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Honda Odyssey 2005+

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  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    I think you just proved nwng's point.

    Your nephew paid right at invoice back in November for an EX. Yet you state that now, as we near the end of the model year, dealer's aren't willing to even get to halfway between invoice and MSRP for you?

    Perhaps your nephew should negotiate for you..... :P
  • mi_satmi_sat Posts: 42
    Never purchased from these guys before, but CarsDirect (www.carsdirect.com) offers the EX-L with DVD/NAV for $31,963 (before tax, title, and license).

    The Touring with DVD/NAV goes for $36,237.

    Not sure how much the pricing is dependent on your zip code. But those are the prices for mine.

    Anyone have any experience with CarsDirect?
  • b_kb_k Posts: 1
    I also have a whistling noise. It's of a very low intensity, intermittent, and almost as though something is jangling. It comes up when the vehicle is at high speeds (60mi/hour), and after driving for about 8-10 minutes at this speed. It is mostly audible from the driver's seat. I am thinking of taking my car to my dealer...any advice?
    Also, on the passenger side, the rear bumper is slightly malaligned by several milimeters. What could be the cause of this? I have a Honda EX two months old.
    Thank you for your help.
  • mwdreammwdream Posts: 91
    Maybe with all the "employee" pricing going on, Honda is more willing to negotiate on the price. I also heard Honda has a 3% dealer holdback... or 3% of the MSRP is paid back to the dealer. So if the dealer cost is the invoice price, the invoice price is inflated by the holdback amount and is given back to the dealer later. That would mean there is some room under invoice... I guess it depends on the dealer and how bad they need the sale. Try the last day of the month. Good luck.
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    He and his wife walked away from that dealership and others many times. Appeared to just be lucky at the end of a very slow month for the Honda dealership.
  • ClairesClaires Chicago areaPosts: 976
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  • dilbertzzzdilbertzzz Posts: 190
    No, no, no, sebring95, no. This is the place that everyone can come to first, so that they can be told where to go! :P :surprise: ;)
  • hsonghsong Posts: 11
    check cnn.

    :(
  • mrs242mrs242 Posts: 5
    Consumer Reports ranked the Honda Ody as one of the Top 2 Mini Vans to purchase. I LOVE my van! I spent about 2 months back and forth between the Toyota sienna and the Honda Ody. I took my twins and my oldest daughter and test drove those vans back and forth. Then my husband did his research. By far hands down that Honda is the best van by far. Now it is a newer version this year with more bells and whistles..so the bells and whistles might have some bugs to work out...like my RES...screen that needs some work. But overalll I love my Honda and I do believe it was a wise choice. If I have to eat my words later then I'll let you know. (ha ha...just joking) But I do trust my husband and Consumer Reports. My Honda handles great and I do love it! My Uncle who is an Engineer and studies cars...also says it was one of the smartest things we could have done. But you have to decide for yourself.
  • mrs242mrs242 Posts: 5
    I have 3 kids at home and end up running lots of errands with my kids and taking their friends. We also take trips...LONG trips. We bought the Honda Ody 5 Dr Ex-L RES. I LOVE it...Except for the small problem I am having right now with the RES....and it's only the screen right now. Which our dealer is fixing. It's comfy..holds a lot of luggage, I can easily remove the 8th seat, don't really need a compass, but they are nice. Just go drive the 2 vans you are deciding on. Take your kids and make them get in and out of it on thir own without you if that is an issue...ie (car rider lines...) that was a deciding factor for me! Then, go on your own without them so that you can have your own peaceful mind to drive the van the way you want to and really think and decide whether you really like it or not. We didn't get the NAV system, and I travel a lot. I just get my maps or get on the internet. I would much rather spend that money on something else. But you have to decide for yourself. That's what worked for us. I'll keep you in my prayers, and it's your money and you don't want to spend it on something you don't really need or want! The sales people will try to make you think you want something or you'll need it. Those NAV systems are great..but do you really want to pay for them. Think about it and Good luck!!!!!!! :)
  • jjtrindcjjtrindc Posts: 24
    My wife and I pretty much zoned in on the Touring. We did briefly consider the lack of an 8th seat but felt comfortable that hauling eight people was a longshot and things like little league and soccer a few years off (so we could be eating our words...lol). Except for buying a 97 used Subaru a few years back, we hadn't bought a brand new car of 12 years...so we wanted to treat ourselves with all the bells and whistles. Completely unlike us to not comparison shop and analyze to death. Love the touring. I enjoy the MID, she likes the memory seats, the power liftgate has actually been quite useful. The second row console is great too (I think that's touring only).

    As for the PAX, we honestly didn't know much of the issues involved. I'm comforted with the fact that they are covered with a two year warranty. In two years, I'm guessing PAX will have become more available and pricing and availability much more consumer friendly.
  • mb05mb05 Posts: 5
    I just took my 2005 EX in for the same problem. They told me it was a service bulletin which meant they were made aware of it and to expect the Odysseys to come it with this problem. Here's what it is....when you lift the hood, there is a plate that the windshield wipers are screwed into. That plate is deformed and will lift and make a whistling noise. The dealer ordered a new part and fixed my van. I no longer hear that whistling noise. He said if the noise ever comes back, then bring the car back and its always covered due to the service bulletin. Good luck!!
  • epondepond Posts: 13
    mb05 - Did your Ody vin # fall in the ranges of the TSB?

