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  • spend Spectra-size money on it. The Spectra is more in the $14,000-$15,000 range. The 2006 Kia Rio LX sedan I'm eyeing now at my local dealer is only $13,055. Subtract the $400 college grad rebate I can get (if I finance with Kia Finance that is)and I could get this nice little sedan equipped just right for only $12,655.

    They have the '06 Rio5 in Tropical Red and 5-speeds for $14,110 and they have two sedans with the 5-speed tranny, one in Sapphire Blue color and one in Silver, both selling for $13,055. I just have a feeling I could wriggle one for a titch less than $12,655, and $12,655 is a great deal, IMHO. The weird thing is is they advertise the Silver one on their website but I don't see it on their lot. And I pull into their lot several times a week (when the salespeople aren't there)to look at my future car...I...I mean their nice South Korean-built motorcars.

    I'm leanin' toward the '06 Rio LX in Sapphire Blue. It will go well with our newly-acquired house, which has blue as one of it's exterior colors. Sound like a good reason to get a Sapphire Blue baby to park out front? :D

    I really like the sedan bodystyle better, so it's a good fit. I will move in a few weeks on it, we're still moving things in and, well, you know how that goes. My pool table gets assembled Tuesday morning. I can't wait to shoot pool in my own house. Whoo-hoooooo! :D Who wants to come over to shoot pool with me?

    I was gonna say that the Silver Rio LX would be cool, too, as I like the contrast between the Silver paint and those black bodyside mouldings Kia is stamping on these new world order Rio's. ;)

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  • I just popped back over here to Edmunds after visiting the Kia website and they are offering current Kia owners $500 owner loyalty rebates on new '06 Kia Rio's. Combine that rebate with the new college grad rebate and my 2006 Kia Rio LX sedan in Sapphire Blue and 5-speeds will cost me a whopping $12,155!

    That is if I act between February 4th and March 28th. Perfect! I can't wait to go get it now!

    Y'all know I'll keep you informed each step of the way!

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  • that might be kind of difficult to find a 2006 Kia Rio5 for $12,000. I just can't believe that I can get my 2006 Kia Rio LX sedan in Sapphire Blue and 5-speeds for $12,155 with the two rebates I am eligible for. Outstanding car for an outstanding price, my friends. Just think of all of the airbags Kia has built into these cars!

    Outstanding car maker for outstanding car buyers!

    Whoo-hoo! The pool table will be put together Tuesday morning, too! Anybody living near Pocatello, ID, that wants to come over and help me inaugurate my new pool table? We've been in several houses throughout the years but none have had room for a pool table until now. :D

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  • Anyone have any good info, or links for the Rio Hybrid that Edmunds has coming out in the Fall of 2006? It appears with the limited info that I have seen so far it will be a 1.4L engine, but that is about it. I assume this will be much cheaper then the Honda/Toyota models. They also have Hyundai coming out with a hybrid.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    This is the best article I've seen on the upcoming Rio/Accent hybrid:

    http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/12/hyundai_unveils.php
  • Thanks Chuck. I wonder if either will be at the car show here in February. Hopefully they are, and they have more info on them.
  • Autobytel 2006 Most Improved Car of the Year Award.

    Take that for what it's worth, but it really can't be viewed as a negative thing, if you're gonna buy a 2006 Kia Rio, right? That's the goodness of it, Kia is incorporating engineering niceties to their smallest cars as well, something GM and even Chrysler are learning too late in the game for themselves.

    The Rio has all sorts of sound dampening equipment and a roll bar all around the passenger cabin, and they have improved the way they tie the Rio together, which really improves on the rattling and shaking inside the cabin. That is one of the things that has turned me off to the Scion brand of cars. So many people are fed up with their Scion's rattling noises coming from the back of the tC, for example. They are truly turning their tC into a rig, because they are rigging up their own sound dampening systems. Don't believe me? Well, just go over to the Scion tC and Scion problems and solutions threads here on Edmunds to see what I'm talking about.

    Scion didn't bother to completely finish their cars for consumers. Kia does care about their small car consumers and has shown that by doing what I'm talking about above. Dampening out noises from the undercarriage.

