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  • 2006 Rio's today but needed more time than I thought to clean the '01 Sportage 4x4 out. Man, do those dogs take a toll on the back seat area! I whisked it pretty clean, though.

    Also, yesterday, I took the Sportsman to Grease Monkey to get a Lube-Oil-Filter and then through the car wash. She's shinin' nicely, men!

    All nice and ready to trade if I so choose. I'm working on innovative reasons to let my wife know we just have to have a 2006 Kia Rio5 or Kia Rio LX. Gas mileage is better for those road trips later this spring and summer, we'd be getting a brand new car with 0 miles, we'd be inhaling that new Korean car smell, etc., etc! ;)

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • Took my Grandfather to the Kia dealer yesterday. He really liked my Rio5 and was ready to trade in his '93 Grand Marquis for anything that gets more then 14 MPPG. He is not so fond of the hatchback thing so he intended to purchase the Rio LX in Polar blue. The dealer had 5 Rio LX's available, two were manual but he wanted auto, the three automatics were without the power package. He wanted keyless entry and power mirrors so he told them he could wait.

    The dealer was so desperate to get him to take a car that they pushed him towards the Spectra, they were going to get him a Rio LX by Monday morning fully loaded automatic for $13,900. They told him however that if he takes the 2006 Spectra EX they will give it to him way under invoice. Invoice was $15,200, they offered it to him in Ice Blue for $14,500 and then they took another $700 off for the rebate and he got the car for $13,800. I know it's been said before on this post but Kia must do something because most people (excluding myself) would take the Spectra over the Rio when the prices are about the same. Rio must have at least a $500 rebate.

    Anyway he is happy with the Spectra so I shouldnt complain, it's a sweet car! At least he bought a Kia, I tried for months to talk him into it, he was going to go for a Honda Civiv or Nissan Sentra, so I am glad that at least he came over to Kia!
  • Another happy convert to Kia! He'll love his Spectra.

    My wife was getting compliments on our '01 Sportage 4x4. She's had two co-workers praise the Sportage and both wish they still had theirs. Both regret dumping their Sportage's.

    She loves the Sportage and it's shining brightly, too, and serving us oh so well. It's not ours until Sept.'07, though, and the worth-to-owed ratio is not even but evening out enough so that a prudent Kia dealer would be able to cut us a nice deal without overaging the over-under thing so much that we would barf at a deal for a new Rio.

    It's just those comments she's hearing!

    Must be tactful. 32/35 mpg with the '06 manual transmission Rio is a nice place to begin. ;)

    For example, the mpg for the '01 Kia Sportage 4x4 is 20 city, 25 highway. Gas is around $2.17/gal for 87 no-lead here in Pocatello, Idaho.

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • I can't get the '06 Kia Rio5 SX and the '06 Kia Rio LX idea out of my mind. Hearing that you got 32.1 mpg is great to hear.

    Today we drive south 160 miles to Salt Lake City, UT, in our '01 Kia Sportage 4x4. A clean and wonderful highway trip in our little SUV. Kia motorcars are great.

    Keep the comments coming on your '06 Rio's, boys. :D

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • b3nutb3nut Posts: 83
    Wow...she isn't even broken in! Are most of your trips in it really short? I think your car wants to go for a road trip and stretch out...usually makes for a happy car. :D

    'course I put miles on a car like they're going out of style it seems...the 3 year/36000 mile b-to-b warranty on my Escort lasted a year and a half. :P If I get the Rio5, I bet maybe I can get 2.5 years out of the 5/60K main b-to-b warranty...hehehe

    Todd in Beerbratistan, drivin' foo'
  • Well could be worse, I got 26.8 MPG this weekend doing mostly city driving, it was unusually cold here in Miami this weekend with temps in the upper 50's. I had the heat on most of the time and that was probably what reduced my MPG this weekend.

    I am still enjoying my Rio5 so much, every morning I wake up and rush off to work in anticipation of a fun morning commute. I know I've said it before but I will say it again, the Rio5 is just so much fun to drive, every day that little 1.6 litre engine surprises me more and more!

