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Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna

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  • cccompsoncccompson Posts: 2,388
    It's well known that the run-flats on the Sienna AWD have absymal tread life.
  • ctsangctsang Posts: 237
    True. I just replaced my runflats at 19000 miles. My dealer told me I had it better than some who had to replace their at 13000 miles. The fault lies with the tires, not the car or dealer.
  • user777user777 Posts: 3,341
    did your RFT wear symmetrically?
  • 05ody05ody Posts: 103
    I was on http://www.hondacars.com and it has the 2006 Odyssey. No changes from what I can see but it quotes "The Odyssey packs a 244hp engine leading the class" or something along that line. Why the would they put the Odyssey's hp lower?!I am SO confused right now can someone explaine this to me? :confuse: :confuse: :confuse: :confuse:
  • ctalkctalk Posts: 646
    They are using the new SAE rating. A lot of Honda's cars were 'over rated' in power. The Acura TL went from 270 to 258hp. Toyota's cars also had a HP change, the Camry is now at 210 from 225hp.

    http://www.sae.org/certifiedpower/details.htm

    "J1349 was updated last year to eliminate some ambiguities that allowed engine makers to cite power and torque ratings higher than the engine's actual capabilities."

    You might see a drop in HP on a lot of the cars, or maybe even a increase. Some GM cars had an increase in HP.
  • 05ody05ody Posts: 103
    Oh...well then does this mean also that the Sienna is not 230hp? Will my Accord still have the 200hp that I thought it had for the 7 years I owned the car?:confuse: so was every car affected by it? thanks for the info
  • 05ody05ody Posts: 103
    Oh and also does this mean every new Honda car is affected? like the new Accord, Civic, Ridgeline etc...? How did this happen? because I would like to know what horsepower my Odyssey and Accord actually has....and what the Sienna and all the other cars actually have
  • As far as I understand about the new HP rating is that none of the engines were changed in design, rather they now have a standard to test and rate their HP. Manufacturers, after they design and make their own engines, had their own way of testing or rating them to show that the engines are XXXHP. These testing or ratings are now being standardized by SAE. Therefore, now (more than before), we will be able to compare similar models of a different manufacturers with more accuracy.
  • I went and checked out both Odyssey and Sienna last week at local dealerships in Houston. I couldn't help noticing that Sienna appeared to be better built. It was mostly just a feel. But then, I went on to Edmunds.com to run a side-by-side comparison for all the specs etc. There was a section on J.D. Powers and Assoc. Quality rating. Right there, Sienna was rated much higher than Odyssey. As a matter of fact, Odyssey was rated the worst and Sienna the best among five Makes I compared - Odyssey, Chevy Venture, Grand Caravan, Nissan Quest, and Sienna.
    The details were
    Mechanical quality
    Feature and Accessory Quality
    Body and Interior Quality

    Sienna was rated five stars in all categories
    Odyssey was rated 4 stars, 3 stars, and 2 stars respectively in the above 3 categories.

    Any comments to the above would be greatly appreciated. If quality is as bad as JD Powers indicated for Odyssey, I can't understand why Odyssey is a hot buy??
  • ctalkctalk Posts: 646
    I am not sure what the HP rating will be on your Accord (I read your profile you have a 1998 one) But i know the 2006 Accord will have 244 HP V6 engine (it had a HP increase) Probably the Sienna will have its HP numbers changed, because the Camry had it done to. Maybe around 215-225, I am not really sure.

    Well, If Honda lied about its HP ratings on every car, then every car will be effected and same goes with Toyota and other manufacturers.
  • 05ody05ody Posts: 103
    Oh...so I guess so far Honda only tested the Accord V6 and the Odyssey, and Toyota only tested the Camry. I read somewhere about that the camry went from 225hp to 210hp. Well it said the Odyssey still has the most power for a van....so I'm guessin the Quest didnt go up much. Thanks everyone for their help! :)
  • strstr Posts: 64
    I read the same stuff you did and I am under the same impression as you are about the Sienna and Odyssey. I drove both vans and researched both for months and I feel that the Sienna is better built, has a more appealing interior and exterior, and is a lot more plush.

