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2007 Toyota Camry

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  • Great pictures. Thanks for taking the time to post these here.
  • WOW madalin :) , you are GOOD! Best/most complete LE pics I've seen so far. Seems like the cloth seats/interior are made of good quality materials like those in 02/03 LEs. I find that the seats materials in 04/05/06 after mid-term refresh were of lesser quality than those of during the first 2 yrs of productions.

    I would assume the 07/08 will have the same good quality seats materials than those 09/10/11 (after min-term refresh) if history repeats itself.

    Thanks for the GREAT LE pics. :P
  • I handle the ordering for our dealership and our first shipment includes LE and SE 4 cyl. models with Stability Control. I ordered these on the first wave and have the only ones in the Southeast. If you want this option I recommend ordering early because Toyota receives a limit of how many they can build with this option due to EPA regulations and some other gov't red tape. This should not be a problem for your dealer to get if you will order it before everyone else does.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,456
    Why on earth would the government limit the availability of a safety feature?
  • It has something to do with gross vehicle weight and CAFE (fuel efficiency) standards. They are limited on almost every option (nav, limited slip, sunroof, etc.) The best advice I can offer is if you want to get a car outside of the normal cookie cutter configuration order it at the first of the model year. If Toyota builds it in the US it should not take longer than 6 weeks to get.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    I sell them too and this is very, very suspicious. I'll have to do some digging on my own. I've never heard of this - ever - in our ordering procedures.

    Now what might be a factor is that the new Camry is just 'under' a specific CAFE weight limit, like a boxer, and if it adds a pound or two it gets penalized or blocked from fighting. That's what I'll have to investigate.

    Nevertheless, as in all product launches the vehicles that are the sexiest and most loaded will be produced first in order to generate the 'sizzle' factor. The Camry especially is the preeminent 'cookie-cutter' vehicle in the US. The 4c CE and LE will remain 50% of sales.

    To believe that all the 'good' cars are going to be built and sold at first launch and there will be none left later in the year is, ahem, hoohaa.
  • w9cww9cw Posts: 888
    In looking at these wonderful pictures, I noted the trunk hinge assembly in the 2007 Camry LE. In the previous generation, the hinge assembly was covered by (or, within) the carpet trim, but it appears this generation's assembly protrudes into the trunk compartment itself. Unless there's a difference in the design of trunk hinge that I'm not seeing in the photos, this is a step backward, and certainly not an improvement.
  • tuffytuffy Posts: 63
    Yes, my 2005 XLE has the swamp green on the radio and the auto HVAC display. A pretty Aqua color like the compass on the rear view mirror would have been much much better! You are right, the instrumentation on the 2005 is excellent as the Optitron luminescent background is Lexus-like and superb. I hope the 2007 model instrumentation is as bright.

    I thought the acceleration on my 99 4 cylinder was sufficient but the 2005 is certainly much better. I normally accelerate very very gently when possible to concerve fuel. I was always taught to accelerate like there was an egg between your foot and the accelerator and you don't want to break the egg. Braking the same way has helped me to routinely average over 40 mpg on highway driving with both vehicles and the high 20s in city driving.

    You raised a new issue I hadn't seen, the 16 inch tires on the 2007 are bigger than the P 215/60/R16 on the 2005 and 2006 models? Good, a wide tire helps to provide better traction but might begin to erode my mpg. Everything has a trade off.

    Regarding your comment on size I still think the Camry could have provided several more inches of leg room in the back seat and still been substantially different from the Avalon
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    You have amply indicated why I didn't even bother to try to get VSC on the 2005 Camry XLE 4 I bought last May. (I'm in Virginia also.)

    I did get the side airbags though, which were very important for me.
  • I have a question for those of you who work at a Toyota dealership:

    As far as how quickly a dealership begins to accumulate a decent inventory of '07 Camrys, does it make any difference as to how many '06s they still have on the lot to sell?

    In other words, would dealers with a pretty high inventory of '06s be a less likey place to shop early for '07s, assuming they would not want customers to be distracted from buying an '06 because of the presence of the brand new model to compare it with? Or is this just not a factor in how many '07s they begin to stock.