    The TSB 04-078 "Wind Noise from the Windshield" was for 2005 Ody from vin 5FNRL...5B000001 thru 5FNRL...5B023220. >

    Our Ody has the whistling wind noise, but falls outside of the vin # for the TSB - therefore, it supposively was fixed and shouldn't have the problem.

    I am wondering if I took it in to get serviced, if they would service it at all and if it would even work?

    Thanks in advance.
    Love the Ody!

    Eric
  • mb05mb05 Posts: 5
    I am not sure what TSB is but my VIN does fall between those numbers.

    Good luck.
  • DETROIT (Reuters) - Honda Motor Co. Ltd. is recalling 85,154 Odyssey minivans in the United States to fix potential problems with their frontal air bag systems, federal safety regulators said on Wednesday.

    The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said the problem, affecting minivans from the 2005 model year, stemmed from two external impact sensors that may have been insufficiently sealed during the manufacturing process.

    If water enters the sensor corrosion can occur, possibly causing a short circuit, NHTSA said.

    It added that front impact sensor failure could cause a delay in or loss of frontal air bag deployment, increasing the risk of injury in a crash.

    The Honda recall is expected to begin on Aug, 29, NHTSA said.
  • jimbob1jimbob1 Posts: 70
    I noticed today that the 2006 Nissan Quest SE will come with the PAX tire system. The more vehicles involved with PAX, the faster it will roll out to tire shops and dealerships.
  • ichafatichafat Posts: 5
    "The Touring model adds a power liftgate, tri-zone auto climate control, driver-seat memory, a 115-volt AC outlet, a multi-information display, power-adjustable pedals, a leather-wrapped steering wheel, an auto-dimming rearview mirror, foglights, parking sensors, auto headlights, a second-row removable center console (in place of the stowable middle seat), run-flat tires, 17.5-inch wheels and a tire-pressure monitoring system."

    Not a whole lot of value there for $5k, IMHO. It likely won't bring that much at trade-in time. When I took out what I wouldn't have added a la carte anyway, I decided that memory seat weren't worth that much to me (even though I have had two vehicles with memory seats). Likewise, the auto-dimming inside mirror (again after having two vehicles with them). It is really not much trouble to flip the lever when needed. I am very happy with my EX-L. It is not trouble to readjust the seat when I need to drive it. Run-flat tires might have been nice 40 years ago when I started driving, but now flat tires are pretty rare. The tire pressure monitor on my G35 is nice, but I have only had to add air once in more than an year. Modern tires are doggone good.

    That said, it's your money... Sure do like the Ody. Wife is immensely happier than with her 10yo T&C.
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,231
    $5K?? It only adds $3774 to the invoice. Unless tourings are bringing a big premium in your neighborhood. I was offered invoice on whatever model I wanted. if you look at what those options would add to other vehicles, the Touring isn't out-of-line price wise. I'm not big on the PAX either as I like to have more choice when replacing tires or running snows.

    That being said, I would have bought the touring without blinking had it come with the 8th seat. I do miss some of the features of the Touring, but I would have missed the 8th seat by-far more.
  • c2rosac2rosa Posts: 76
    Honda Recalling Minivans Because of Potentially Faulty Sensors

    Here are some snippets. Check out the URL for more information.

    http://www.freep.com/money/autonews/irep4e_20050804.htm

    The Honda Motor Co. will recall thousands of its Odyssey minivans amid concerns that potentially faulty sensors for the frontal air bag system could make a warning lamp on the instrument panel remain illuminated, the company said Wednesday.
    .............
    Honda said the recall involved 85,154 Odyssey minivans from the 2005 model year. The company said the two sensors near the front bumper may be susceptible to corrosion from road salt, leading the warning light to turn on.
    .......
    The warning light indicates a malfunction and instructs the driver to have the vehicle repaired. The company said in a letter to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration that some of the sensors were insufficiently sealed during manufacturing.
  • dilbertzzzdilbertzzz Posts: 190
    I was pretty impressed with the list myself.

    1. The power lift gate is a very nice luxury.
    2. Tri-zone auto climate control is almost a necessity for two adults whose body temperatures vary drastically, together with two kids cocooned in booster/child-safety seats. We know this because of the temperature comfort complaints from everyone when we take our Taurus SES and the absence of same when we take our Yukon XL.
    3. The driver-seat memory and power-adjustable pedals are our dream. My wife and I both drive both vehicles and our statures vary by about 10 inches (though my out-of-proportion stubby legs make our leg lengths differ by only 4 or 5 inches). Every time we go through the adjust-everything ritual, we find ourselves salivating over these option (would that both were memory and the mirrors too! Mercedes or Lexus, I guess?).
    4. I'll admit that the 115-volt AC outlet and multi-information display aren't too exciting to me.
    5. But the leather-wrapped steering wheel as in the Yukon is a delight.
    6. Also, the auto-dimming rearview mirror is not only very nice, but also helps prevent a distraction that manually adjusting the mirror causes (not to mention the slight irritation at those so-and-so drivers who have their brights on, thoughtlessly blast the highway with their high-output bulbs, have their headlights misadjusted, or all three! :mad: ).
    7. Likewise, auto headlights are wonderful.
    8. The foglights, parking sensors, and the second-row removable center console are, at the very least, nice-to-haves.
    9. Run-flat tires and the tire-pressure monitoring system might make me feel just a bit better with my wife driving the "wilds" of DFW-area highways (where "courtesy" is undefined and the speed limit signs are taken as the minimum acceptable driving speed). :surprise: :mad:
    10. And 17.5-inch wheels would enhance that sense of pride in owning something attractive.

