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I'm surprised they didn't match the rate at the dealer, though...
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In terms of your deal, I would think they are below invoice and dipping into their holdback at that price. 56k from an MSRP of 66k is over 15%; I believe that typically invoice is about 12-13% of MSRP. Plus the dealer always adds in the regional advertising, etc. to their invoice. Your deal, to me, seems pretty good. In my case, I tried to squeek out a little extra, asking for winter floor mats thrown in, but they wouldn't budge. I could tell they were at absolute rock bottom with their price. In your case, it looks like they are really trying to move that car. I'd be surprised if they came down much more. If you get anything, you'll be lucky. I think they'll laugh at 6-7%. Someone else will eventually buy, even to save $1000 or so. Having said this, I did see one instance of a leftover 2003 Turbo - that'd be a tough sell for me at almost any price, unless they certified it for free and sold it at a loss.
I hope I'm wrong - good luck, and remember that the dealer's ability to certify that 2004 can add value to the deal.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Dealer is asking $53K. KBB price is about $55K.
I see posters here indicating 15% discount below MSRP usually available, which would amount in this case to about $8,000 off a $53K sticker. That is, a price of $45K.
Am I missing something here?
I haven't started negotiating with dealer yet, but I prefer to make an offer which is reasonable, but firm, and I am trying to get a sense of the right number. (Here, $45K?)
Thanks in adance for any wisdom on the subject.
I was trying to sell my car (a BMW M) and might just wait...that new 375 hp model coming out might be a better ticket. I would figure that the 0-60 time would go to around 6.0 sec ?
AM I missing a better deal here? Also, if you know of any dealers that you like to work with, please let me know.
Thanks,
I am taking the advice from one of members in the Porsche forum to negotiate via email or fax and when the deal is sealed (price agreed), send the wire and pick up the car. I don't want to sit at the dealer for hours try to negotiate the price down.
You can borrow $48,500 at 4.9% for 60 months, and the payment is only $913. At the end of 30 months, you would owe less than $26K on the car.. And, that is with nothing upfront.
On another subject:
Both Porsche dealers in my area had ads in the paper yesterday for '04 Cayenne S models... One dealer had three remaining, with $10K off MSRP. The other had 9 remaining, with $14K-$15K off MSRP.
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kyfdx
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While the heated wheel is "free" with heated front seats, be aware that it probably won't be of much use to you in the Middle Atlantic states and isn't too warm anyway. Additonally, a heated wheel means you can't get the neat wood wheel. You could get a wood wheel and still put money in your pocket if you went to the non-metalic black.
Thanks.
I dealt directly with the internet salesman who is also the sales manager for the store. He gave me the offer right off the bat with a $1000 deposit. I tried to see if another dealership would give me the same deal but it took a bit of negotiating and I definitely felt more pressure there, ie "if I can meet that number, you'll buy right now?" They also wanted $5000 down. So I went with the dealer I felt more comfortable with.
Interesting to note that the dealer I ended up buying from offered the same 6% off MSRP for the 05s and would not go lower. I guess he figured he could sell his remaining allotment to the "I gotta have it right now" crowd with no problem. The dealer I rejected actually went as low as 8% off the 05s and I think he would have gone as low as 10% off. But IMO, it was better to order an 06 to my exact specs.
Car will begin build in August, and hopefully delivered in October. It's a whole lotta money, especially compared to the Lexus GX, but I don't regret it one bit.
we asked the salesman if he'd take 8% off the MSRP of an 06. he agreed. he also
agreed to give us a cay for 2 days since my wife was concerned about the engine
noise as compared to our X5. the experience so far has been a good 1 & we'll pick up the loaner in a couple of days. he felt an 06 order now would be in the end of august. figure we'll ask for 12-14% when we're ready as the next starting point.any word on the $ for the 06 models would be appreciated since the salesman didn't have a price list yet.
I asked the salesman if they would let an 05 CayS go for 10% off MSRP, just to gauge his reaction. He acted as if I had asked for his first born. Since I was the only customer in the entire store at 3pm on a Saturday, I thought he would put up a token fuss and then gladly relent. Nope. He let me walk.
The biggest thing in the buyer's favor is patience. When the lots start filling up with 05s and the 06s have to be unloaded off the ships, something's gotta give. Not to mention the Cayenne's less than stellar reliability rating, which granted most of us are willing to put up with, but not at anything near MSRP.
The salesman will call me back. He has already called me five times before asking me to come in and take just one more test drive. Then I'll ask for a custom order 06 with 8% off. IMO, buying an 05 at this point is a losing proposition unless you can get at least 11% off. Dealers are still looking for the uninformed buyer who wanders in and thinks that $2000 off a PORSCHE! is a steal. As far as the Cayenne goes, those days are over.