    The 2006 Kia Rio also employs state-of-the-art engine technology, intalling a 1.6L, inline 4 cylinder DOHC continuously variable valve timing motor in the 2006 Rio. Suffice to say that this technology will enable those that purchase 2006 Rio's to achieve better gas mileage and throw out less emissions into the air at the same time.

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  • I do appreciate it. It only made me want to make sure and test drive the 2006 Tropical Red Kia Rio5 at my local dealer even more. At $14,195 (which is all I will pay, BTW, the car is loaded at that price, loaded enough with everything I will need, that is)I think it's a bargain.

    You see, Kia is expecting us to look into their engineering package on this rig to the point of understanding all that they've included at the value price. I think it's an absolute bargain at that price. I like the two-color cloth interior you've described, but that is not enough to sway me to the Rio5. It will defintely take a test drive to see which one I want the best. Whichever one I get it must have the 5-speed tranny, and there is ample stock locally in 5-speeds waiting for me there.

    I will deduct $500 Owner Loyalty discount and a $400 recent college grad discount, but only if I finance with Kia Finance.

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • Here's the January sales numbers from KIA.com:

    Rio 2006: 1,993 2005: 2,261

    It looks like the Rio generated a 12% drop in sales compared to a year ago.

    Based on the amount of inventory at my dealer's lot, there's plenty of Rio's available now, sooooo........

    Why the sales drop when there's a nice new model available. Hmmmmmmmm?

    (Spinning roulette wheel sound fades in)

    "Put my money down on the orange Rio5 please!"

    "C'mon $11-12k....... c'mon $11-12k!"

    :-)

    -SM
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    Well, you hit it on the head. They are nice little cars, but need a rebate infusion so they compare better price-wise with larger cars like the Spectra and Elantra. With the Fit, Yaris, and Versa coming in the next few months the picture won't get better for the Rio at its current price point. Also, the old Rio wasn't exactly known as a great car, so maybe not enough people know about the all-new Rio/Rio5.
  • the Internet and places like Edmunds.com to find out volumes about new small car offerings.

    I still want an '06 Rio and the same four are still available at Robert Allen Kia in Pocatello. One, a black '06 LX, is an automatic tranny so it's immediately disqualified from further contention. :D

    I've read so many reviews from so many reviewers(professional or owner reviews) on the new Rio's that I know what to expect ahead of time with the car. A test drive still could render the Rio too small for my wife and I though. The Pomeranians will do fine with the back seat, I know. It sounds like all frames of body types are getting into and out of the new Rio's just fine, though, with decent legroom and hip and shoulder room.

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  • please give more of your impressions about your Rio5!

    And congratulations! I have my eye on either a 2006 Rio5 in Tropical Red and 5-speeds or a Silver 2006 Rio LX sedan in 5-speeds or a Sapphire Blue 2006 Rio LX sedan in 5-speeds. Is yours a 5-speed or automatic?

    Quieter than a Kia Optima inside? I did read that Kia put gobs of sound-deadening goo(that hardens, of course! ;) )so road noises would be drastically reduced.

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  • I had the new Spectra, 2004 and a half! It was great, kept it for almost two years, put 36K miles on it and got $7,200 trade in. Not bad considering I put a lot of miles on it. The leg space is the same in the Rio5 and as I mentioned before, at 6'3 I feel very comfortable behind the wheel. I was afraid that a 1.6L engine would feel like an old three cylinder Geo but it is just as lively as the Spectra, I guess the lightweight helps keep this car peppy and fun to drive. Handling is amazing, absorbs bumps rather well!

    The SX has great interior looks with the metal trim and metal pedals. The leather wrapped steering wheel is so comfortable to hold. And yes the car is not as noisy as my brothers 2003 Optima! Surprising but true!

    I drove my sister in laws Scion XA two weeks ago when the Spectra was being used by my wife for the day, the Scion XA is so simplistic, plain and noisy, it cant even compare to the Rio5. Much less interior space as well. Add in all the safety features and awesome warranty and you can't beat this car. By the way, gas mileage after my first refill 31.8 MPG. Not bad at all. My Spectra was at a steady 25 MPG, my old Rio (2001) was getting roughly 26 MPG so this is a vast improvement!