    I picked up my cousin last night and gave her a ride home from work, she thought I was driving a Mazda or Volkswagon, she was socked that Kia can make such a nice car, she used to have an '01 Rio and now drives a 2000 Sephia (that her boyfriend borrowed last night). She said this new Rio is "pimped out" (I hate that term!!) compared to the old one. I guess the metal pedals and leather steering wheel impressed her.

    I finally saw one on the road this weekend, I was up in Ft. Lauderdale and saw a Tropical Red Rio5. Also saw a black Rio LX sedan the other night. Makes you realize how nice your car looks when you see others on the road!
  • http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060213/SUB/60213063/1078&re- - fsect=

    "Hyundai dealers said the make meeting (held at the 2006 National Automobile Dealers Association convention)generally was positive. But they did complain that the redesigned Accent subcompact is overpriced.

    "The four-door is too expensive for the segment," said Scott Fink, chairman of the Hyundai dealer council. "We're trying to put some pressure on Hyundai to either reprice or heavily incentivize the car."

    The four-door Accent debuted late last year. Prices start at $12,995, including shipping. A popularly equipped Accent with an automatic transmission and air conditioning starts at $14,645.

    Hyundai executives said they would study the price concern. They plan to have an answer at the next dealer council meeting in March.

    A new three-door Accent goes on sale this spring at a base price of $11,455, including shipping. That price is more in line with competition, said Fink, owner of Hyundai of Newport Richey in Newport Richey, Fla."


    Does this story sound all too familiar???

    What have I been saying about the new Rio from Day-1???
    (See: spectraman, "Kia Rio 2006+" #174, 21 Oct 2005 1:01 pm!keywords=allin%3Amsgtext%20limit%3A.ef32c56%20spectraman )

    I hope that the nation's KIA dealers are putting the same pressure on the KIA Motors of North America management too!

    I like the Rio... I really do. But there's too many other good choices in that $14-16k range that are larger and just as nicely appointed.

    -SM
  • Yes they are. Even though I live in a big city (Houston, Texas) every where I need to go is close by. Next week she'll get her first road trip! :) I am going to New Orleans to see family and maybe Mardi Gras. It will be nice to see how she'll do on the highway. Especially the MPG.
  • but will the bigger cars available for the $13,000-$15,500 price-point get the better gas mileage the 2006 Rio5 and Rio LX sedan get? The 2006 Hyundai Accent models, too, for that matter. I'm thinking they won't.

    That is why I'm still interested in the 2006 Rio's. I have to like the size fit for us, though. That must still be determined. :D

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • "...but will the bigger cars available for the $13,000-$15,500 price-point get the better gas mileage the 2006 Rio5 and Rio LX sedan get? The 2006 Hyundai Accent models, too, for that matter. I'm thinking they won't."

    The problem is.... at the *current* price of gas, a Rio is only going to realistically save you about $241 bucks a year.

    Assumptions:

    A 25 mpg Spectra uses approx. 480 gallons of gas to travel 12k miles

    A 32 mpg Rio uses approx. 375 gallons of gas to travel 12k miles

    Spectra - 480 gals used x $2.30 gal = $1104
    Rio - 375 gals used x $2.30 gal = $ 863

    Annual Rio Savings: Approx. $241

    Savings over a 7 year average ownership lifespan: $1,687


    I think my mileage assumptions are pretty close based on real-world postings I've read online about both vehicles.

    If gas prices go back up over $3.00 a gallon, then the savings would increase dramatically for sure.

    But assuming that prices will stay somewhere *near* where they are now, I don't know if $241 a year is convincing enough for me to give up some of the niceities that are inherent in the Spectra/Spectra5's.

    Just my .02 worth!

    -SM
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    I agree with you.

    backy, "Kia Rio 2006+" #157, 9 Oct 2005 3:09 pm

    However, I noticed last night at the Chicago Auto Show that the Yaris 4-door automatic will sticker at $14k without ABS, side bags/curtains, 4-wheel discs, or power package. So the Rio is priced lower, comparably equipped, and has a better warranty. However, Kia doesn't yet have the resale value to price cars anywhere close to Toyota or Honda. (And I think the Yaris is overpriced too.)
  • then the new 2006 Kia Rio's may not be for you. Then again, with the quality gains Kia has made, this new set of 2006 Kia Rio's should be the ones that start retaining their value much better for their owners.