I'd like to know how much negotiating had to be done by those that got 10% or more off their purchase. Based on my experience, these folks had to go through trench warfare to get those prices. Either that or I'm a horrible negotiator.
The whole key to this was patience (and getting one with almost zero options). They're going to give me a free oil service, and I'll pay for the Certification. My belief is that EVERY potential buyer get at least 8% off on the Cay S, and probably more with heavy options. A base Cayenne S has a $7k gap on invoice vs MSRP. With options, that gap widens. Even if you go $1000 or $2000 over invoice, don't worry, they're making their precious $$. You also must consider depreciation!!! Get a good deal or walk baby!
completely blown away in the difference in power. the sales manager @ nashua
porsche audi (nh) offered us only 6% off an 06 cay due in by halloween & 8 1/2%
off an S 06. we could get more off an 05 but had decided on an 06. we are going to a dealer closer tomorrow & will try to negotiated for 10% off an S 06.
Any thoughts??
Incidentally, the BMW store just up the road from Porsche of Nashua not only doesn't have the product (Cay) but their management style went out after the Korean War. I went up by appointment one Saturday to see a couple of certified X5s they had listed on the official BMW North America web site. After a lot of back and forth, they couldn't show them to me because they didn't have them. They hadn't even taken them in in trade yet!
I strongly recommend the guys at Exit 5.
Well, its a long story. Suffice to say that with Section 179 I paid about 31K net for a 47K Cay. I wouldn't have bought a Cay (or anything new, really) if it weren't for the Section 179.
I found it hard to get (and I've posted this earlier) a Cay without lots of useless options. Inskip acted as though it was my fault for not wanting to buy NAV (we live in New England; if you can't find I90 running East/ West and I95 running North/ South, maybe you should move) and "soft" leather. Soft leather for those that have not been on the Porsche web site costs a bunch extra and looks as though a high school prom couple spent the night in your Cay consummating their 2 week "relationship". Inskip allowed as how they could order in a vehicle but sniffed and said they "had never done it before". If Roger Penske ever hears about this, heads will roll in Warwick.
Chambers was more accomodating but had Cays mostly in various shades of black. (Regrettably, it snows in New England. Black looks good only for three weeks a year.) I called Pass & Weiss because I liked their low key ads and that their service manager apparently is a Ph. D. (I recall seeing an ad for mechanics in the Boston Globe asking applicants to call Dr....). For some reason I never went there (maybe I do need NAV: where the heck is Carlise?).
The clock was ticking, literally. My lobster gear was all out of the water and I had to do something. My wife thought I was nuts and refused to discuss the issue anymore with me. Friday, 28 December was the last business day of the year. So, I left for Nashua at 9:00 AM with a friend. The boys in Nashua had a great selection in good colors. I didn't feel that they resented me for trying to buy a car from them. I gave them a check and asked them to call me when it cleared. My friend and I got back into the F150 and went home.
give us a great deal buy taking $2500 off an S. we told him porsche of nashua offered us 9% off & immediately he said he'd match the price to win our business. i walked out of there not too impressed since the dealership was cramped for space, the bathroom door was right next to the seat i was sitting in, & loaners consisted of audi A 4's while nashua lent out cay's. anyway i called nashua up & said if they matched 9% then we had a deal since nashua had actually given us 8 1/2% off as their rock bottom. they called back & came up a 1/2 so this afternoon we drove up from carlisle & wrote up the 06 S. yep it was black with some goodies msrp of 64 & change and no nav system. oh and carlisle my friend is next to concord right over the nh boarder. the expansion of rt 3 really makes it an easy trip for me to exit 5. 9% off makes me happy & they still make 4 geez & change according to edmund's invoice. it should arrive sometime in oct.
wood trim, aluminum roof rails, cd change, upgraded stereo, light comfort package, compass, moon roof, & the power stearing upgrade. no nav! refundable??!! it's a porsche man! can't wait to get it! the dealership get's an A -.
so you didn't tell me where you live.
i struck the deal @ 9% with 5 grand less in options then we added on once we went back to do all the paper work. oh 1 last thing, we didn't realize that a loaner cost 20 bucks wether you have 1 for a day or 4 days it's still a charge of 20. i think the charge is a flat 20 regardless of the length. never had to pay for a loaner before but i guess times are changing. the salesman said the delearship is under an umbrella of 5 dealerships total & this has been a a policy for several years. oh well, @ least the loaners are all porsches! so what dealership did you buy your cay from?