    I highly recommend this car, I might buy another for my wife as a graduation present, mine is white and I know she wants Saphire Blue or Sunset Orange.
  • oops, sorry forgot to mention that its automatic, too much traffic in Miami for stick!

    BTW, stereo system in the SX is fantastic, just as good as in the Spectra EX.

    Cant think of any complaints but if I do I will post them!
  • wow, your comments are helping me to solidify my surety of getting either a 2006 Kia Rio LX or a Kia Rio5. The Rio5 is sounding pretty good, and I like the color of the one at the lot for sale here in town. It is a color called Tropical Red, and fits the little hatchwagon well.

    OTOH, there is also a Sapphire Blue Rio LX sedan and a Silver Rio LX sedan at their lot for sale. The Silver looks sharp on the small sedan with those large black mouldings Kia stamps onto the sides of '06 Rio's. I wasn't sure I liked those large mouldings at first but now they've kind of grown on me. How about you, riomike, do you like those black side door mouldings Kia is putting on the '06 Rio's? Now, I think I would be disappointed if they weren't there! :D

    All three of the '06 Rio finalists are 5-speed manuals, BTW. Wouldn't have it any other way!

    I may go test driving later this week, maybe Thursday.

    Oh, riomike, about the SX's stereo. Does it play out the high notes well? Even my '01 Sportage 4x4 had 6 speakers factory-installed in it, which includes tweeters installed on the corners of the dash. The Sportage's stereo rocks nicely. Does the 2006 Kia Rio5 SX's stereo reproduce the screechy high notes pretty well? I mean, would the late Rod Price's (Foghat) screechy lead and slide guitar solo's resonate great in the cabin, or would I need to install a completely new set of speakers? I know, everyone's tastes for sound vary a tad, but what do you think? :D

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  • I love those black moldings even though the first time I saw them I thought they were nasty. Now they just seem like an integral component!

    The speaker system is great, listened to Metallica, Genesis and Depeche Mode. These three groups all have differing sounds but sounded just fine in the Rio5!

    One huge difference between the Rio5 and Sedan is that the hatch has 15" tires while the sedan uses 14". The extra inch makes a huge difference in handling and overall ride quality.

    Tropical red is cool I almost wanted that color but opted for the more conservative white. In the hot Florida sun white is a pleasure!
  • I guess I knew that white was a color option for the Rio5 SX but still had to do a double-think when you said you had a white Rio5 for 2006, riomike!

    Yeah, I have read that comment from many a reviewer, that the 15" tires the Rio5 offers make for much better handling and ride quality. That and the leather-wrapped steering wheel, metal pedals and the other metal accents for design added only with the Rio5 SX have me steering towards the Rio5 SX again.

    We're finally losing our snow here in eastern Idaho so
    test driving will be much more productive later this week!

    Be sure and add any more comments about your Rio5 SX as they pop into your head, riomike. Enjoy that little bugger-the more I see this new Rio from Kia the more I dig it. :shades:

    Some Drive-By Truckers would sound good in there, too! Hey, they'd sound good right now in the house, for that matter! Rock on!

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  • riomike! I'm soaking it all up!

    I am still planning on test-driving Rio5's and Rio LX's for 2006 in 5-speed form later this week. :D

    In contrast to warm Miami, we experienced a high of 39 degrees today in my home city of Pocatello, ID. Yes, it is considered a city! ;)

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  • I might have mentioned earlier that I got my Rio5 at invoice ($14,800) minus owner loyalty not bad, however I have a friend who bought the Rio5 in silver this week fully loaded at $14,500. I guess I should have argued more but I couldnt do much because my trade in Spectra had high mileage for a 2004. I did pay the difference in cash but I thought I negotiated a great deal and now my buddy Dave beats my deal by $300.

    I was told the reason why not so many Rio5's are available is because there was a strike in Korea a month or two ago and production lines were at a stand still. Supposedly huge shiploads are on their way from Korea. hope they come in soon because my grandfather is on a waiting list at one of our many local Kia dealers for a Rio5 in Saphire Blue. I wanted that color but did not want to wait the three weeks (as per Kia corporate HQ) but anyway I am happy with white, it looks classy, I just need to wash it often!
  • b3nutb3nut Posts: 83
    Because Russ Darrow Kia in Madison WI has a bunch of Rio5's in stock. They have a couple loaded Sapphire Blue ones on the lot. The model doesn't seem to move as fast as the Sportages though, Madisonians seem to still be in SUV mode, odd for a liberal city which should have more of a "thing" for puppycars than it has.