    I mean, the Rio LX has everything I need or want and is only $13,055, before the Owner's Loyalty and even College Grad rebate are applied. It starts out being affordable, IMHO. And I love those headlights and rounders going up the wheel wells. :D

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • b3nutb3nut Posts: 83
    not by much at first, these things take time. Now that the new Rio shares a platform with the new Accent (the previous version of which has had good reliability the past 2-3 years) things might start to change a little. But if you're like me and you buy a car, pay it off, and drive it until it is no longer cost-effective to keep driving it, resale really isn't an issue. I don't see the Korean cars having the resale of Japanese cars for a long time yet, but I'm willing to wager that the depreciation will end up being less steep the first year than many competing domestic autos.

    Time will tell, but Hyundai/Kia have a strong product now, it'll be interesting to see where they head from here. It seems they mean business...

    Todd in Beerbratistan
  • b3nutb3nut Posts: 83
    Rio5's around in Madison. Someone at my church bought one as well, saw it parked outside last Sunday. Ran into a lady with one at the gas station the other day, she said she really liked it. Looking like a couple months or so, and we'll be able to turn my old faithful ZX2 in on one.

    I do chuckle at the reveiws that say it could use more power. Heh. The Rio5 isn't sluggish. My first car at 16, a 1981 Rabbit Diesel with 52hp, was sluggish. Though efficiency of 40mpg in town and 60mpg on the highway was routinely attainable with that car. New VW diesels aren't as fuel-thrifty but they aren't as poky either. The Rabbit did well enough most of the time, but I do remember going up a steep hill on I-81 in Virginia with the car floored in 2nd gear doing 24mph...LOL! :D I had to endure many jokes from friends when driving that car, but I had the last laugh at the filling station. ;) Used to drive all over the place for $5 a week...that was fun.

    Todd in Cheesecurdistan
  • The guy in this article says that a well packages kia rio comes about to the same price as a honda civic or toyota!!! [non-permissible content removed] i live in canada and i shopped around before i bought my kia rio 2006 EX sedan and a Honda civic with about the same options was about 6000$ more and the toyota matrix was more then 7000$ with all the taxes and fees and the garranty is way better with kia.
    I never tought i would buy a non-american car but it seems this day as come(i still wouldnt buy a japanese) but with the problem i had with my pontiac in the past couple of years and the bad service and prices GM is giving these days i had to changed.
    I wanted to get the Vibe but the price difference between the Vibe and Kia Rio was about 6000$ for the same equipment and even then the rio was more.And the garantty was a big plus GM is 3 years/60000km vs Kia 5 years/100000km with my budget i had to finance over 60 month so with the vibe for the last 2 years i would still have to make payments on my car without having the garranty anymore.
    My mother as a Kia Rio 2004 she now as 50000km accept for regular maintenance she didnt put a cent yet she didnt even changed the brakes yet and the maintenance at the kia dealer is not expensive 68$/hr labour compared to the 86$/hr Pontiac dealer is charging.
    Maybe in 4-5 years my next car i will go back with an american one but not GM,unless then have a major changed in the policies.
  • My best friends sister bought a new '05 Toyota Matrix, base model a few months ago. This car had almost the same Rio5 features except there was no keyless entry or Fog lights. Also no leather wrapped steering wheel which is a feature I truly appreciate! She paid over 17K and this was a pretty fair price. I paid almost 3K less for my Rio5 (not including owner loyalty reabte) and have a car that is getting 5 MPG better then she is getting plus I have a much better warranty 9not that I ever needed to use it because Kia's cars are very well built!

    Anybody who thinks the Rio's 1.6 Litre 110 hp engine is weak must test drive it first. I drove her Matrix a few days ago because I wanted to compare and I was surprised that it seemed almost sluggish compared to my Rio5. Kia has done a fine job with this car and I am not just saying that because I am almost a ten year loyal Kia customer.
  • yeah, I would not hesitate to buy another Kia at all. I trust their engineering abilities to the max.

