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Honda Civic Sedan 2006

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  • Sorry, we kinda finalize the deal over the phone. At first, she quoted me online at $17,230, not including taxes and tags, but I decline the offer, days later, she called me to check up if I'm still interested. I again decline. Then she called back days later and ask what I was willing to spend since I told her before that I had a limited budget. Then days later, she called again, saying that she spoke with the manager and was willing to sell AROUND $16,800. She never mentioned sell it AT $16,800, but AROUND $16,800. But I told her it better be only a few hundred bucks around $16,800 otherwise I would walk. I figure if I can pay 17k(OTD) or under, it would still be a good deal for me, since a 06 Corolla S would cost be around $17,500 too. Mind as well go with a next gen Honda Civic then a old gen Corolla S.

    Hope this help
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    That's fine, as long as they stick to their promise after you walk in the door. But have you ever heard of "bait and switch"? Happens all the time. You walk in, love the car, gotta have it, and they say, "Oh, I didn't mention there is a $595 mandatory dealer prep fee" or whatever. Easy to say you will walk when you are on the phone. Stay strong when you are in the dealership.

    Also if the deal really is legit she should have no problem sending you an email with the exact price and other terms.
  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    drexelnet: Get the price she quoted you in writing, ie: e-mail!! Call her up 1st thing tomorrow morning or tonight (they 're usually there late) and ask her to send you an e-mail with her final and best offer. Do it now. Don't delay. If you get no reply back in 20-30min. Call her up and demand she send you an e-mail with the breakdown totalling $16,800.

    Are you sure she 's not trying to sell you a left over 2005? Make sure she 's talking about an '06 because I 'm getting suspecious since you 've been dealing with this lady for a couple of weeks now. Noone had any '06 models 2 weeks ago in the US. Did she tell you she has the color you want, etc. available in the lot? "Around $16,800" could mean hundreds more. What is invoice on the LX sedan auto? What is the sales tax rate where you live? Don't repeat that to her again "a few hundreds within $16.8K is ok by me.." Don't ever say that to a salesperson. Say "ok you got a deal, $16.8K but not a penny more, now send it to me in an e-mail". It's always better to deal in e-mail and so you have the price in writing. Print it out and take it with you when you go see her. If you don't have it in writing, they could produce any price they want and come up with any story they like when you get there. They did it to my dad 2yrs ago. The Subaru salesman told my dad over the phone he 'd give him the car for invoice and when he got there, they wanted invoice but that included the $1,000 dealer incentive. BULL. A promise is a promise. We started walking out and the GM came out in the parking lot and apologized and asked us to come back in and he 'd go over the figures. We got the Subaru Impreza Wagon 2.5L AWD at $1 over invoice minus $1K dealer incentive (which the manufacturers give to the dealers so they can sell the cars faster). So it came out $999 under invoice (plus tax of course).
    I guarantee you this lady is going to mess with you. They always do when they use the word "around" so much..
  • Here's the autoweek article...

    2006 Honda Civic
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    "customer can get any parts, accessories, or extended warranties for this car at dealer cost"..

    This is garbage. Of course, they will sign it since they will never tell you what their true costs is. They will make up a price and you have no choice but to believe it.
  • sr45sr45 Posts: 144
    That's an interesting price and story... My internet dealer stated that he would only go $ 200 off MSRP on a 06 EX sedan with NAV and Automatic. Argued with him about fools buying the darn thing at MSRP, and he stated those that do are not fools, but got a good deal on a good vehicle. Reminded him that he just reduced the price down $ 200 dollars, and those that purchased MSRP just lost $200, and I know the prices will go down further. And yes, they are fools for purchasing a econo car for MSRP. He did not know what to say, and I told him to give my a call someday when the prices are down even further.

