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Honda Civic Sedan 2006

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  • Exactly. I am considering the choice between '05 Accord LX and 06' Civic LX. Just received an email from a dealer saying that he can sell me a '05 Accord LX automatic for 18,200 + TTL. But, man, I just love '06 Civic and the fuel efficiency looks so good. I guess if I buy the Accord now, I will be looking at other's Civic all the time. :)
  • sr45sr45 Posts: 144
    what dealer told you $200 over invoice for a '06 EX (what town too)? anyone had any inquiries around Chicago on an '06 civic? if so let me know, thanks

    Palm Harbor Honda in Palm Harbor Florida..... Another, dealership, told me from Clearwater Honda Internet sales that they will be selling at MSRP, and not like the other dealerships price, which he said was just talk... I tend to believe him, that the price just $200 above was a bait and not real. I was also told that the Civic's will not come out until October, which seemed very long considering others have them already. Don't know who to believe now. Wish these dealerships would get their act together and have good information....
  • After a lot of googling, I found this list of sticker prices at Consumer Guide Automotive. No invoice prices, though. And no sticker price for the Si.

    http://auto.consumerguide.com/Auto/New/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/38695/Act/Prices/

    Yesterday I drove to a distant Honda dealership that had the first two '06 Civics to arrive within 100 miles. When I got there, the car I drove already had 40 miles on it from just one day of test driving.

    After my test drive, I drove home and passed by my local Honda dealer, which had yet to receive an '06 Civic when I began my trip. As I drove by, a truck was parked in front delivering two '06 Civics. I stopped by that dealer today to test drive an LX manual instead of an automatic. The sales guy told me they're holding out for sticker on these first two or three vehicles, but they're getting in 10 more next week. And this is a small dealership. The sales guy at the first dealership, also rather small, said he expects prices will drop within a couple of weeks. He also said these first few models are being imported from Japan, but models from U.S. plants should hit the showroom floors in a couple of weeks. That should increase supply considerably.

    Honda sells 300,000 Civics every year, so I'm going to wait a bit. I think die hards will buy up the first batch of Civics at sticker price, but more cost-conscious shoppers are going to look hard at an '05 Civic or Corolla on clearance before they'll pay sticker for a Civic. At sticker prices, the Civics are within spitting distance of the discounted price any dealer will accept for an Accord or Camry. I'll be astounded if demand for Civics equals supply at that sticker price. I'm confident dealerships will have to negotiate a little, and I think prices will drop fairly soon if even a small dealership can get its hands on 10 vehicles the second week they're available.

    By contrast, there are waiting lists for a Toyota Prius, but Toyota is only producing 50,000 this year. There will be six times as many '06 Civics produced. For those chasing mileage, the sticker price of the high end Civics makes hybrids look a lot more attractive, further discounting the value of a high-end Civic, particularly in places where a Prius or Civic Hybrid can use an HOV lane with only one person in the car.

    I found one dealer that is selling the '06 Civic $500 below sticker. Problem is, it's clear across the country from me in Connecticut. But if you know a dealer that will match or beat any advertised price, this might be worth $500 to you.

    http://www.manhonda.com/new/index.cfm?pg=0&selId=107
  • There is no maintenance manual for the '06 Civics. An on-board computer tracks all of the maintenance for you and reminds you, for example, when it's time to change the oil.

    Recommended oil changes are 5,000 - 10,000 miles. The car automatically tests the oil viscosity and tells you when the oil is too thin and needs to be changed. No more need for window stickers to remind you when to change the oil.

    No more timing belt. The Civic has a timing chain, now. Should last a long, long, time.

    Car is supposed to go 110,000 miles before needing a tune-up.

    There are two radiator fans.

    Windshield wipers are heavy duty. Should move a few inches of snow without any trouble.

    Auto trans is rated higher gas mileage than the manual. Auto 30/40. Manual 30/38.
  • sunilbsunilb Posts: 407
    option #3.
  • I just returned from a test drive on the '06 Civic Sedan - wonderful car, a bit soft. I have already agreed, with a $1000 down, that I will pay for an EX special order coming in on Saturday. I am getting an EX with the navigational system and a free Bra/Lock Lugs, and discounted Cover all for $21,050. The dealership included registration fees with the price. Don't have buyers remorse at the moment, but may if anyone else is getting them for less. I showed the internet price from CT (not including Nav system), and I think he gave me his best price. Thoughts?
  • psypsy Posts: 122
    My dealer has prices posted for 06 sedans. All prices include dest. plus a $50.00 prossesing fee.

    http://www.markroberts.com/
  • Thank you! Prices coming down already.
  • Honda has just updated their website. The 05 Civic sedan section has been replace with the 06.

    [EDIT] Actually, I guess I caught them testing the page. The main Honda cars page has gone mometarily gone back to the 05 link. But I still have the 06 page open. I'll see if I can post some links. Keep in mind, It looks like they are still loading some material, so not all pics or links work yet.
    06 civic test link

    [EDIT #2] Nevermind, main page has gone back to 06 link. If it doesn't work for you, keep trying.
  • The new front under spoiler makes the sedan look mean. Too bad my wife will never go for it. Why do we have to share cars?
  • rms41rms41 Posts: 80
    A dealer in Barrington, IL gave me a written quote of "not to exceed MSRP minus $500". I got this quote a few days before the prices were known. It is for an EX Coupe with automatic.
  • Fowler Honda in Norman, OK is already $100 lower than Roberts on an '06 sedan. The prices are not on the web site, but the internet sales manager sent me a quote - and it was lower. Doc fee was $99, but still lower total. Nice to see not a lot of gouging going on.