    The Tropical Red 2006 Kia Rio5 in 5-speed form is still at my local dealer, as well as the two LX sedans in Sapphire Blue and Silver, both 5-speeds.

    The guy from Idaho Falls that wanted the Tropical Red Rio5 bought a used Spectra instead.

    No test driving now-it's 0 degrees outside! I can wait a little. That Silver LX sedan is lookin' right to me. :D

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • Hi
    I just leased a Kia Rio 2006 over 60 months/5 years,my question is after my leased ends if i decide to buy the car can i put an extended warranty on my kia rio?? thanks
  • bamacarbamacar Posts: 749
    Rio5 is appealing, but here the article is very close to the truth. The Rio5 Manual with the power package and ABS brakes runs $15040 MSRP and is discounted to $14417. The Civic LX Manual stickers for $17060 and is discounted to $15685. The Rio5 does have the alloy wheels, but the Civic has cruise, mp3 capability, and 30 extra horsepower. Many people would gladly pay $1200 more for the Civic, and the Honda would get better mileage on the highway.

    Kia and Hyundai need to get the rebates rolling on the Rios and Accents if they want a chance to compete in volume with Honda and Toyota.
  • Thats a good point but I think after price people judge a car by looks, maybe even before price for some people. I personally love the way my Rio5 as well as Rio Sedan look. Every day I see hundreds of Civics and Corollas on the road. It is so boring already, not to mention that here in South Florida I have noticed more and more Mazda 3's on the road on a daily basis. I like to be unique and driving my Rio5 I get plenty of comments and looks from people, it is fun to know that people like the style of your car and notice it unlike the Civics and Corollas which oversaturate our roads and highways, Boring!!!
  • How come in the U.S. the honda's are so cheap here in Canada a Civic LX(auto.) starts at 22,805$ before taxes not to mention that here in quebec we got to add a 15.5% sale tax.
    My Kia rio sedan EX(auto.) cost me 17,385$ before taxes so that is a difference of 5420$ for the Civic.So when i here u write that in the states there is only a difference of about 1500$ for the civic i say WOW that's not a big difference.
    P.S. buy the way i just went on the U.S. sites of both cars and the Honda Civic LX is about 3000$ more then the Kia Rio with about the same packages so i dont know where u get the 1200$ difference.
  • bamacarbamacar Posts: 749
    See my message: Rio5 manual as we were discussing from the article with power package and ABS.

    Civic LX 4 door Manual. Here in the Atlanta, GA area using Carsdirect prices. The Civic has a greater difference between MSRP and Invoice (more room to discount).

    When the Fit becomes available that will be the real competitor for the Rio5 and the pricing will be even closer. The Kia and Hyundai rebates really will be necessary at that time not to mention more competition from the Yaris and Versa.
  • Nope, I'm not.The review of the guy's 2006 Kia Rio sedan above exemplifies what kind of job Kia is doing on their cars and minivans. They have been working very hard and I saw some of the fruitage of their labors with my 1999 Kia Sephia sedan and then a whole lot more with my 2001 Kia Sportage 4x4. Kia made the Sportage after the Korean army jeep. No kidding. It's solid, sure and steady.

    I read in a couple articles that Kia went to great lengths to fill gaps and thicken existing surfaces to the outside of the car so that road noises would be so much more minimal than before. Apparently it worked.

    Gettin' real itchy ta test drive, my friends. ;)

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • b3nutb3nut Posts: 83
    Heck, go and drive the new Rio! I think you'll find it a darn nice driving car. I was ogling the Rio5 again at the dealer yesterday and trying the CD player (I mainly ignored the radio when I test-drove the car). The stock speakers in my '00 Escort had me at Circuit City within days of buying the car, I couldn't get those speaks out fast enough. The stock speakers in the Rio5 sound pretty darn good for stock, and the CD player works well. The tweeters with the power package help. The system has decent fullness and good bass for just a quartet of 6 1/2" door speakers. I'd be happy with the stock setup for awhile, even though at some point it'll be added to (front component speakers, amplifier, and small subwoofer). The radio could stand a bit more FM sensitivity, but it gets the local Madison stations well enough.