    The one I drove was black...not a bad color, but I love that blue...it's close to what my current Escort ZX2 is. My wife's Neon is that color, too...wonder if she'll pick on me for not getting a different color...what can I say, I just love a metallic blue. :) The tropical red is pretty sharp, and that silver is rather classy, and white almost always looks good on a car. Not sure I can get into that dark orange they offer on that car though...

    I'm still shopping around, but I haven't seen another car that has the mix of affordability, equipment, and fuel economy that the Rio5 has. Well, there's the Scion xA, which is a good car, but it's too cramped (and I can't warm up to that absurd center-mounted speedo and lack of a coolant temp guage, I need guages, I'm a geek! :P ) Chevy Aveo...erk. No 5-door Accent, 3-door won't quite work for me. 5-door Focus...superb road manners, but gas mileage out of line with that class of car. My 6-year-old Escort ZX2 is horribly out of tune with 157K on the clock and holes in the PCV breather and a busted PCV valve, and it still runs rings around the Focus's MPG reports. When it was in tune I could hiit 40mpg on the highway...why has Ford gotten worse when technology's supposed to be advancing?

    Hello Kia.

    Todd in Beerbratistan
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    I'm still shopping around, but I haven't seen another car that has the mix of affordability, equipment, and fuel economy that the Rio5 has.

    If you can wait a month or two, the Fit may be a good fit for you in terms of affordability/equipment (about $13.5k with all the safety equipment, power package, and stereo), fuel economy (33/38), and even better versatility than the Rio. Until then, the Rio5 stands out although the 5-speed Elantra 5-door will give it a run in fuel economy and exceed it in comfort, room, and equipment for about the same money.
  • b3nutb3nut Posts: 83
    It's somewhat cute, has some handy features, and it's a Honda. Downside is that sharply-sloped nose, I'm afraid it'll have the same can't-see-the-nose-at-all problem my father-in-law's '06 Civic coupe has. He's used to it, I found it somewhat creepy to drive (only with traffic, on open road the car is simply splendid), and was uncomfortable parking it in a standard space opposite another car. Also, the Fit doesn't have a proper standard opening for the stereo. My current ZX2 has a non-standard goofball radio, and the adapter kits that attempt to allow installation of a standard stereo are very crude and ugly. Rio5? Nice double-DIN opening, you can install almost any radio you like. I want the ability to easily replace the factory stereo when it dies (or if I get the upgrade bug, which I'm known to do with audio). The Fit's a great little car, but I'm having trouble warming up to the overall look of it. And there's no coolant temp guage, just idiot lights. I've had coolant temp guages come in handy more than once.

    The Elantras are nice vehicles, I took a nice well-varied test drive in an '06 GT the other day. Very smooth on the highway, though I found the handling slightly detatched, it's not as tight or immediate as the Rio's feel. The steering just felt a bit off to me, the response didn't feel right. The automatic shifts smoothly though, didn't try a 5-speed as my next car needs to be an automatic. The interior's a bit dated-looking, but not bad. I understand it's being replaced this fall, which can mean great deals, OTOH in its current trim I find the Elantra a bit bland and nondescript. Good car though, reminds me of 80's Japanese hatches.

    But the Fit will sell well, it's a great "fit" (hehe) for a lot of users.

    I'm not making the move until around April when we get the ducks in a row, so to speak...but so far I really like that dang Rio5...it's just got a nice design to it that I like.

    Todd in Cheesecurdistan
  • I saw the Fit at the New York auto show, looked almost silly. Rio5 has sort of a muscular look to it, fit looks tiny like a Scion XA (which I test drove and hated, couldnt fit inside). I think the Toyota Yaris and the fit will both do well based on their names but I'll take my Rio5 over them anyday! I think I would even take my fathers Suzuki Areo SX over those cars.