    I also asked for a quote on an '06 CR-V - and they were $210 lower than what I saw on Roberts.
  • playplay Posts: 38
    Whether the Prius is certifiably ugly or not, its look is widely recognized to be part of its appeal--many people driving them like making a statement about ecology, use of natural resources, etc.

    I've also heard that this phenomenon worked against Honda--they went out of their way to make the Civic and Accord hybrids look like the "regular" versions, which cost them some sales with the more activist-minded consumers.


    Yeah, your right, I heard.....seen the same thing. It reminds me of the original Beetle and Tiny Tim.

    Actually thats a slam on the original Beatle.
  • playplay Posts: 38
    Towards the bottom of the page opened by this link, you can find a tire size calculator which will show you the speedometer error resulting from upsizing your tire. I don't think you will significantly lower your RPM, but you will throw off your speedometer and odometer a lot and may well run into clearance issues.


    micweb, thank you for that link. I was aware of the speedometer error consequence. I didn't think the +/- 5% tire circumference increase would effect clearance if tire width remained the same. I suppose it could also marginally affect handling. But from a pure MPG standpoint, wouldn't you be achieveing the same with the manual as the automatic at that point?

    That is what I keep pondering.
  • The coupe is up now too.
  • SITTING IN THE SEDAN YOU CAN'T SEE WHERE THE FRONT OF THE CAR IS. YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THE HOOD TO GET AN IDEA WHERE FRONT IS. HAS ANYBODY SIT IN THE COUPE AND IS IT THE SAME.
  • psypsy Posts: 122
    gearjammer62

    We bought our 05 ex accord sedan from mark roberts. They did knock another $300 off of the posted price.

    I wish the toyota dealers wherent thugs in Tulsa. I really hate to hear about folks paying msrp.
  • psypsy Posts: 122
    Our 05 Accord is like that. We dont need to see the hood and front end to know where the car is.
  • mvs1mvs1 Posts: 462
    Honda and Toyota have had sloped hoods for decades.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,728
    This is a problem on virtually every car today (except maybe the Ford Crown Vic!).

    Good article today in the WSJ (repeated in my local paper) about why Honda went with more streamlined styling for '06. The Civic used to be low and wide, and it was a huge success, with sales for the Civic peaking in '98. Then the sales slide began, with sales off 8% since then. Honda decided they must return to the "low and wide" design for '06, resulting in a much lower and wider car compared to '05--too wide to be considered a "small" car in Japan. They are trying to create something distinctive in the class, and I think they succeeded.
  • yesrohyesroh Posts: 290
    My eye would notice a 5% difference in tire circumference, I think, unless...think about this...get wider tires at the same percentage series...for example, put a 216/60/16 on instead of a 205/60/16. Of course, then your wider tire would have more drag. I don't know about that...I ran wider tires on my Accord and if anything, my gas mileage went up. They were also slightly lower profile too. I think it's just splitting hairs...the car was built to perform on a certain size tire so you might notice squishier handling.
    My ex wife used to have a 1995 Integra with 195/55/15 tires. One day she got new tires...195/60/15. I drove over for dinner and the new tires caught my eye immediately...I asked her if she got the same size tire. That was just a 3.7% difference and it took me no time to notice it. If you drive your car and love it, you'll look at it a lot and you'll notice every change.
  • yesrohyesroh Posts: 290
    Power is up by about 18%. That should help a lot because the old ones were very slow compared to the Insight and Prius.
  • yesrohyesroh Posts: 290
    Low and wide look great but don't feel so great when you sit in them. I mean, they can be comfortable but I think the taller car will always be more comfortable, all other things being the same.
    I thought the taller cars were a way to make more room without making a larger footprint on the road, and also, I thought they were an answer to the SUV's which many people buy because they like to sit high (and use a lot more gas to push air). I don't mind taller cars so much but I also think you can make a car wider without affecting its footprint so much. If you round off the front corners you won't increase the turn radius that much.
    The old CRX Si was about seven inches lower than the '05 Civic. That's a huge difference.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,728
    Yes, making cars taller is a way to increase interior room without increasing the car's length. So I was surprised that there was so much usable space for four passengers in the new Civic. I was actually more comfortable in the back seat than in cars that are taller. There is a surprising amount of leg room, and even head room, back there. I am 5'10" and my head didn't brush the headliner like it does on many small cars. Some people may not like the lower seating position, but I think some do (think Jaguar for example). I give Honda credit for stepping away from the current norm in small cars. It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but that's OK. There are many bland-mobiles to choose from.
  • i guess because of official 9/15 launch, i was expecting some 'official' road tests to pop up on the net today. so far i haven't seen any, except for the WSJ one referred to above...but i don't subscribe to that in canada...where are the new road tests??
    now i know why the EX is quieter- thicker carpeting and additional hood insulator after i visited canadian dealer last night...but is it softer riding, too since the rear disc might call for different suspension calibrations?
  • excellent point. honda has chosen form over function and that's a shame, in my book. the more space you can cram into a small package the better the car. making it wider helps some but the biggest losses will be in leg room and especially head room. the sloped windshield does not lend itself to a 'kichen chair" seating position: very easy to get in and out of the car and the seat. the 06 does have a cab forward design and that's a big help with space utilization, but alot of the advantages were lost with the extreme rake to the windshield.
  • evpedevped Posts: 39
    I can't find a sunglasses holder in the interior. Did I miss it?
  • Here's a few pictures I found of the new Civic sedan.

    I've decided that I don't like this car, at least from the pictures. The interior design is very unconventional, and the rear taillights are really ugly. The outgoing Civic may have looked plain, but even that was more handsome than this new model. I'd say my pick in this segment remains the Mazda3, at least until the Dodge Caliber comes out.

    http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/HondaCivic/Photos.htm
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