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Honda Odyssey 2005+

jimxojimxo Posts: 423
Out with the old and in with the new.

I need to decide in the next few weeks if I should order the Honda or go with something else. I must admit if the new Odyssey drives as good as it looks I'm a happy camper.
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  • The Ody has some things that the Sienna doesn't so that's a wash. Nothing you listed amounts to "a lot more". Which Toyota models are being sold with $2000 or $3000 rebates?
  • I take it that you are not a current Ody owner - here's a story that illustrates the Odyssey's owner satisfaction:

    My wife and I own two cars: a 2000 Odyssey van and a Mercedes car. We both drive one or the other depending on how many passengers, size of load (I often take the Ody to Home Depot...)

    The Mercedes is getting a bit old and although it still runs very well, I'm starting to think about replacing it. Asked the good wife what car she thinks she would prefer - she wants ANOTHER Odyssey. Not sure if I want two vehicles that size in our garage but I can see her point - Odyssey is attractive (not just another bloated jelly bean like most of the competition - although IMHO the 2005 design has unfortunately moved a bit in that direction) comfortable, smooth to drive, plenty of power, holds the road well. MY only complaint would be interior noise and poor stereo - both of which are vastly improved since 2000 model.
  • I think the 2005 ody is very attractive and have a lot to offer. But I'd say what until you are able to test drive one before purchasing. I remember all of the positive reviews about the 2001-2004 Ody's. I was not impressed at all with it out side of the magic seat. In life I have learned that one's opinion might not be the best decision for me or they might be wrong all together. Just my opinion.
  • I think the new look will grow on you.
    I think the '05 Ody looks much better than the '04 Ody.
    And I don't blame your wife.
    We have a silver 2003 Ody EX-L w/NAV. I drive a Lexus LS400. I want to replace my black Lexus with a black '05 Ody Touring w/NAV+RES.
  • Don't remember who mentioned this: no minivan will breaking any ground in exterior styling. It only can be unique and only interior make big difference. For space, you want it to be square; for aerodynamic, you need curve and smooth line; for whom don't want to be seen in a van loaded with kids, you want it looks like a SUV. So it's not much you can play with it. Nissan take a chance and end up turning off many customers more than admirers. I believe many is OK with the exterior but disappointed when they sit in. The dash board design is simply too much to be user friendly. Nobody will turn head on a minivan to be honest. But people will apraise the interior and features that Minivan brings. My 2 cents.
  • consider this:
    04 EXL MSRP is only 28980, and
    04 EXL w/ NAV. MSRP is only: $30980

    Even w/ 2% increase:
    05 EXL MSRP shall be 29500.
    05 EXL w/ RES AND NAV. MSRP shall be 32500.
    top of the line 05 EXL touring w/ RES AND NAV. shall be 34500.

    All including dest. charge.

    The difference between the EXL and touring is only about $2000.

    By the morning of Sep 22, there will be more than 15,000 new 05 ody. flooded on dealers' lot, which is more than one mon. sales. If we collectively NOT talk to or visit those dealers for the 1st. 3 days after Sep. 22, we'll see $1000 under on Sep. 25:-)
    Anyone wants to join?
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    has anybody seen the olive interior?
  • qveeqvee Posts: 8
    Your pricing estimate for the Odyssey seems about right. I've seen reports that the van will be priced as high as $38,000 (for the Touring model). This price seems absurdly high. I have owned Honda/Acura products as well multiple Toyota/Lexus products. Overall, Hondas are are the better value. Toyota, on the other hand, offers overall better quality (in textures) & a quieter ride.

    The ensuing sales contest between the Odyssey and Sienna will be interesting. If the Odyssey's pricing doesn't give it the appearance of being a better value, it may give ground to the Sienna.
  • I think Honda are likely to put a lower price increase on the entry level LX and EX cloth (my guess is $24,990 for the LX) and a larger increase for the equipment heavier EX-L. If they take the same approach as with the 2005 Pilot EX-L increases, they will tack on $800 for the sunroof and a $450 true increase. That would put the EX-L at $29,740. Add $2,000 for NAVI and $1,500 for RES and the loaded EX-L would hit $33,240. I'd guess $31,490 for the Touring Base, $34,990 with RES and NAVI.
  • The Accord i-CDTi engine sold in EU is said to be outstandingly clean, quiet, and efficient (as if Honda knew any other way). 50+ mpg on the hwy. Honda, put this engine in the Ody and I'll order one today (and feed it a strict diet of 100% biodiesel).
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    140 HP in a 4500 lb. minivan will not sell. First thing people will see... 0-60 in 14s!
  • qveeqvee Posts: 8
    Time will tell whether consumers are ready for the stratospheric jump in van prices. $35,000 for a minivan? There is too much stiff competition and several alternatives.
  • Honda's pricing will be lower than Toyota's however it is unrealistic to think that the Touring addition with Nav and Res will be under $35,000. Toyota gets just over $39,000. for a comparable XLE Limited. Honda will likely come in at $37,900. for the Touring N/R. Remember the parallel pricing between Camry and Accord. Touring will also be up there because it's a new high end addition. Two years ago who would have figured a Mini van could go for just under $40,000. and be in high demand (XLE Limited)! Honda is a for profit oriented enterprise!
  • jimxojimxo Posts: 423
    The touring model will be 34k add 3,500 for Nav & Res brings you near 37k.
  • Are you a dealer? how can you be so sure? just trying to jack up the price?
    By comparing the 04 Ody, w/ 04 and 05 Sienna, and Quest, apple to apple, feature to feature, discount offered, product supplies, if the Touring w/ E&N is more than $34,500 including dest. charge, everyone shall walk to see their Toyota, period.
  • Don't forget the 'Additional Dealer Markup.'
  • inky4inky4 Posts: 238
    AMEN,wrong forum but the honda eur diesel managed 70 mpg with great performance on hot selling euro accord (tsx looking)
    who needs hybrid complexity with that tech out there?
  • I've driven the 2005 Odyssey EX, EX-L with DVD and NAVI, and the Touring with DVD and NAVI. This van is now quieter than a Sienna! Here are the test results that Honda measured:

    At 4,000 RPM the 2005 Odyssey is 2db quieter than the Sienna. At 20 mph the 2005 Odyssey is 3db quieter than the Sienna. At 60 mph the 2005 Odyssey is 4db quieter than the Sienna. During acceleration the 2005 Odyssey is 1db quieter than the Sienna. With the A/C running the 2005 Odyssey is 5db quieter than the Sienna. Hitting a bump in the road both the 2005 Odyssey and the Sienna measure at 80db.

    As for the interior quality I think that one would be hard pressed to rate one over the other.
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