    I am not saying that Kia is better then those companies but I believe that Kia offers better features for your money and of course a better warranty than those companies. Not to mention that in my 8 years of owning 5 kias (1998 Sportage, 2001 Rio, 2002 Spectra, 2004.5 Spectra and 2006 Rio5) I have never had a mechanical problem. Only problems I had were:
    1998 Sportage, power window front passenger side stopped working after 2 years, fixed within 2 hours at dealer, covered by warranty!
    2002 Spectra, After 1 year belt was making noise, replaced under warranty!

    Only 2 minor and resolved issues in over 8 years of kia ownership. Certainly cant complain, and they have a loyal customer for life!!
  • there are others like me! If you look back here on Edmunds through the years you'll find I'm their most loyal Edmunds customer. backy will attest to that as would several other Edmunds regulars.

    I too love the value quotient for price paid with Kia products. Sounds like I'm preaching to the choir with you, so I won't gush on too much. You've already bought a number of Kia's already!

    Yep, any fixes on my '99 Sephia were recalls or warranty fixes and the same for my '01 Sportage 4x4. The Sportage 4X4 needed two power windows(the back ones)fixed. Something about the regulator failing. All under warranty. The '01 Sportage 4x4's alternator went out on me late in '04 though at around the 88,000 mile mark. One Edmunds regular told me that they thought that was too soon for the alternator to go out. I disagree though the part was not cheap. The mechanic didn't charge me for towing and I feel I was treated fairly by him in that deal. I didn't go to a Kia dealer for that one because planning could not be arranged-it was a surprise disabling part failure-something that rarely happens with a Kia product I've had.

    I too love the 2006 Kia Rio5 and I'm just about to go and test drive. The Sapphire Blue '06 Rio at my dealer is a LX. The Rio5 is Tropical Red. I think it goes well with the car and if I fall in love with those metal pedals, aluminum touches and leather wrapped steering wheel and shifter accents I may come away with the Rio5. The LX's are both 5-speeds(as is the Rio5)and they are SIlver and Sapphire Blue in color. All three would look wonderful in my driveway.

    I can get the $400 College Grad discount and the $500 Owner Loyalty discount but I read that that is only if I finance through Kia Motors Financing, and I'm not sure that I will. I'm off work 'till Wednesday so I've got time to browse, drive and work a deal out.

    Whoo-hoo! :)

    BTW-I agree, the Rio5 especially has a "muscular, sporty" stance to it that has really grown on me. I think Americans will warm to the new '06 Rio as they see them more on the road.

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  • b3nutb3nut Posts: 83
    That's my impression too. I think the Yaris is more attractive than the xA or Fit, but why they keep putting the speedo in the middle of the dash I'll never figure out...it's just wrong! :D The xA's wheelbase is the shortest of any production car, and while I can get comfortable in the front once I get the seat positioned I can't get into the back seat behind me. I can get into the back of the Rio5 with the seat set where I like it (I make sure that anyone forced to ride behind my driver's seat can do so without resembling a sardine, hehehe!)

    I do wish the center armrest was more substantial, but it's good enough...my ZX2 lacks that amenity altogether (never bought the optional one) so I'm gaining a feature.

    I spent some time just walking around the Rio5 yesterday, taking in its lines. Dang that's a sharp little car, and it grows on you even after it first grabs your attention. It's most likely that it's the one that will follow me home after bidding a tearful adieu (hehe) to my ZX2, which has been an enjoyable car to own. I did have the timing belt break at 132K, but that's because I failed to change the thing at 120K like I was supposed to. At least the Zetec isn't an interference engine... :surprise:

    Todd in Beerbratistan
  • at least you admit it was because you failed to have it changed at 120,000 miles...instead of blaming Ford for it breaking like some people would do. :D

    I agree about the Rio5's lines, but I also include the Rio sedan in there as well. I like both body styles enough that I still don't know which one I want, it will take a test drive of them both to tell me.

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  • b3nutb3nut Posts: 83
    ...is a sharp looker too. I'm going for the hatch because I want the cargo space. The sedan has an impressive trunk for the size of the vehicle, too...doesn't look like there'd be much trunk space just looking at the car, but then you open the trunk...dang.

