommyg12 Posts: 158
    Lot's of 'em. Unfortunately it appears that they have to be hosted to allow picture posting here. Have to work on it.
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  • tommyg12tommyg12 Posts: 158
    Browse the album....

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  • day9day9 Posts: 57
    Thanks for the pictures. Looks very nice.
  • jrock65jrock65 Posts: 1,371
    Interior looks kinda sterile. It's the type that would really benefit from some wood.
  • tommyg12tommyg12 Posts: 158
    I wouldn't expect wood in the SE. I'm sure the XLE will have wood trim.
  • bartalk3bartalk3 Posts: 692
    This SE did not appear to have climate control (neither does the '06). Is that accurate? Climate control is a major convenience and though I like the sportier ride of the SE, lacking it is a definite disadvantage.
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