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Toyota Yaris



  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,618
    You know what and who I am talking about. And if you look back at who brings up Hyundai in this discussion in a new thread, it's not me.

    Are you going to answer my question about your Yaris?
  • bamacarbamacar Posts: 749
    Backy, not the person you were asking the question of, but I bought my Yaris with the Airbag Package and ABS after the IIHS and Consumer Report tests. I would not have bought the Yaris without them. I would have just waited longer to get a Honda Fit.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,618
    How easy was it to get your Yaris (hatch or sedan?) with those options? I mean, did you have some selection on the lot, or did you need to "order" it and wait for it? Also can you tell us what kind of deal you got on your Yaris?

    The Yaris interests me due to its high fuel economy and good crash test results with the side bags/curtains. If availability with ABS and the airbag options is improving, it could slide into my "consider" list for next year. I am also crossing my fingers that for the 2009 MY, due to be a refresh, Toyota will tweak the interior and put in straight-ahead gauges, since they are moving that direction with Scion.
  • PFFlyer@EdmundsPFFlyer@Edmunds Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,808
    Let's get away from this personal beef that's brewing.

    I understand that people get passionate about their vehicles, but there are times when it's best to agree to disagree and move on.


    Moderator - Hatchbacks & Hybrid Vehicles

  • I have a 1986 Buick Gran Sport. My problem is I'm considering selling the car. Buick has said that 1029 were made. In my state 2 were sold, and I am the orginal owner of one of them. The car is in very good condition and stored winters. The only information I have is I've been told the car is "very rare". Can anyone help me in giving me a value.
  • errrrr, might be better to ask this on a Buick board.
  • bamacarbamacar Posts: 749
    It was difficult to find. I needed 4 doors and wanted the factory cruise so I bought the sedan. I also wanted the power package, the airbags, and a manual transmission. As is usually the problem with the unfriendly Toyota machine, there were none of those available in my Southeast Distributor region.

    I kept my eye on Fitzmall as I had a relative who lives reasonably nearby. That Maryland-Virginia region was one of the very few that had a number of Yaris Sedans equipped just as I wanted one. Fitzmall did not have one when I was ready to buy so I went to Koons nearby. They had exactly what I wanted. It stickered at about $15500 and I got it for just over invoice at $14600.

    Fitzmall has a very similar one right now at invoice about $14425.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,618
    Thanks for the details. Good to see you were able to get a good deal. Unfortunately I don't live very close to Fitzmall, and the last time I checked a few weeks ago, I couldn't even "build my own" Yaris hatch with the side bags and ABS, and I could get them both only on the top-line Yaris S sedan (I'm in Toyota's Chicago Region). If I did get a Yaris, I'd prefer the hatch with MT, ABS, side bags/curtains, rear wiper, and a 60/40 split rear seat. I don't really need the power package on a small 2-door with non-functioal rear windows. But I don't know if such a combination exists.
  • Where do I find the Buick board??
  • PFFlyer@EdmundsPFFlyer@Edmunds Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,808
    Use the Browse By Vehicle search tool in the left sidebar. Just choose your make and modle of vehicle and you'll get a list of all relevant discussions.


    Moderator - Hatchbacks & Hybrid Vehicles

  • The 60/40 split rear seat is part of the power package. The only way to get the seat is by ordering the power package.

    The car you described is basically the car that I own (I have fog lights, alloy wheels and a sway bar too). I highly recommend it. The more I drive it (8,000 miles now), the more I appreciate it.

    The Liftback S model that Toyota will offer for 2008 may be up your alley (you would still need to add side airbags and ABS, but those might be more easily found on an S). The new Liftback S gets a tach too.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,618
    Why am I not surprised that the only way to get a 60/40 rear seat, standard on just about every other hatch, is to get a power package? ;)

    The Liftback S might be up my alley except for price. With the power package with steel wheels (cheapest way to get the 60/40 rear seat), ABS, and side curtains the MSRP is $15,475. There's some nicer cars availble for that kind of money or less, even considering a discount on the Yaris.