    The double-seals on the doors are impressive, I surmise that's one of the reasons I found the Rio5 to be as quiet as it is on the road - that level of quiet on the road out of a small car was unheard of a few years ago. All it needs now is aftermarket cruise, and it's a total package. I wish Kia would offer cruise on it in the US with the steering-wheel controls like the home market has, but oh well. The only little hatch that offers it right now is the upcoming Fit, and I've voiced my dislikes with that previously. Great car, but not quite "me".

    But iluv, you need to drive that thing...you'll dig it, I bet. :)

    Todd in Cheesecurdistan
  • Try the Rio like the other guy said before going out and buying a Civic or corolla??
  • Those on Edmunds who know me know I would never buy a Honda or Toyota product. And yes, never is a long, long time, I know.

    Actually, dudes, I took a long hard look at Scion's tC and xA, but have decided that it will be 3 new Kia's in a row. I bought the '01 Sportage 4x4 just a few days after the horrible events in NYC. I had been itching to trade in for months before that.

    That's encouraging news about the Rio5's stock 4-speaker sound system. I'll probably stay with it for a long while after buying it. Although, Pocatello has a lot of car audio stores for a town of 51,000 people. Blows me away how many there are. I'll bet I could find a great deal if, as soon as I buy my '06 Kia Rio LX sedan or 2006 Kia Rio5, I start looking at what's offered. I'm not real picky, I just demand that Lonesome Dave Peverett's great voice and Rod Price's unbeatable lead and solo guitar work get amplified to an ear-numbing degree. Dave used to say "If you ain't sweating it ain't rock and roll." Well said, Dave. Very well said.

    Dudes, I have 7 straight days off from work starting tomorrow (Wednesday). What a nice opportunity to go test driving, eh? :D

    This is the right time, men. One thing is for sure, the salesman usually knows way less than I do about the Kia product at hand. I mean, when they say something non-copasetic, I sniff it out like fresh steak meat on the barbie. No doubt.

    I think the time has come to trade. I must arrange it so my wife and I go drive them together. She was the one that picked out the Pepper Red '01 Sportage 4x4! Never wonder about that talk that women influence car-buying decisions. It is so true.

    Only this one seems so plain to see. 32/35 miles per gallon on the open Western U.S. roads versus 20/25 for the tough little Sportage 4x4 SUV is a fresh place to start, eh? :)

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • b3nutb3nut Posts: 83
    I too looked hard at the xA and test-drove it. I liked the way that little shoe-looking car handled, though the center-mounted speedo would take some getting used to. I still say...that's just wrong! :D But my wife totally nixed that idea! Hehehe...fortunately, she liked the looks of the Rio5, so Rio5 it is. :) Actually, I do rather like the looks of the Rio5 better than the xA or Fit...I'll just have to make DARN SURE I change that timing belt at 60K. Russ Darrow Kia (closest to me) wants $500 and change for that job...steep if you ask me, Edmunds says it should be cheaper. Still, it's less than half of what it cost me to replace it on my ZX2. And over 60,000 miles, that works out to $.0083 per mile, guess that isn't too bad. ;)

    Todd in Cheesecurdistan
  • My KIA dealer in Michigan quoted me $550 *without* a new waterpump on a Spectra 2.0L. So... your dealer's in the ballpark as far as my experience goes.

    Btw, to add a new waterpump into the repair, it will be another $230 bucks.

    -SM
  • I think you're being a bit low on your MPG estimate for your area. Unless you're doing mountain climbing (obviously a possibility in your locale)you should do much better on the highway. While my daily routine is still getting me 25 to 27 MPG (and I am NOT happy with this) my "pure" highway cruises at 70 to 80 mph are still netting a cool 44 MPG. Now that I'm flipping ecstatic over!

    Oh, yea, for those who haven't read too far back in the threads...2006 Rio sedan, automatic, 3500 miles on it.
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