    All in all, that's a long list of features I personally would value and well worth a few grand, if you can afford it, IMHO. :)
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    PAX tires are NOT very popular with many would be Odyssey Touring people. :sick: (Sienna run-flat are also NOT very popular). :cry:
  • As I am in the process of buying a 2005 Odyssey, I am a little bit nervous with all these recalls. So far after the 05s were introduced, there are a total of 4 recalls. I hope that Honda is not compromising their quality for the money, which would be a very bad thing. Is it just that 05s are a new generation model, and (is it) normal for a first year model? I don't know. I would still probably go ahead and buy one, but just wanted to share with this forum my nervousness to see if someone else has any other comments. And, I am not liking the idea to wait for the 06 models, which will be selling probably close to sticker when they come out within a month or so, as I have a deal to get one next week for very close to invoice. Thank you!
  • dilbertzzzdilbertzzz Posts: 190
    Here around Dallas/Fort Worth, it is all too common to hear about someone killed along side the road with tire/car trouble. Don't think I'm being overly dramatic. This happens at least twice a month here.

    I've actually told my wife to either drive through the ditch to the frontage road or limp on down the highway to an exit rather than to stop beside the road and risk her life (and usually also, our children's lives) stopping beside the highway.

    Doubtless such a maneuver is still risky and would probably destroy the wheel and maybe suspension parts in the case of a flat. But such expense is well worth my families' lives. So, you can well imagine how the relative increased expense and potential hassle of the PAX tires is less of a concern to me than to others.
  • If one doesn't care about the PlusOne seat and the PAX tire (which can be hard to get and costlier to maintain over the years), and have the money to spend, by all means go for the Touring - it does have features that are very nice. One thing that I have not heard anyone mention is that Touring has a 24.0mm front stabilizer bar, which is only 23.0mm for the rest of the models - a slightly better safety! Another point - if you don't care for the PlusOne seat, why not consider a Sienna - don't shoot me - just a thought :confuse: .....
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,231
    I bought mine in April and have had zero recalls and really no problems. It seems like whatever recalls have occurred were caught fairly early and corrected on the line. This latest recall only applies to vehicles built through approx. January.

    It is common for any new fully redesigned vehicle to have some teething problems. My family was in the auto business for 30 years. We never bought first-year cars, but IMHO the manufacturers have done a tremendously better job than in the past. I like new stuff with the latest gadgets, so I'll give 'em six months of production before buying. Haven't gotten burned yet. Not sure I'd try it with a Ford or Dodge yet....GM has done fairly well though.
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    Excellent point and you have given your wife smart advice. ;)
    However, couldn't a person just drive a little slower in the far right lane to the next exit on a flat tire of any kind? I frequently see TV footage of criminals driving for many miles on tires flattened by Police spikes and often at high speeds.
  • How could you tell that the latest recall only applies to vehicles built through approx. January? Thanks so much! I tried to find that information, but could not during the short search I did this morning. I have been waiting for about two months to get the color I want, and everytime I get hopeful, I get some disappointing news that it will take another couple of weeks (somewhat long story). Very frustrating. And on top of that, these recalls made me even more nervous. If I had the van, I probably would not be worrying as much. Finally today, I have the VIN number, which is somewhat comforting. Anyway, thank you for your comments - it does give me some reassurance - very much appreciated.
  • capriracercapriracer Somewhere in the USPosts: 793
    "However, couldn't a person just drive a little slower in the far right lane to the next exit on a flat tire of any kind?"

    No - A LOT SLOWER would be more like it.

    "I frequently see TV footage of criminals driving for many miles on tires flattened by Police spikes and often at high speeds."

    Have you seen the rims after all this? I don't think you want to be driving on regular tires when they are flat.
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,231
    According to the VIN numbers, it covers the first 85,000 units built. According to production numbers in Automotive News, that should have hit sometime in January. I know of someone with a Feb. produced van that missed the recall as well.
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,231
    I would certainly recommend driving on a flat if my families lives were in danger from stopping along the highway. Just glad I don't have to live around such areas. At least it's not here yet. What's the cost of a tire/rim in that situation? Or a good weapon and some training :P

    But it doesn't take much to destroy a tire from running on the rim. My daughter drove her Celica GTS back to the house on a flat (just up the drive, about 1/4 mile) and it destroyed her tire. Instead of a $7 fix, it was $350 for 2 new tires. She now knows to huff-it back up the drive in that situation!
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