    The xD would be another option, if I could stomach the looks of it.
  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,028
    Your experience is one comparison, unfortunately the overall numbers don't mirror your experience. Reliability numbers still overwelmingly show Japanese vehicles are more reliable than Korean. The Korean makes are definitely improving, but they're not up to the better Japanese makes yet.
  • ttaittai Posts: 114
    Nevermind the proven reliability of Toyotas. The Yaris is one of those cars that makes you realize the brilliance of the design the more you drive it. The auto tranny for instance has the gated, flick left for passing gear feature instead of the straight up and down lever. I found myself flicking it left and right often because it's just so much fun. The cup holders by the air conditioning vent keeps my drinks cold. BRILLIANT! The passenger seat adjuster is a perfect chinese noodle soup togo holder to prevent spillage. BRILLIANT!!! The glove compartment behind the steering wheel holds a map in place so I can read it while driving. SUPER BRILLIANT!!!!! And there's that peppy engine and gas mileage thing too.
  • TIRED of it? WAAAH..... Better get USED to it! You already admitted you don't even know what I am talking about. I can also see you have no idea what YOU are talking about.....
  • PFFlyer@EdmundsPFFlyer@Edmunds Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,808
    Let's drop the personal back and forth NOW and stick to talking about the vehicles please.


    Moderator - Hatchbacks & Hybrid Vehicles

  • Hey, if you just want a cheapo-strippo, why not get an Aveo?

    Really... is it all about price?

    I'm not sure you could get a "nicer car" that gets the kind of fuel economy that a Yaris (fully loaded, mind you) gets for only $15k and some change.

    You can get a $12K Yaris. But it won't have the options you want. That's the way it is. If you don't like it, get something else.

    You might not like $3-per-gallon gasoline either, but that's reality as well.

    I paid just over $16K for my fully-optioned Liftback.

    Worth every penny, from where I sit.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,618
    No, it's not about price. It's about value.

    You're correct in that there are few cars that get comparable fuel economy to a Yaris. But since I drive only around 7-8k miles a year, I don't need exceptional fuel economy, just good fuel economy. I'd accept just 30 mpg overall (with a lot of city driving) for a car that offers more comfort/room/convenience/features than a Yaris, for the same or less money. Let's face it, the main attractions of the Yaris are fuel economy and low price. (It should be reliable also, but that's not the big differentiator it used to be.) If I have to pay near $15k to get a Yaris that has the bare minimum features I need, then I start looking at alternatives.

    There's several very nice cars available for just over $16k. That's not pennies to me, so before I spend it I'll check out all the options. If you are happy with your Yaris then I am glad for you, it's just the right car for you.
  • Yeah....As I TRIED to explain in the most simple terms originally to help in the search for rattles. Again, simply walk around the front of your Yaris. Take one or two fingers and simply "TAP" along all the different areas of sheet metal. (even that Buick like front door!) Now, as you go, you will hear the cheap, NON-reinforced "metal" buzzing as you tap in certain spots. Especially as you move around the sides near the windshield/dash area. For the record, we now have 1 Yaris liftback, auto trans with NO side airbags, AND a new Hyundai Accent.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,618
    Sheet metal isn't what it used to be, in general. My 2002 MPV has probably the thinnest sheet metal on the front fenders I've ever seen on a car. I'm afraid if I push too hard with my index finger, I'd dent it.

    It's possible the metal on the Yaris is actually pretty strong, if it's formulated to be high-strength steel. Also it's important if it's treated against rust, e.g. galvanized.

    If your Yaris rattled, I'll bet it's not the sheet metal that was rattling as that is welded (except the front fenders?). Probably something else. Lots of little parts in a car that can come loose. And as has been noted, the thinness or thickness of the sheet metal doesn't have much if anything to do with crash worthiness; that's related to the structural design (including crumple zones), the strength of the florrpan and crossmembers, the reinforcements in the doors, airbags etc.
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