    One thing I did like about the Odyssey is that is has dual sliding doors on the EX-L but not enough to sway me in it's direction when it came time to buy. The dash is cheap looking to me and I think the exterior is outdated.

    To me the extra money spent on the Sienna is worth it, as well as all of the time spent on package shopping, I was not impressed by the Odyssey.
  • heywood1heywood1 Posts: 839
    I had my Dunlop RFT's evaluated by a Dunlop dealer a few weeks ago. He said they look better than most he's seen, but won't last another summer season. I have 30K on this van, and 12K was using my winter tires (Blizzak RFT's, which show almost NO wear). I'm considering conventional replacements. This van rarely leaves my small town, so if I purchase the spare, it will be on board only for long-distance road trips.

    My snows go back on in less than four months, so I'm waiting until spring to see if better RFT options have hit the marketplace before I go conventional....
  • The sienna is better. We drove both the sienna and the odyssey and everyone in the vehicle noticed that the sienna was much more comfortable than the odyssey. The seat quaility was much better in the sienna. Much less road noise also, The road noise in the odyssey reminded me of our 98 windstar or should I say junkstar. Needless to say we bought a new sienna le with the bz package. Now is the right time to buy as toyota is trying to clear the lots to make room for the 06's.
  • mi_satmi_sat Posts: 42
    I have driven SUVs for the past 7 years. Now that I have a newborn, I'd like to buy a minivan.

    I thought I read somewhere that Odyssey does NOT have door locks that lock automatically when you put the car in drive.

    Can you tell me whether either the Sienna or the Odyssey offer auto door locks? I cannot tell from the brochures -- they each state something like "power door locks." To me, that doesn't answer the question.

    Thanks for your input.
  • 05ody05ody Posts: 103
    Oh really. I found that the Sienna's dash design and that shifter looked like the stupidest thing I ever saw. But thats just my opinion. I found the Odyssey's dash to look more classy and more expensive. I also found the Odyssey's seats to be WAY more comfortable expecally on long trips. The Sienna's seats were way too soft. Also the steering on the Sienna sucks, way to lose and doesn't drive like a car whatsoever. And to answer the question above, the Odyssey does not have the auto door locks, and yes the Sienna does.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,362
    You have to lock your own doors by simply hitting the button. If it's a Touring Odyssey you can program the doors to lock automatically.

    This has been discussed in these forums before and auto locking doors is a "feature" a lot of us don't want!
  • ctalkctalk Posts: 646
    Well in general i dont like minivans, but one day i decided to test drive the Odyssey at my Honda dealership (while my accord was in for oil change) and wow is it nice. Very car-like. It felt quite powerful, and luxurious. If i was shopping for the minivan i would most likely buy the Odyssey. I've also test drove the Sienna (when i owned a Corolla), its a great minivan. But I find the Odyssey better (maybe because i prefer a more entertaining drive)
  • strstr Posts: 64
    We just bought a Sienna LE with package #4 and some other stuff and we had the leather upgrade, wood dash and trim, as well as a sunroof added. What is the package BZ? I'm not as familiar with the letters as I am the numbers on the packages.

    I was an unbiased shopper when we started looking at minivans last spring. I was having a really hard time giving up my SUV because we had never had a van and I thought driving a minivan in my 20's was crazy! However, after four months of research and many test drives and testimonials from various minivan drivers we decided on the Sienna over the Odyssey and it all boiled down to quality and style, period.
  • strstr Posts: 64
    You know, we owned a Lincoln Navigator and drove it for four years and my husband just loved it but the gas prices persuaded us not to purchase another large SUV. He is a very picky man when it comes to style and he actually compared the interior of the Sienna to that in our Navigator, he was very impressed and that is not an easy task to accomplish.
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