I'm debating whether to get other accessories (cargo mat, rubber floor mats and roof racks) from them or buy 3rd party. Found 3rd party on the cargo mat and rubber floor mat with decent pricing -- unless the Porsche versions of these have their name on it, my guess is 3rd party will be a better choice.
that. i personally didn't care for them. my X5 has bmw rubber floor mats
along with a cargo mat that i like. i'll order the rubber porsche 1's even if
they cost a few bucks more. as for the roof rack, i'd get the 1 from the
dealer since if they scratch it they'll fix it.
not a car! the 06 S went up $900 & the wood trim package increased
the dealer won't be noticable. live for today baby!
i bought a brand new in 2004 (i wanted the car badly)paid 71G not include taxes which is 8.625%(another 6G)right now exactly same car cost under 50G in the market,lose 26G a year on a car, that will make me think again when buying another new car next time.
I am in a limbo mode
cant decide if i should get a Cayenne V6 or The V8 S series
i have seen most deler go for 10% off MSRP
whats the MSRP for V6
and MSRP for S series
i am talking about bare bone Cayenne with no options later i will add options like PCM but want to make up my mind with V6 or S and what price diffrence
Any help really appriciated
Pricing seems all over the map based on www.porscheusa.com search engine, cars.com and autotrader.com, ranging from $49K (even at some dealers) to $56K. One dealer in Ohio told me that they just sole a demo model with around 5,600 miles for $47K (it was an S, but light on the options).
I am looking for the smooth leather option (seems to be a little hard to find on the S) and have made firm offers on cars at 2 dealers at $49K, only to be laughed at...with no counter offer even forthcoming. I am a little confused about the actual market value of these cars and really don't want to overpay.
I would be most appreciative of feedback on buying experiences for a low mileage '04S, including dealers that they would recommend.
You should be able to get the MSRP for the S on the Edmunds website -- I believe its around $12,200 more than the Base v6.
I decided to stop screwing around looking for a used, low mileage CS with the options I wanted and went ahead and ordered a custom build '06. On the advice of others on this board I went to Porsche of Nashua. Dealer gets an A plus...very helpful and easy to work with.
It will be a Sept. build, with delivery expected in October or possibly November.
Ordered the following goodies:
Basalt Black Metallic
Full Leather (like the CT, hard to find on the S)
Heated seats and wheel.
Bi Xenon
Moonroof
Mats
Sirius Satellite radio
Turbo Wheel
Roof Carrying System
All Season tires on '18 inch rims
Ski Bag
PCM 2.1
Colored Caps
MSRP $69,475 (including destination), but a discount in the range others on this board suggested them got from this same dealer.
Can't wait to get my hands on this vehicle. I currently drive a BMW X5 4.4, which I really like, but after test driving the CS pretty extensively I think it takes all of what the BMW does to another level.
beige interior. no pcm, roof carrying system, sirus, full leather,
or ski bag. all other extras the same as yours plus compass,
light comfort package, cd changer, variable assist power steering,
gloss light wood, & roof rails. i think the roof rails although some what
of a waste do look sharp against the basalt black. our salesman
talked us into the power steering option. the sales manager told
us that hardly anyone orders the wood trim package & he attributed
that to a "new hampshire thing". yep, so far the dealership has provided
a solid experience. so how much did you get off? our S including the $815
destination charge came to $65,605 msrp before the 9% discount.
Mine came to $69,475 (including $815 destination charge), but before the discount, which was nearly the same % discount as yours.
I agonized over leaving out the light comfort package and the memory seats, but I had to cut options somewhere because the full leather was over 3 G's, and the PCM was too, and I was at the outer-reaches of my budget. I also initially ordered the thicker steering wheel, which I like in the 2 seaters, but I after seeing it in person on the CS, I decided to nix it (especially for $985!). I also considered the exterior "blackout package" but decided the alluminun trim looked sharper, especially set against the roof carrying system and because of the titanium interior accents.
I really can't wait to get this car, but I am a little concerned about the hesitation problems some people here have complained about. I am counting on this either being solved in the 2006 build, or a simple fix by the dealer. (In the 2 Cayennes that I tested pretty extensively, I didn't experience this at all, although one of them did seem to have a little boost delay, sort of like a turbo lag, and the other seemed really "torqued up" in comparison. (I attributed this to the software/programming issues people have described). It wasn't nearly as dramatic as the person who described nearly being killed in one of the other edmunds threads.
Thanks for pointing me to Nashua on your post. Based on my experiences with other dealers (namely IRA in Peabody) it was sage advice. IRA basically gave me what I thought was an obviously high price and when I made a counter-offer to invite negotiation, they never bothered to even return my calls or e mails. A couple days later I purchased the car in Nashua. Their loss. Other dealers around the country offered similar discount to Nashua, and some slightly more, but they were really nice and an easy drive from the North Shore.