    Yes, I hasten to add that the belt failure was my fault when talking about the one major repair my ZX2 has had. The only other failure I've experienced in the car was the headlight switch dying at 2:00AM on the way home from a bar gig. I had to hold the flash-to-pass function in all the way home, about an hour's drive. I blamed my former employer, Japanese switch supplier Tokai Rika, for the failure of their switch. :D I'm 99% sure that's where the LCS (lever combination switch) came from, it's common to Mazda too and TR is a huge supplier to Mazda as well as Ford, GM, Toyota (100%), and Chrysler, among others. As a sidebar, if you have an American-made Toyota, most if not nearly all of the switches in your car (depending on model) were made at the Tokai Rika plant in Battle Creek, Michigan. Worked there for 10 years...lots of really neat products come out of there, including replacement Lexus keys.

    (TR actually makes fine switches, wouldn't lead that segment of the industry if they didn't, but a dud's going to make it out at some point hehehehe! I tried not to ever pass any, but... ;)

    Todd in Beerbratistan
  • I did quite a few miles with the AC on the last two days. About 60% city driving. Tank was just below half, I filled up at BP and did the calculation on my cell phone: 27.2 MPG, not bad at all, thats mostly city evening driving with lights (including fog lights) and AC on. I am satisfied with the latest results.

    I agree that it's a tough choice between the Sedan and Rio5. I had first considered going for the Sedan LX, but once I saw those metal pedals and leather wrapped steering wheel it was love at first sight with my hatch!

    BTW, every day I become more and more impressed with the peppy engine on the Rio. I have no problems passing anybody on the interstate or on my block. I keep expecting for something to disappoint me with this car but I just keep on getting more and more attached to this car every day.

    My father came down from New York this morning, I let him drive the car from the airport and he was impressed. he drives a Toyota Corolla in NY, he said the Rio feels more powerful, he was shocked when I told him it has a 1.6 litre, 110 hp engine. I think he should trade in his 2003 Corolla for a 2006 Rio5 in Saphire Blue or Sunset Orange, I will convert him over to Kiaism (I should coin that term!) before he heads back next week!
  • Kiaism is firmly entrenched in this padre already!

    I sure am liking your comments on the Rio engine, it sounds more than capable.

    If I bought one I think I'd be the first one in Pocatello, ID, to have one. I have followed the 2006 Kia Rio shipment story from Day One at Robert Allen Kia in Pocatello and they've had a '06 Rio on their lot since, oh, November probably, and the first one was that Black Rio LX with an automatic transmission. The next three Rio's in came with manual transmissions, just what I needed! :P

    But they've sold nary a '06 Kia Rio. We're 160 miles north of Salt Lake City and 45 miles to the north lies Idaho Falls, the next city of any size near Pocatello. I don't think there's a Kia dealer there. Boise, Idaho surely has at least one Kia dealer but is 200-odd miles west of here. So, I mean, if I snag one soon here I'll be the first Pocatellan to drive one. I'll be attracting some stares!

    riomike, does your '06 Kia Rio5 SX get stares? :) I'll confidently say that it does definitely get stares there in Miami.

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  • Yes I get plenty of stares here, I was driving around South Beach this evening and I parked at a meter on Ocean drive, I had to piss so badly and I know a hotel where just about anybody could walk in and use the restroom, beats trying to find a bush! The spot was right across the street from a cafe where people were seated outside, I felt many eyes checking out my ride. I got my windows tinted the other day one level over the legal limit. I think the dark tinting matches the black side moldings very nicely!

    My neighbor who parks right next to me at our condo parking lot told me that he thinks my Rio5 is way cooler then his Chevy Aveo, and much sportier looking too. I had to agree with him of course.

    My wife claims that her friends who saw me drop her off at work the other day were very impressed by the car and were surprised to hear it is a Rio! i really think that Kia needs to advertise the Rio a bit. I see commercials for the Sportage and the Sedona all the time, I remember when the 2004.5 Spectra came out a couple of years ago Kia ran plenty of commercials. I guess the best advertising is when new Rio owners drive around town and people discover the all new Rio is one sweet looking ride.

    I remember when I had my '01 Rio, for many months I didnt see even 1 on the road, by 2002 I started seeing some, now a day doesnt go by that I dont see at least 10 Rios ('01-'05). In fact on any given day I see about 40-50 kias on the road.
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