    If your purchase is sound, than you got a fair deal and I and hope others will just walk out of the dealership until they start reducing it further.. Never know, it could go down $500 or more in a few weeks. Just hoping they will....
  • Glad you enjoyed my review. I'm not really sure what you mean by "if your purchase is sound". My dealer is Bob Barbour Honda in Greenville, NC and they have always been pleasant to deal with and agressive on pricing. On my past two hondas and my BMW M Roadster where I had the "parts" clause in my bill of sale, I simply asked them for the invoice and they made me a copy. I'm not really sure how they could change the invoice amount but they've never given me a hard time and it's saved me money.
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    Well, as long as you were satisfied with the total price for everything at the end, it doesn't matter, but it is trivially easy for them to make bogus invoice numbers and pad the cost of any installation.
  • mldj98mldj98 Posts: 378
    drexelnet,

    If you are paying cash the only things you should be signing are the purchase agreement....which has the price breakdown of the car and it also lists all of the other charges...i.e. tax, tag, dealer fee, doc fee...etc...plus you will have to sign another paper that's states that you do not want any extra's like paint sealant, fabric protection, extended warranty, and any possible maintenance program where you pay for your routine maintenance ahead of time...that should be it...no credit checks....nothing like that is needed...not sure if your paying actual cash, personal check, bank check, or whatever...but they do reserve the right to make sure your check clears before letting you drive off the lot...if you don't want to wait they will make you fill out a credit app and set up financing just in case your check bounces....either way they are going to protect their interest...

    Now the price of the car...I hate to say it...but based on my researched there is no way you are going to get an 06 Civic LX for 16,800 out the door...the numbers just do not add up....even if they sold the car to you at invoice...by the time you add in tax, tags, and any dealer fees you are going to be way over 16,800...as somebody mentioned earlier...they may be trying to sell you an 05 and even then the numbers seem a little tight but doable...
    I agree with the other post...get them to breakdown the price including all fees and have them send it to you....I think that they may burst your bubble....
    But nonetheless good luck and let us know...I am curious to see how it turn out!
    Good luck!
  • obie2obie2 Posts: 20
    I agree. Civics are simply over priced at MSRP. I had a salesman call me today because I had test driven a vehicle at his dealership in L A area. I informed him that I wouldn't pay MSRP for a Civic, and told him to call back when prices drop. He "informed" me that prices would never drop! I said OK, see you later then. He said "how much are you willing to pay?" I replyed" didn't you just say they would never go down in price" . He said "just give me a simple answer, how much will you pay? I said $1000 under MSRP. He said when can you be here? Me: 10:00am tomorrow. Salesman: OK. 5 minutes later my phone rang. It was the salesman. Matt, I presented your "offer" to the sales manager and it is not possible to sell for under MSRP. Me: call me when prices drop.(see original coversation above!) Him:You have to be flexible. Make an offer. Me: YOU JUST SAID....never mind, good bye!.... Click
  • playplay Posts: 38
    The stick hasn't gotten worse but the automatic has gotten better. You're all looking at this backwards. Turn around...

    Hey, don't be a wise guy! :)

    What does seem odd to me is the fairly sudden change in MPG's. I would like to see absolute values at a steady state 60, 70, or 80. Let's be clear, once a car is going at hwy speeds and is in it's final gear be tha t4th, 5th, or 6th, it really is just a question of the gearing when comparing auto vs manual in the same car and other things being equal, nothing more.

    Most of the mileage in my 130 mile daily commute is at hwy speeds which are 79-80 here in So. AZ. So that final gear ratio is important. (you should know that from cycling. Yeah the efficiency of the cyclist matters, but imagine the straightaways in low gear). I bought my first automatic (after 39 years of driving) with my 04 TSX but I miss the involvement I had with shifting and gliding and anticipating lights etc. Driving an auto has reminded me of the steady state of some stoners I know, but it is hard to justify buying a manual when you know you are going to be all abuzz at hwy speeds.
  • sr45sr45 Posts: 144
    watchdoc2003....What I meant by that statement ( if your purchase is sound ) is if and when you get the 06 vehicle in hand, and at that price, than its a good purchase, but as the poster below you stated the price does not seem right for the 06 model, but the 05 maybe. Get back to us on this will ya ? Thanks
  • evpedevped Posts: 39
    Could you comment on the shift action of the manual again. I've heard various opinions on it. Thanks.
  • Ummm, I'm not sure where the confusion started but I bought it two days ago. Here's pics of my car along with the window sticker, invoice, and my purchase invoice for any doubters. If you can't see the pics well enough, I'll personally email you the full 5meg digital photo. Also, before you say, "They must have killed him on the trade". Look it up yourself. It was a Green 2003 Oldsmobile Bravada AWD with 50k in "clean" condition. It was due for a complete service and needed a set of tires. They allowed me private party value from edmunds. kbb values it even lower.