    Just curious. Could be a guide as to where to begin expecting more of the '07s?
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Toyota truly shines in this regard. As of yesterday the new '07's were being built in KY.. the last '06's proly were built on Jan 31st or so. The plan always is that the last of the old model is sold the day before the first of the new model arrives. That's the theory.

    Actually, it does work very close to this plan. It's up to each store to do what's necessary but the bigger ones usually so a very good job of planning/selling. A more likely scenario is that a fast moving store may sell out of the '06's a week or so before the '07's arrive.
  • fredvhfredvh Posts: 853
    Thanks madalin for the great pictures. I really appreciate you taking the time to take them and to post them here at Edmunds.
    I want to personally welcome you to Edmunds. You will find a lot of great information here. As for me, I am seriously interested in the new Camry. It will be a few weeks before they are at the lots. Other models under consideration are the new ES350 and the Acura TSX.
  • I don't about the regulation but manufacturer will need to forecast the ratio of all parts at least 3 months in advance. I think Toyota will use the current gen to plot the new gen to be safe. You don't wanna end up having lots parts sitting in your shelf that won't sell.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Thanks for the pictures from the Chi-town show.

    I actually like the 16 inch alloys shown on that LE a bit better than the ones on the XLEs and Hybrid, they are different, or did I just look too quickly.

    ~alpha
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    You are correct. However, we mostly order by what is on the regions TVO and accessorize accordingly. I have not seen a TVO yet as I'm no longer "privy" to that information but being the industrious individual that I am I will find it.
    :surprise:
    Mackabee
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    ;) At our store on the other side of town.. I just ask. New management aye?
  • bartalk3bartalk3 Posts: 692
    You're right, the trunk hinges on the new Camry are not covered any longer. I took special note of that. However, the hinges seem to be moved so far over to the left and right edges of the trunk that they probably would not intrude or crush anything placed in the trunk.

    On the Lexus ES350, derived from the Camry, the trunk hinges are covered. Apparently Toyota feels they're in the catbird seat and don't have to offer outside struts on these models. The Lexsus GS has the outside struts.
  • bartalk3bartalk3 Posts: 692
    Saw the new Camry at the Chicago show. The deal breaker for me was the ghastly yellow fake wood/plastic that clashes with the silver dash on the XLE. It's absolutely atrocious. The thought of having to look at that for years while driving the car just put the kibosh on the whole thing. The SE has silver throughout, a big improvement, but I'm used to the luxury and convenience of climate control which for some reason they won't offer on the SE.

    Aside from the horrible plastic, the car was great. Firm, comfortable seats, great engine, great exterior, more aggressive look, ergonomic dash. Some of the controls felt a bit flimsy (climate control, etc.), and passenger seat should be 8-way, not just four way.

    On to the Lexus ES350, a gorgeous interior, plus many other gizmos and options (power tilt/telescope steering column, power sunshade, 8- or 10-way passenger seat. Elegant (but expensive, of course).
  • I was thinking about buying a new civic or sonata, but after some research on 07 camry, I changed my mind. I liked the blue LE in chicago autoshow.

    My problem is I don't know what to do with my current car.
    My current car has more than 200k ('95 accord), no airbags (a minor accident), no sidebrake (broken cable recently), broken temperature knob, driver side window motor almost dead, shorted out dc-outlet, rattling noise here and there, but overall it still runs well. I get 26-27 mpg (70% highway). it has been dependable since it was new, and i like it very much. but i can't resist the temptation of 07 camry...

    when is right time to buy a new car to replace an old one?
  • Do all '07 Camry XLE interiors have light color fake wood? Or is it based on interior color? I don't think the color combos are published yet.

    The Avalon has a nice looking dark wood with the graphite leather.
  • mdchachimdchachi Posts: 275
    I hardly think you're a newcarholic if you're driving a '95 Accord.

    > when is right time to buy a new car to replace an old one?

    Economically speaking... it's when the old car dies. Emotionally speaking... as soon as possible.

