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Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna

Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,917
We're starting up a new comparision topic since the Odyssey just had a redesign for 2005 and the Sienna is still very fresh, so if you're comparing the newest model Honda and Toyota minivans, join in here.

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  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    Any word on when Honda will release official pricing on all trim levels of the new Ody? Cars are sheduled to hit the lots middle of next week; official pricing ought to be out any day now.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,567
    knowing Honda, you might not see the pricing until the 22nd when the cars show up. I believe that's what happened with the TSX. There were rumors, but even dealers didn't know for sure until the first one rolled off the truck and they way the window sticker.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • ctsangctsang Posts: 237
    The 05 Ody is so good that:
    Members of the press have named the 2005 Honda Odyssey as a semi-finalist for "Car of the Year" to be named at the Detroit Auto Show in January.
  • Compared to everything out there, I think the new Odyssey is the best.
    The only way Toyota can beat it is to turn the Sienna over to Lexus.
  • So??? What do the stickers say?! How much is the Touring's MSRP?
  • HYPE...
    Car of the year doesn't mean better than Bmmer, Lexus, Merc.
    Car of the year can be a Civic, a Focus, can be a Kia...As long as it's creative enough for that model year.
  • cericceric Posts: 1,093
    Members of the press have named the 2005 Honda Odyssey as a semi-finalist for "Car of the Year" to be named at the Detroit Auto Show in January.

    While I don't know how the auto show classifies a truck from a car, it is more likely that the Odyssey is a candidate for 'Truck of the Year'.

    Past winners of "Car of the Year"
    2004, Toyota Prius
    2003, BMW Mini Cooper
    2002, Nissan Altima
    2001, Chrysler PT Cruiser
    2000, Ford Focus
    1999, Chevy Corvette
  • BTW, Ivan did not veer away...
  • ctsangctsang Posts: 237
    "Car of the year doesn't mean better than Bmmer, Lexus, Merc."
    Looks like you don't know the criteria or meaning to be car/truck of the year. Find out before you make yourself a fool here among those who know.
  • What's the criteria? I know for sure Car of the Year doesn't mean it's better than all other cars that come out in the year. It may be the most innovative or interesting or whatever.
  • NAME - The awards are the "North American Car of the Year" and "North American Truck of the Year," not "Car of the Year."

        WHO GIVES THE AWARDS? - This year the awards were given by a group of 49 full-time automotive journalists from Canada and the United States. While the awards are announced at the North American International Auto Show, the show
    does not give the awards.

        HOW ARE THE AWARDS CHOSEN? - The awards are designed to recognize the most outstanding vehicles of the year based on factors including innovation, design, safety, handling, driver satisfaction and value for the dollar.

        ELIGIBILITY - Vehicles must be new "substantially changed" from the previous model.

        HOW DO THE JURORS VOTE? - Jurors are given 25 points to divide among cars and trucks. However, no more than 10 points may be given to a single vehicle. The ballots are counted by Deloitte. The three finalists in each category are released in mid-December but until the news conference in January only Richard Gabrys, the vice chairman of Deloitte, knows the winners.

        HISTORY - The awards were started in 1993, were first given in January 1994, and were modeled after the Car of the Year in Europe. They are administered by a seven-person organizing committee and funded by dues paid by
    the jurors.

    As the Sienna was a 2004 canidate, I would imagine the Ody would fall to the car category.
  • Looks like pricing is similar to Sienna. Touring Base MSRP is around $35K which is basically the same as XLE Limited Base which is also around that $35K. But XLE LTD Base sports a power passenger seat, Laser Cruise Control, & HID Lights. But Odyssey Base has memory seats, pedals, and is that it?
  • Ody touring also has 6 cd changer wiht the Nav and Res. Sienna XLE Ltd gets a single cd player if you want Nav.
  • ....there is a reason I said BASE Ody & Sienna. Never mentioned a Odyssey Touring Nav/Res and Sienna HO Pkg, now did I?

    Also, Sienna XLE LTD has power lumbar support (Driver), and 3rd row sunshades as standard equipment. Minor things like faux wood and gated is also in the Sienna.

    Now, Odyssey have faux Aluminum, and Cylinder Deactivation and noise cancellation technology (which, mind you, is just covering up noise & fooling our ears.) And 3rd Row sunshades as optional.

    Now, I hate Honda for putting important buttons on the dash to the left of steering wheel. Moonroof on the dash. Why can't they just get it right and put it on the overhead console? But all this is just personal preference.
  • The big bad Ody monster is out and not such a super deal after all! Features and pricing are virtually head to head with Sienna. Looks like a draw.... each having advantages and drawbacks. Honda is not a religion... but there must be faint hearts and wallets in the temple of Vtec tonight.
  • jimxojimxo Posts: 423
    Which van has better resale value 2005 Honda or Toyota?

    Your best guess is fine
  • The difference in re-sale is negligible between these two vans, and shouldn't be the reason you choose one over the other.
  • Always Honda. Best place to check is "resale values" on edmunds.

    Does that mean you should always buy a Honda - NO! Even if you get a good deal on either brand, make sure you REALLY like it before you buy. Do not buy just for resale, you will not be HAPPY.

    Resale values are driven by a lot of factors, most important of them being reliability. I think the perception is that Hondas are more reliable - although, it does not come close to Toyota in comfort and luxury. And you know what's ironic - Honda is considered a cheap brand in Japan compared to Toyota.
  • ctsangctsang Posts: 237
    GM is considered an expensive brand in Japan. Will you buy a GM?
  • I'd probably take any Cadillac product over any Honda product any day of the week.
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