    I will be adding photos today and if anyone wants a specific shot, please email me and I'll take it for you.

    2006 Civic photos
  • I describe the shift action as slightly notchy but doesn't require a lot of effort. The clutch is very light IMO. The 2-3 shift will be easy to miss. The 1-2 shift feels rewarding and sporty. To drive the car aggresively you will have to stay in the revs to keep the I-VTEC activated. It's something like driving a turbo car that you need to keep spooled up.

    I'd like to comment on the new key. No more key fob remotes. The keyless entry is inside the key now. I like it.

    Also, the new wipers are cool. They are large and pivot towards the sides of the car instead of in the middle of the car. I'm sure there is some engineering behind this as a way to improve wiper action but it isn't mentioned in the brochure.

    Speaking of the brochure, the centerfold of the brochure is a spread just on safety features. The list reads like a car you'd see from Volvo. I was very surprised to see so many safety features I wasn't aware of.
  • You're right. today when i went there, I got the turnaround. Another saleperson showed up instead of the internet consultant that I spoke with over the phone and online. He said that everything was sold out because the inventories that were priced around 16.8K were are gone because I came a day late. They quoted me $18,906 for the 06 Civic LX auto sedan. Then lower the price to $18,729.20 if I bought it today. And the car was a demo car, which already had 40mi. They claim that they only had 1 LX auto and 1 LX manual and 1 EX auto and manual and that all over the tristate area, there were only 4 Civic per lot. I can't believe that, that's a bunch of crap. My worst experience ever. And where I got to the dealership, all the saleperson were paying football.
  • Very nice car!
  • playplay Posts: 38
    You're right. today when i went there, I got the turnaround. Another saleperson showed up instead of the internet consultant that I spoke with over the phone and online. He said that everything was sold out because the inventories that were priced around 16.8K were are gone because I came a day late. They quoted me $18,906 for the 06 Civic LX auto sedan. Then lower the price to $18,729.20 if I bought it today. And the car was a demo car, which already had 40mi. They claim that they only had 1 LX auto and 1 LX manual and 1 EX auto and manual and that all over the tristate area, there were only 4 Civic per lot. I can't believe that, that's a bunch of crap. My worst experience ever. And where I got to the dealership, all the saleperson were paying football.

    At least you did the right thing. You turned around and walked out. A couple of months of good production numbers will take care of this shortage, if there is one, and there will be plenty to talk about.
  • playplay Posts: 38
    Below is the link to an article here on Edounds.com about comments from the head of Nissan. These are the sorts of things you say when you have made a terrible miscalculation on where the auto business is going. They could have been releasing a state of the art vehicle, such as the new Civic Hybrid, and instead are years behind.

    I think its particularly ironic where he says that Hybrids are a "terrible business prospect". They surely are for him because they won't have their first one until next year, and they have to license the technology from Toyota to produce it, because Nissan has none of their own.

    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=107358
  • I would like to revise my earlier shift review. At higher RPM's the notchiness disappears. Now that I'm willing to rev the engine more, the car shifts much more directly and smoothly. I think I was simply babying the car since it was my first few 100 miles and I'm getting used to it. I clearly shifts very well. I'm really amazed at the handling of this car. Based on this chasis, the Si should be a AutoX killer.
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