    :)
  • yes, i'm cured then. :)

    well, recently i bought a new car for my wife. that old car pissed me off big time. since then, i started thinking about getting another car to replace my car.

    people told me not to buy a newly redesigned model to avoid the increased demand and to avoid some quality issues. so when is good time to buy this 07 model in order to get a better deal and avoid any potential issues? any suggestions?

    Thanks in advance.
  • I'm in the same boat you're in. I want to buy the '07 Camry but it is a known fact that first year models have a lot of bugs - even Toyotas.

    My '03 Accord was a first year re-design and is basically a lemon :lemon: The '05-'06 are reporting few problems.

    Unfortunately it takes at least two years to get a model without bugs. So...take your chances or wait for an '09.
  • bartalk3bartalk3 Posts: 692
    I have a feeling all the XLEs, regardless of color, have that yellowish fake wood plastic. The car I sat in had gray leather and it had that color plastic. I think it's standard on all of them. That's also what I've seen in all the interior pictures I've seen of the car.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    The wood looks ugly, but they only show pics with the grey interior. It probably would look better with the tan interior. The yellow wood clashes with grey. They should have known better than to combine those two colors.
  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,756
    ".. it is a known fact that first year models have a lot of bugs"

    Nonsense. This is a misconception carried over from many years ago. If you look at Consumer Reports data for Toyota and Honda, you will find excellent quality throughout the range of years shown. You can't extrapolate your Accord experience to the entire vehicle population.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    If anything it's some annoying little nits. nothing major. Heck it's just about the same vehicle as before with better styling and more safety features. Not a whole lot different
  • petlpetl Posts: 610
    I beg to differ. I own a 2002 Camry XLE. It was purchased about 6 months after the new model was released. The only problem incurred to date was a minor rattle in the moonroof (repaired under warranty). It now has nearly 100,000 kilometers (60,000 miles). It has only required regular maintenance since the day it was purchased. I may have them check my brakes next time I take it in for an oil change. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones. The point is, not every vehicle has problems in their baby year. And if they do have "bugs", it certainly doesn't take 2 years to work them out.
  • larryt22larryt22 Posts: 125
    I agree it does not take 2 years to work out the bugs. Heck it is more like sometimes they never do. On the last generation Carmy, the 2006 model year has the same squeaks and rattles that the 2002 did. Just poor design with too much plastic to make them not have interior squeaks and rattles I guess. From what I saw at the Chicago Auto Show, it looks like there is just as much plastic as before so I don't expect any miracles when it comes to those noises. If you live in an area with constantly changing temperatures or cold weather like I do, you just turn up the radio when they squeak and rattle and try to ignore them. The 2007 isn't a complete new platform, it is just a revision of the old one. If you want a 4cyl, the mechanicals are still the same. If you want the 3.5, the engine has been proven in other models, so the 6-speed auto is the main mechanical difference. I can't imagine there is much of anything on the 2007 that is unproven that should stop anyone from buying a 2007 and waiting for a 2008. If this is the car you want, then you ought to go for it as soon as you can find the one you want and can get the deal you are satisfied with.
  • I agree. 2 years seems too long. But anyway, I'll probably wait for a while until initial demand goes down little so that I can get a better deal.

    Considering this is just a family car that everyone has, would there be any initial rush of demand at all?
    When I went to the Chicago autoshow, people around me didn't seem to be too impressed with the 07Camry. I overheard people saying like, "is this new camry? ...(silence)" and saw them just walk away. Not many people around the carmy (at least when I was there) compared with, say civic,vw?.

    A few things I found out at the autoshow were,
    *Aux input jack is hidden inside the storage space.
    *even CE had audio controllers on the steering wheel.
    *one model had Toyo tires while others had Michelline (not sure whether it was CE or not).

    For those who's considering a 07, are you considering vehicle stability control with tracking? I never had a car with VSC, but I never had any major problem in snow/rain (I live in midwest). But I saw a couple of articles saying that VSC is worth every penny. Anyone has some opinions/experiences?
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